Me too glad you feel the same way about ukip 🙂
All this talk of immigration you would think it was Nick Griffin on QT again. UKIP are an anti-EU party and focussing on one issue that Farage will have a million prepared answers to was always going to be a win for UKIP.
No disrespect to Brand but his "fings are wrong" attitude was never going to be the answer to Farage, Ken Clarke would have ripped him to bits.
I despair at how so many people leap to Farage and UKIP's defense and seem to do so with a straight face.
This is long, slightly off topic and US-centric but is still worth a watch-
Hmm, he travelled, got home, wrote that blog... and still hasn't managed to come up with a credible answer to the blokes question of 'why don't you stand for parliament then?'He needs to, because his pre-prepared witty 'afraid I'd become one of them' answer really did fall flat on its arse, and the question isn't going to go away now, it's going to be asked again and again.
Why is it even a sensible question?
It's exactly like me asking you how you can sit there and criticise him without having the balls to become a stand-up comedian, actor, political activist and sexaholic yourself.
Unless you've already got a credible answer to that?
Exactly- it's a good trick, it's very hard to rationally respond to an irrational question. Oi, Russell Brand, why don't you sharkticon? What does that even mean? Dur, fanny, won't even answer a simple question.
like Russell said, 'give us something worth voting for' and he obviously 'at this moment in time' doesn't thing it him! and I for one Don't blame him, and there's nowt wrong with voicing an opinion is there??? plenty on here do it all the time and They don't run for govt do they.
Agree that it's a stupid question and not really worth a response. You can do a great deal of good or bad without standing for parliament. Ultimately, if he didn't want to join a party and stood as independent how much influence would he actually have if he got in?
"give us something worth voting for" ??? How about getting rid of Cameron or ensuring that UKIP don't win any more seats.
fasternotfatter - Member"give us something worth voting for" ??? How about getting rid of Cameron or ensuring that UKIP don't win any more seats.
"we're not that guy" isn't much of a rallying cry.
UKIP survey for members, to decide policy.....presumably who they should gas first.
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I think it's pretty obvious from last night, brand choose to bite his tongue rather than generate headlines. People can interpret that as being out of his depth, I wouldn't.
Abso-flippin-lutely spot on. He was the only person to get jumped on for talking over, but a long way from the only person who did it. And he stopped when asked, fair one.
Isn't brand all about creating headlines?
Does that matter, if they're the right ones?
Not if you are a Red Top editor or DG of the BBC, no.
Makes no difference otherwise as it's mainly mindless twaddle.
Bit his tongue?
He wasn't afraid to let his tongue run free up until the point the audience turned on him (and it was far from just the Kipper who was incredulous at the 'I'm afraid I'd become one of them' answer)
After that he pretty much just sat there sulking
Personally I like how he's all for redistribution of wealth... I'd love to find out what Russell's tax arrangements are, do you reckon he pays full UK tax on his income and investments?
I don't think it was so much Brand's refusal to stand as an MP, but his incredibly weak answer of "I don't want to become one of them.." said with an even weaker lame tone that annoys.
Edit: I don't think he bit his tongue one bit - he was just out of his depth, had the intelligence to realise it & decide that the best course of action was to say nothing.
Whats that old saying about "Opening ones mouth & removing all doubt..."
You don't have to agree with everything someone says, or did I miss that law being introduced?
I'm not an anarchist but I'd agree with the broad thrust of Brand's analysis - just not the solution.
Out of his depth with that mob? I don't think so.
Having finally got round to watching the full program today I really don't know where the haters are coming from. From the start Brand was more reserved then usual and only got animated on issues he seemed to have a handle on. What's wrong with not piping up if you have nothing to say on a subject?
As for the Kipper who allegedly took Brand down, he couldn't even get his facts straight. When Brand mentioned disabled people being hit he was talking about the current government, not Farage. If Brand was quieter later in the debate (although he still contributed as much as the others) I'd say it had more to do with what the Labour lady said then the idiot in the audience.
Very important points made around 35:15, check out Dimbleby's body language and hand gesture, before swiftly shutting it down and moving on:
did you get my email JHJ???
Indeed I did sir... I have just replied 😉
JHJ, the drivel that came after that point was more noteworthy IMO.
She was hardly shut down and made her point, most of when was valid, well. He decided to move on to another question. He does that the whole time.
Going by your replies, would it be right to assume you are connected to the financial industry teamhurtmore?
If so are the folks in Hurtmore Hall worried about Mansion Tax? 😀
jivejohhny - Osbourne has killed the mansion tax with his revamp of stamp duty.
chestrockwell - Brand was off balance from the moment the two women on the panel put him down for continually speaking over them. He got in a couple of the one liners he'd prepared but it was an old fashion whooping as they'd say in the US
If so are the folks in Hurtmore Hall worried about Mansion Tax?
No but it is a stupid idea that is unworkable in practice. What do you expect from the Uncle?
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jambalaya - Member
jivejohhny - Osbourne has killed the mansion tax with his revamp of stamp duty.chestrockwell - Brand was off balance from the moment the two women on the panel put him down for continually speaking over them. He got in a couple of the one liners he'd prepared but it was an old fashion whooping as they'd say in the US
We quite clearly watched a different program.
We quite clearly watched a different program.
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we must have, because the only one on that panel that I saw 'in trouble' was Farage!
I personally would love the Uk to come out of the EU but I still wouldn't vote for them purple tie wearing tories.
and I actually really enjoyed the way Farage used to rip the EU a 'New'un' in his speeches back in the day, still no vote from me ... saving That one for owd Russ when he 'decides' its time 😉
