[Closed] Rangers Football Club going into administration

athgray - Member

undignified comments from prominent people within Scottish football lack grace and class and leave a sour taste in the mouth.
These self centered, parochial opinions do nothing to help sort the problems endemic in Scottish football, which few people could deny is currently on it's knees.
Some of these jokers should learn from people like John Greig!!

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A recent statement from Celtic CE Peter Lawell appeared to mirror these sentiments. I haven't seriously followed Scottish football for a few years, but can understand ordinary fans having a laugh at another clubs expense, however undignified comments from prominent people within Scottish football lack grace and class and leave a sour taste in the mouth

I suppose Lawell has to speak on behalf of Celtic plc- he can't really say that rangers demise will be bad for celtic (plc). In a couple of days/weeks/months when celtic plc shares start to fall Mr lawell will change his tune.

& FFS Same old tit for tat bs from Stefmacdef. maybe scotland will be better off without the OF

A guy I used to know broke John Greig's son's arm when they were at promary school. John Greig came round to his dad's house to sorth things out. My mate was was a big hun fan and didn't know whether to be ecited that John Greig was at his house or terrified.
So he weed himself

Oops! I have to hold my hands up on that one. I still think the point is valid though.

maybe scotland will be better off without the OF

Scotland would be better off without football full stop.

agree on the point about class and dignity though athgray.

Scotland would be better off without football full stop.

No football in Scotland?!

Football is a creative outlet, don't you know.

Seriously, I doubt that today's generation of football administrators have much to learn from an old guard mired in attitudes that are part of the problem.

Whatever shape Rangers take post-administration will offer them and the game as a whole the chance to shed some of the unwanted baggage and bad practice of the past. If it transpires that clubs like Celtic or Aberdeen find they do "need" Rangers for the game as a whole to thrive, the realisation that this is the case may take some of the venom out of these rivalries in future.

Could be a chance for Scottish football to cast itself anew. In the absence of Sky skewing kick-off times around Old Firm awaydays, "diddy" teams believing they're in with a more realistic shout for honours, more 3pm Saturday kick-offs, standing areas, leading to increased attendances, potentially a more competitive league, assuming Celtic cut their cloth accordingly, as they have tended to do in recent years.

do you really think that attendances will increase? St Johnstone V St Mirren on a November afternoon is not going to be a glamour game all of a sudden. The folk that stay away from these games, stay away for a reason. With or without the OF, they will still stay away. The loss of rangers 'glory hunters' is a loss of revenue going into the game- that may never be returned.

4 teams in the SPL have been in administration, how many are on the brink or will go into it?

Has everyone forgotten that the SPL is looking for a new sponsor from 2013 after the Clydesdale pull out?

lobby_dosser - Member

do you really think that attendances will increase? St Johnstone V St Mirren on a November afternoon is not going to be a glamour game all of a sudden. The folk that stay away from these games, stay away for a reason. With or without the OF, they will still stay away. The loss of rangers 'glory hunters' is a loss of revenue going into the game- that may never be returned.

4 teams in the SPL have been in administration, how many are on the brink or will go into it?

Has everyone forgotten that the SPL is looking for a new sponsor from 2013 after the Clydesdale pull out?

Folk stay away because Sky, in return for a relative pittance, provide the easy alternative of watching the game in the house or in the pub, and dick about with kick-off times to fit them in round when the English games are being played. And because they don't want to go along and watch their team in the pessimistic expectation of getting ritually humped eight times a season.

Here's a thought-provoking, opposing view:

[url= http://wingsland.podgamer.com/why-scotland-doesnt-need-rangers/ ] Wee team perspective on why Scotland doesn't need Rangers[/url]

I can't wait for the day it happens to Manchester United 🙂

I cant beleive some Rangers fans are calling for Murray to return! This is the man who openly laughed at Celtic and every other team in Scotland whilst winning titles and cups with players he realisticaly couldnt afford and was avoiding the tax on their wages. Murray made his now infamous "Tenner for a fiver" boast in 2000,was knighted in 2007 and all the while was defrauding Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs. Why is he not being dragged into court?
As for Lawell he should speak in a slightly more dignified fashion, this business will, despite what some think harm every SPL club in some way.
I have sympathy with the less glamorous employees at Rangers as jobs will no doubt be lost but no-one needs to look further than the gates of Ibrox to point the finger of blame.

The blame for this has to rest squarely at Murray's door. Why else would someone sell a football club for a quid if it wasnt about to go belly up....

Here's a thought-provoking, opposing view:

Wee team perspective on why Scotland doesn't need Rangers

interesting but i think his optimism is misplaced. Scottish football has been in decline over the past ten years, losing one of the biggest is not going to make all the other teams better all of a sudden or raise the standard of the football.

Have to admit I thought Lawell's statement about Salmond was pretty transparent as well. He should be a politician lol!

P.S. anyone remember how much it cost, roughly to go and watch the Premier League in 1985 and how that compares to nowadays?

Have found that approx. average salary in 1985 in the UK was around £9k. Figure for 2011 is around £25k. Would be interesting to see how the cost of going to a game has risen by way of comparison.

Last SPL game I went to was in Autumn 2000 to Love Street and it was £15 to pay in. Am I right in thinking away fans pay around 27 quid to get into Celtic Park these days?

Oh, the St Mirren fans seemed to take great delight in singing derogatory songs about both sides of the Old Firm (and Morton, lol!)

I went with a mate for the banter - St Mirren were just back up in the SPL that year and he bought a season ticket. I'm an Aberdeen fan but went along for the banter and the swally 🙂 Happy days - expensive! - but happy! Love Street was a great wee ground. Imagine the new ground has about as much character as all these other new stadiums which look the same.

Broadwood being a case in point - that must be the coldest place outside the Arctic Circle 😮