I remember the miners getting beat up by police on tv when I was kid and the Falklands.
Torys represent the rich. Why would working class people vote for them? Duh.
Middle and upper class should vote for them to keep the working class in check lol.
I have had the pleasure of the Met police kicking the shit out of me..... smashing bunch of lads
I honestly think the worst of the Tories aren't in the S/E or city Oiks necessarily, but the Shires. I lived for a bit on the Northants/Oxon border in Brackley, and our MP was at the time (and still is ) Andrea Leadsom. Which speaks volumes of the sort of person they admire and aspire to be like. It's an obnoxious combination of white entitlement, fear of immigration, (although it's barely visible), and a holier than thou attitude to any folk with ideas "above their station" although there was a troop of them that would churn through the town and parish council, snouts in trough of land sales for developments, road building contracts and cleaning and catering opportunities. (One Tory councillor managed to have the street lights on all night in her street despite the fact that alternate lamppost switch-off, and no lighting at all post 3am was routine for everywhere else in town) they're obsessed with Land, hunting, and nibyism, the "young of today" layabouts and the un-deserving poor....truly selfishly vile people
After our local police station was shut down due to austerity cuts, the local Tory councillor bought the land it was on at a bargain basement price.
That, in a nutshell, sums up the Tory party to me
Public interest? **** that! I can make a tidy little packet for myself here
If you are born in a inner city sink estate its highly likely the school you go has worse teachers
"Less wonderful", please 😁
Its worse than that molgrips. Even with equal ability your chances are lower
Oh I know, I was keeping it simple and pointing out just one aspect of the problem. One that I believe is harder to argue against. We aren't all born clever and resourceful.
Sorry AA - typo. Less wonderful teachers
After our local police station was shut down due to austerity cuts, the local Tory councillor bought the land it was on at a bargain basement price.
There is a police station in my town of 50000 people, however, you cannot walk in without an appointment, The nearest police station you can walk in to see someone is 20miles away, through 6 towns & villages...
Recently I've also heard that you won't be able to hand lost property into the police anymore unless it's sensitive. It'll be going to a private company. So no doubt you'll either have to pay to leave it with them or pay for them to check & pay to have it recovered.
Am i the only person old enough to remember the Labour years of 3 day weeks,rubbish uncollected.power cuts and the debacle of the British motor industry. Labour should also shoulder some responsibility for the collapse of the banks due to there toadying around big business and the light touch of regulation.
What we should be asking is does the present system of government actually work and does it need a major overhaul. Perhaps the next referendum should be on the future of the House of Lords.Our tax system is arcaic,too complicated and unfair.Its basically the wealthier you are the less tax you pay in proportion. Neither major party has been prepared to " ruffle feathers " and address this.
Both major parties are quite happy with this arrangement as it gives very little opportunity to smaller parties or independants.They just have to sit back,wait a few years,and they know they'll be back in power.
Voting for either party will not change things dramatically if this 2 party stranglehold continues.
Both major parties are quite happy with the system we presently have
^^^^^Exactly. We have got to demand changes from our politicians and the political system as a whole and accept nothing less.
Easier said than done of course.
Exactly. We have got to demand changes from our politicians and the political system as a whole and accept nothing less.
Agree with this. I was at a senior national Local Authority event and a well known Chief Exec prefaced his speech with "im going to say something contraversial". He went to explain that whilst the Government has alledgedly no more money to give to local goverment, in fact local government should stop whining about budget cuts and stand up to Ministers and get in thier face about demanding change to support the public.
We of course should do the same. Im not exactly sure how though...
Labour should also shoulder some responsibility for the collapse of the banks due to there toadying around big business and the light touch of regulation.
I believe current Labour does recognise that.
What we should be asking is does the present system of government actually work
No.
and does it need a major overhaul
Yes
Voting for either party will not change things dramatically if this 2 party stranglehold continues.
Revolution it is then comrades.
I'm in!
The truth is we probably need a revolution.... trouble is the most popular cause got 51% of the vote.
What we need is less of a circle jerk.
Maybe if the miners hadn't been so foolish as to back the quite impossible demands of the unions then Prime Minister Thatcher wouldn't have been forced to act so robustly.
German wages are higher than ours. taxes are much higher
Of course we can easily afford high quality public services. We just have to have fair taxation of individuals and companies. Start with the big tax dodgers like starbucks and Amazon. Very simple to do. tax on turnover not profits as all they do is export all the profits. Easy to identify the companies that do this. Then start on all the tax loopholes for individuals including the reduction in NI for the high earners and tax free dividends.
As Corbyn says – he knows where the magic money tree is — offshore in tax havens
Well, having actually lived in Germany. Taxes are not higher ... they factor in health insurance as part of what the "refer" to tax.
German wages are higher - but you pat for health insurance. And 10 Euro every time you go to a medic . pharmacy , days in hospital ....
There unemployment and pension benefit are somewhat less generous that the UK .
Germany also has Amazon, Starbucks and Amazon ... our didn't you know that. Jean Claude Juncker set up the take haven in Luxembourg Europe wide for them ...
Jeremy is wrong ... there is no magic money tree, It just the tax payer ...
German wages are higher than ours. taxes are much higher
Of course we can easily afford high quality public services. We just have to have fair taxation of individuals and companies. Start with the big tax dodgers like starbucks and Amazon. Very simple to do. tax on turnover not profits as all they do is export all the profits. Easy to identify the companies that do this. Then start on all the tax loopholes for individuals including the reduction in NI for the high earners and tax free dividends.
As Corbyn says – he knows where the magic money tree is — offshore in tax havens
Well, having actually lived in Germany. Taxes are not higher ... they factor in health insurance as part of what the "refer" to tax.
German wages are higher - but you pay for health insurance. And 10 Euro every time you go to a medic . pharmacy , days in hospital .... Tax is about between 30 -50% ... just like most of Europe ...
Their unemployment and pension benefit are somewhat less generous that the UK .
Germany also has Amazon, Starbucks and Amazon ... our didn't you know that. Jean Claude Juncker set up the take haven in Luxembourg Europe wide for them ...
Jeremy is wrong ... there is no magic money tree, It just the tax payer ...
German wages are higher than ours. taxes are much higher
Of course we can easily afford high quality public services. We just have to have fair taxation of individuals and companies. Start with the big tax dodgers like starbucks and Amazon. Very simple to do. tax on turnover not profits as all they do is export all the profits. Easy to identify the companies that do this. Then start on all the tax loopholes for individuals including the reduction in NI for the high earners and tax free dividends.
As Corbyn says – he knows where the magic money tree is — offshore in tax havens
Well, having actually lived in Germany. Taxes are not higher ... they factor in health insurance as part of what the "refer" to tax.
German wages are higher - but you pay for health insurance. And 10 Euro every time you go to a medic . pharmacy , days in hospital .... Tax is about between 30 -50% ... just like most of Europe ...
Their unemployment and pension benefit are somewhat less generous that the UK .
Germany also has Amazon, Starbucks and Amazon ... or didn't you know that. Jean Claude Juncker set up the take haven in Luxembourg Europe wide for them ...
Jeremy is wrong ... there is no magic money tree, It just the tax payer ...
Middle of the road moderate and sensible policy ideas aren't sexy enough to win swing voters in decent numbers, so both parties seem hell bent on going full throttle into trying their best to get their nutcases on the fringes sufficiently frothy that they'll be unable to contain themselves on polling day.
I still maintain any constituency that can't get a 50% turnout and a clear majority should have it's MP chosen at random from the electoral roll. It has to be better than suffering to appease party followers
Maybe if the miners hadn’t been so foolish as to back the quite impossible demands of the unions then Prime Minister Thatcher wouldn’t have been forced to act so robustly.
She wanted revenge.
