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...anyone else?


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 8:17 pm
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All the time. Usually when speaking to my brain the size of a planet friend


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 8:18 pm
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Are you comparing yourself to the STW forumites or the rest of society ?


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 8:20 pm
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Never. Older I get the more I realise I'm surrounded by complete numpties. 😉


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 8:20 pm
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Yep, I think I'm probably of average intelligence or possibly just below. I find it's best to work with spectacularly stupid people to make oneself feel better.


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 8:21 pm
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My younger brother has a brain the size of a house. He's still an idiot.


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 8:22 pm
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Half the population of the planet are below average intelligence.

An amount of these aren't even intelligent enough to understand that they are. (Cf. Dunning-Kruger.)


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 8:24 pm
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I do okay, I'm no fikko.
I enjoy reading New Scientist mag and some of the space/quantum stuff I could read for a decade but I still don't think it would sink in. My brain just can't cope.


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 8:24 pm
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nope


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 8:25 pm
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re you comparing yourself to the STW forumites or the rest of society ?

Everyone. Even at the age of 44 there are younger people that seem to have a vocabulary and ability beyond mine. Sometimes I feel like I have a early teenage brains trapped in a middle aged body.

An amount of these aren't even intelligent enough to understand that they are. (Cf. Dunning-Kruger.)

Say what...?


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 8:25 pm
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you just re-read your winter training plan?


 
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Posted : 05/09/2016 8:28 pm
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An amount of these aren't even intelligent enough to understand that they are. (Cf. Dunning-Kruger.)

They're the worst ones. It's good to knows your limits. I've met too many people that don't realise how daft they are. Kind of uplifting yet saddening to watch them keep trying to attain something that's way beyond them.


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 8:28 pm
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i had a pretty bad education, no exams were sat. i was a fool.
but i have done pretty good. can talk well to folk on all levels, never feel intimidated by people more educated.
i have found in life people with loads of letters after theit names, dont have much common sense.


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 8:31 pm
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Say what...?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

"The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which low-ability individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability as much higher than it really is. Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of those of low ability to recognize their ineptitude and evaluate their ability accurately. Their research also suggests corollaries: high-ability individuals may underestimate their relative competence and may erroneously assume that tasks which are easy for them are also easy for others"


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 8:34 pm
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I'm unbelievably stupid yet I have an IQ of 147.


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 8:35 pm
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yep, it's not a happy realisation either


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 8:36 pm
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Is there an opposing condition cougar? (I live in hope)


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 8:36 pm
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I'm intelligent enough to know that I'm as thick as mince.


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 8:39 pm
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I presume you mean you're not [b][i]very[/i] [/b]intelligent as opposed to just intelligent?


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 8:41 pm
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At least the bike racing is going well....


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 8:42 pm
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I work in a prison, you wouldn't believe the thickness of some people in there. Staff included. I don't necceserally mean unintelligent, just thickness.
Wev'e got one prisoner who asked if I could get him some jeans for his upcoming visit, I asked him what size, he shrugged his shoulders & said '40'. I said 'are you sure? He shrugged again & said 'dunno, I don't wear jeans do I? So I said 'do you think I should know what size you are then? Again he shrugged & said, how the **** do I know'

Now that's thick!


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 8:46 pm
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We're probably operating on quite a narrow definition of intelligence here i.e. academic intelligence.


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 8:53 pm
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It's all about the bell chart innit
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Posted : 05/09/2016 8:59 pm
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Even at the age of 44 there are younger people that seem to have a vocabulary and ability beyond mine

Don't worry Kryton, a lot of people are intimidated by my awesomeness. 😀


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 9:04 pm
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That charts confusing Dez. Do you have any glove puppets and / or Fuzzy Felts instead?


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 9:05 pm
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Thought I was doing okay with my degree. Got good mates with a guy via the uni sports club who did his degree, then did mine in a year basically 'just for a laugh'. Knew then there were always going to be much cleverer people out there...


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 9:08 pm
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Yes, do you have a chart to explain the chart? 😳

Njee your awesomeness went down 2437% when you told me who you worked for. Still leaves several thousand per cent though 😉


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 9:08 pm
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I am fairly good at quizzes etc but that's not really intelligence. Just a facility for recalling things that you've soaked up at some point.

But if there's one place that makes me feel like an intellectual dwarf, it's the STW forum. A hive mind the size of a termite mound.

No matter what field of human endeavour is being discussed, there's a seriously impressive level of expertise and insight demonstrated in here.

Then you watch a few vox pops on the BBC's day of programming about Brexit Britain and it shows you just how contagious and ubiquitous stupidity is.


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 9:14 pm
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high-ability individuals may underestimate their relative competence and may erroneously assume that tasks which are easy for them are also easy for others

This was me at a young age until I figured out in my teens what was what. I could coast along with minimum effort and blend in with others who had to work hard for the same results. I am extremely lazy and have no motivation or desire to explore what I am capable of achieving. Feel guilty really. I keep it a secret as I fear that if others found out, they'd expect more from me.


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 9:17 pm
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That charts confusing Dez. Do you have any glove puppets and / or Fuzzy Felts instead?

All you need to know is you're in the -(minus) bit 😀


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 9:18 pm
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I don't think I'm that smart, but I'm fast, and that fools people.


 
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+1 StefMcDef

I'm not sure why the OP thinks that he is a bit thick, I seem to remember reading some good posts from him. It's funny to take the piss out of STW, but generally, there are some really informed people here that keep the place challenging and a good laugh.

Intelligence is a bit of a hard one to judge, there are some people that are very studious and very good at recalling facts and/or processing those facts into a logical argument. On the other hand, I've met some people who seemed a little out there with their disorganisation and were unable to form a coherent argument if asked to write an essay - yet they were brilliant at maths and stringing loosely connected subjects together.


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 9:23 pm
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IQ, EQ or PQ?


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 9:29 pm
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All you need to know is you're in the -(minus) bit

Sweet! That's a good thing, right? 🙂


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 9:29 pm
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Half the population of the planet are below average intelligence

Forgot that: almost everyone has more than the average number of legs!

No really! Having three legs: vanishingly rare. Having one leg, or heaven forbid no legs, far more common.
Thus, average number of legs slightly less than two.

Counting one's own legs and comparing to this average is left as an exercise for the reader.


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 9:31 pm
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Is there an opposing condition cougar? (I live in hope)

How about [url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impostor_syndrome ]this[/url]?


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 9:31 pm
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I don't think I'm that smart, but I'm fast, and that fools people.

I am honestly the polar opposite. Can't react fast in meetings, negotiations or social environments, I need to go away and come back with a response. i tend to sit quietly in a crowd. I have been known to accidentally open my gob and something funny spills out, but those are rare occasions and it even surprises me.


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 9:31 pm
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You're not missing much - I suspect life could be much easier being more normal...


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 9:39 pm
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I found computer programming works exceptionally well at showing you how intelligent you may or may not be. In some cases it might take minutes but in others it can take years.


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 9:43 pm
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I'm much better off starting out with the proposition that I'm an idiot. Then, on the vanishingly rare occasions I come out with something that might be mistaken as being intelligent I can appreciate it all the more.


 
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I found computer programming works exceptionally well at showing you how intelligent you may or may not be. In some cases it might take minutes but in others it can take years.

Can you explain why computer programming takes such a variable time to demonstrate intelligence level?

(Or, why do you think that programming is an adequate indicator of intelligence?)


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 10:07 pm
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Can you explain why computer programming takes such a variable time to demonstrate intelligence level?

When I mentioned it I was assuming thick people would give up in 5 minutes and intelligent people would stick at it. Of course a desire to learn programming isn't mutally exclusive to either group.

It took me years of programming (as an aspiring hobbyist) before I got to the point where my intelligence was a real hinderance and to get past that would require more time & commitment & sacrafice than I could possibly give.

It might have been possible if I didn't need to work and could forget about family and friends.


 
Posted : 05/09/2016 10:24 pm
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I was among a handful of my year who read Land Economy at Cambridge.

We were the ones that make it look like someone left the back doors open on the Variety Club Sunshine Bus and all the contents snuck into a Mensa Conference.

You know your intellectual limitations when you spend three years surrounded by thousands of smart arses.


 
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