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Just in case anyone was in any doubt - I figure STW people will be more likely than the general population to require the services of A&E - your local hospital will be open for emergency and urgent care as usual tomorrow. Senior doctors drafted in from elsewhere will be there to do the jobs of the striking juniors.
*unless you mean Chorley A&E, in which case it won't, because of a staffing crisis.
In fact you won't get some knackered 30 year old in the middle of a 72 hour shift, you'll get a well rested 50 year old who's at the top of their game.
If you're planning an accident it might make some sense to have it in the next day or two.
[quote=wwaswas ]If you're planning an accident it might make some sense to have it in [s]the next day or two[/s] Scotland.
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wwaswas ยป If you're planning an accident it might make some sense to have it in the next day or two Scotland.
Jesus, don't do that. Have you any idea how long it takes to get to the nearest neurosurgical centre if you bump your head in the outer hebrides?
Mrs has the hoka fling this weekend. We're not doing anything that might invoke a trip to A&E this week...
don't you lot bloody DARE turn up at A&E unless drac has given permission ๐
and as WW said, if you do turn up, you'll probably get a consultant sorting you out (or telling you you're a malingering arse who needs to person up a bit)
*unless you mean Chorley A&E, in which case it won't, because of a staffing crisis.
Ah, I best be careful then ๐
you'll get a well rested 50 year old who's at the top of their game.
Sorry all the consultants I know are permanently knackered too.
OP what a strange thread to put up. Surely you can't be planning whether you are going to visit A&E?
Surely you can't be planning whether you 0are going to visit A&E?
Not planning, but just in case you (or a loved one, or a person who you've just found unconscious on the street) needs it) just be aware that it's still there, still open, still doing life-savingy things. There have been a few stories recently about people delaying going to hospital at the weekend despite being very ill because of what they've heard in the news about staffing during weekends (apparently some people think that doctors don't work weekends) and it would be bad if anything similar were to happen during the current strikes.
My little corner of the NHS isn't just running as normal; we've got extra medical staff on tomorrow & Wed.
My little corner of the NHS isn't just running as normal; we've got extra medical staff on tomorrow & Wed.
Show off.
FunkyDunc - MemberOP what a strange thread to put up. Surely you can't be planning whether you are going to visit A&E?
In the same way that Jeremy Hunt has seriously harmed patients by convincing them not to go to hospital at the weekend, causing completely avoidable delays and complications, similiarly people have been convinced that the strike means hospitals will be shut. The agenda is to convince people that the strike is dangerous and irresponsible, when ironically it's politicians that are dangerous and irresponsible.
So yes- worthwhile thread IMO.
OP what a strange thread to put up.
I thought the same thing, maybe he thought people with a broken bone or any other injury that would usually involve going straight to A&E would think "maybe I'll leave it a day or two" ๐
MarkBrewer - MemberI thought the same thing, maybe he thought people with a broken bone or any other injury that would usually involve going straight to A&E would think "maybe I'll leave it a day or two"
http://www.bmj.com/content/351/bmj.h4596/rr-52
OP what a strange thread to put up.
Not strange at all imo. S/he is obviously attempting to counter the scare tactics being used by Hunt and his friends in the press.
This strike is as much about those who use the NHS as those who work within it.
*unless you mean Chorley A&E, in which case it won't, because of a staffing crisis.
It's actually still open and will be fine for breaks and sprains but dont turn up if you might die if you don't get treatment.
I thought the same thing, maybe he thought people with a broken bone or any other injury that would usually involve going straight to A&E would think "maybe I'll leave it a day or two"
There have been numerous stories about people doing just this over the weekend, because they somehow got the idea that there were no doctors in the hospitals at the weekend. Part of that is because, well, they're misinformed, but sometimes it's also because it can be difficult to know what's A&E-worthy, so they think "I'll leave it." A broken bone is (usually) obvious, but a bad pneumonia or a kidney infection can be less obvious. Anything that makes people less likely to go to A&E in a genuine emergency is a bad thing.
It's actually still open and will be fine for breaks and sprains but dont turn up if you might die if you don't get treatment.
Fair enough. It's now minor injuries rather than A&E, is that right?
Basically its a minor accident dept not an A & E
Apparently waiting times have massively improved ๐
ED for a kidney infection, really?kidney infection
ED for a kidney infection, really?
Yarp. Untreated pyelonephritis (as opposed to a simple urine infection, which is lower down, i.e. in the bladder) can jigger your kidney(s) and/or kill surprisingly quickly.
Opusone - if you have a kidney infection sometimes getting anywhere is a severe test of MTFU. I speak from bitter experience.
(First time around, death would have been my preference!)
Hang on a minute. I thought people would be bleeding to death in the streets? Have I been misled by nice Mr Hunt?
I thought people would be bleeding to death in the streets?
Well they might, but that's because the ambulance service is struggling as much as the rest of the NHS at the moment rather than the JD strike.
According to our local radio station the other day all emergency departments will be closed and the ambulance service have been advised to set up treatment centres. ๐
According to our local radio station the other day all emergency departments will be closed and the ambulance service have been advised to set up treatment centres
I'm no an expert in emoticons... are you joking?
Well the TV & radio vehicles are the only thing causing chaos at the entrance of this hospital atm.
I'm no an expert in emoticons... are you joking?
Nope that's what they claimed.
If you're planning an accident it might make some sense to have it in the next day or two Scotland.
It's not like emergency care in Scotland is without it's issues though, there is still a review going on regarding Major Trauma Centers, with the possibility of their being nothing outside of the central belt ๐
I'm not worried, as we all know - Nurses do all the work anyway ๐
According to our local radio station the other day all emergency departments will be closed and the ambulance service have been advised to set up treatment centres
Yep heard that, probably just reading a press release from the Tories.
My wife asked if it was true. Things got a bit sweary.
From BBC news:
NHS England said "military level" contingency planning had been carried out to protect urgent and emergency care.
Steps taken include:
The postponement of nearly 13,000 routine operations and more than 100,000 appointments to free up staff
The cancellation of holidays and study leave
Redeployment of consultants, middle-grade doctors and nurses into emergency care
More GP appointments being kept free for last-minute requests
An increase in 111 staff rostered on to allow the phone service to handle more calls
As well as:
Hospitals can request that junior doctors return to work if needed, but as yet no NHS trust has raised the alarm.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-36134103
An increase in 111 staff rostered on to allow the phone service to handle more calls
And that is supposed to help? All they do is say go to A&E for the most minor things imaginable.
The postponement of nearly 13,000 routine operations and more than 100,000 appointments to free up staff
The cancellation of holidays and study leave
Redeployment of consultants, middle-grade doctors and nurses into emergency care
That's one step.
An increase in 111 staff rostered on to allow the phone service to handle more calls
Hahaha! You can't increase something if there's nothing to add to it.
According to our local radio station the other day all emergency departments will be closed and the ambulance service have been advised to set up treatment centres
Can I ask which radio station that was? That's potentially dangerous misinformation imo.