[Closed] Proud To Be British Day

Why don't we just give the Crown Estates back to the Royal Family and take them off the Civil list, so everyone on here can stop moaning about them and how much they cost?

They wouldn't mind, the Crown Estates pull in more than the Civil List costs.

Why don't we just give the Crown Estates back to the Royal Family and take them off the Civil list, so everyone on here can stop moaning about them and how much they cost?

And where did the crown estates come from? it wouldn't be the result of murder, blackmail, marriage etc. now would it? Usual case of money leads to more money.

murder, blackmail, marriage

The three most heinous of crimes. Especially that last one *shudders*

And where did the crown estates come from? it wouldn't be the result of murder, blackmail, marriage etc. now would it?

Well the Crown Estates originate from William the Conqueror, and to be fair the bloke done the English a big favour. Prior to him sorting things out for them, the English had been a bunch of warring factions, who were being constantly invaded, only semi-civilised, and generally in a pretty confused state ever since the Romans had left.

The deal was that he sorted the mess out for them and introduced a bit of law and order - letting him establish Crown Estates was a small price to pay.

So we make a profit from their old property as we only give them some of the revenue that comes in from them, we make money from the tourism that they attract, and most of us have a good time at the various celebrations of their reign that occur?

What are the benefits of getting rid of them again?

What are the benefits of getting rid of them again?

we've been through this already... compulsory nudity and eating contests.. or was that if we keep them..?

we make money from the tourism that they attract

Out of a global total of 940 million tourists, the top ten international tourism destinations in 2010 were :

International tourist arrivals
1 France 76.80 million
2 United States 60.88 million
3 China 55.67 million
4 Spain 52.68 million
5 Italy 43.63 million
6 United Kingdom 28.13 million
7 Turkey 27.00 million
8 Germany 26.88 million
9 Malaysia 24.58 million
10 Mexico 22.40 million

You'll note that a few countries which are republics manage to attract more tourists than the UK, in the case of France it's well over twice as many tourists. I think you've just made the case for wheeling out the guillotine. If we want to bring 'tourism' into the argument of course.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Tourism_rankings#cite_note-unwtohi2011-2

EDIT : I've just realised that France has more foreigners visiting in one year than it has population 😯

i believe that 5million go to Versailles each year? and Buckingham palace 400,000ish. Sounds like a good reason to get rid of the monarchy?

That's because you can walk around Versailles. In the case of Buckingham Palace there's a family living there who won't move out.

Bloody inconsiderate if you ask me.

Just think how many tourists the giant catapult that fired the queen into the Thames would bring in.

In fact if each member of the firm were executed in unusual ways at different locations around the country, the benefits of tourism could be spread amongst the whole nation.

The general public are far too apathetic to revolt, they are far more concerned with fake tan, white teeth, tattoos and cheap booze.
I have no interest in the royals, though I do wish they'd finance themselves.

I have no interest in the royals, though I do wish they'd finance themselves.

give 'em back their properties and they could, we would stop making on the deal though.

TurnerGuy - Member

give 'em back[b] their[/b] properties and they could, we would stop making on the deal though.

their properties

One could go back in history and say that about a great many people worldwide. 99% of the USA for example. I'll let you tell them.

One could go back in history and say that about a great many people worldwide. 99% of the USA for example. I'll let you tell them.

yep, which is one of the reasons why you have so many wars going on in the world now. Or why there are court cases in NZ and Australia over stolen land.

Funny, I don't recall any such cases here in England from those wanting their land back?

Zero interested this country don't give Two shits for its own people
this country is more known has BB Benefit Britain and now full of xxxx
every where
More of a shit hole than anything else

Which country are you in grantway?

Tucker I am in East London
All we have every night is pissed Polish, Lithuanians, Russian and Romanian Gypsies
constantly pissed causing damage to cars and vans and properties constantly being broken into
When out walking the dog in the mornings I'm constantly faced with pissed migrants sleeping in the Two parks near my Central Park & Brampton park and the Police do Bolls all

and this **** calls it social drinking

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What makes me die is that an old councillor sent the Town hall a picture of all the bottles
he had found in one day and they sent him a letter more saying they would act against him ?

Just hope this country goes bankrupt to get rid of the shit and somehow start again.

Eastlondon South africa?

Tucker I am in East London

I feel your pain mate - it's full of trendy posh types. I was there one day last year and was quite horrified.

Come to South London, it's brilliant - all multicultural and multi-ethnic, with proper down to earth people.

You'll note that a few countries which are republics manage to attract more tourists than the UK, in the case of France it's well over twice as many tourists.

Well it's twice as big and besides, they eat lots of Garlic- you must be able to smell that across the Pacific...... 😆

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You'll note that a few countries which are republics manage to attract more tourists than the UK, in the case of France it's well over twice as many tourists.

Apparently the weekend celebrations were very popular in France too!

Ooh I've just seen your edited post grantway, which you edited after I posted mine. No please don't come to South London - we don't need bigots like you stirring the shit in our ace multicultural and multi-ethnic communities. Keep your hatred to yourself.

you'll note that a few countries which are republics manage to attract more tourists than the UK, in the case of France it's well over twice as many tourists.

Hmmmmm - do you think natural resources might have a little to do with that?

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I'm sure if the UK had some of Frances beaches, and mountains, then we'd have a thriving tourist industry that wouldn't be quite as reliant on the Royal connection...

ernie_lynch - Member
Ooh I've just seen your edited post grantway, which you edited after I posted mine. No please don't come to South London - we don't need bigots like you stirring the shit in our ace multicultural and multi-ethnic communities. Keep your hatred to yourself.

Ernie did not have you down as a Jerk but ill invite you here before you
accuse myself in being something in which you don't know !

Oh I apologise for bursting your Conservative bubble

One more reason why Britain is great- i saw this and thought of the bank holiday!

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Someone else's obviously as i don't remember a bloody thing 😉

Yes Z-11, I think we can safely say that people don't come to Britain for the weather and beautiful beaches.

Perhaps that's the solution - countries in northern Europe should keep their monarchies for the tourists, whilst southern European countries needn't bother ?

But who would have thought that an old stalwart Tory like yourself would be happy to relegate the monarchy to some sort of freak show for the tourists, eh ?

BTW it's worth pointing out that there isn't much difference in the weather between Versailles and Buckingham Palace. So if mrmo's figures are correct I would be interested in knowing why more than 10 times more people visit Versailles than Buckingham Palace - presumably they're not expecting to see the king and queen at Versailles ? Plus of course it's a darn sight more difficult to get from the centre of Paris to Versailles, than it is to get from the centre of London to Buckingham Palace. Most peculiar.

EDIT : I've just realised that France has more foreigners visiting in one year than it has population

Ernie, these 76m "tourists" are figures skewed by the 50m + Lithuanians, Romanians, Poles and Gypsy's who are obliged to pass through France on their way to a better life getting pished in parks and committing petty vehicle crime in east London. Forsaking their squalid dachas by the Black Sea for a council house in Leytonstone, paid for by me and you, the hardworking British taxpayer.

How dashed cunning and, well, typically [i]foreign[/i], if I may say, of the French, to claim them as tourists!

I celebrated the Jubilee by doing the downhill at Fort William and camping in Glencoe - managed to completely avoid it, the weather was ace, and yes I felt smug when I heard it was lashing it down in the rest of the country. God must be a republican!

How dashed cunning and, well, typically foreign, if I may say, of the French, to claim them as tourists!

Those are figures were collated by the United Nations, they are for tourists, not foreigners. So it excludes people entering the country on business, or Gypsies passing through on their way to collect free money and large houses with swimming pools from the British taxpayer. If you include all the people coming through France on their way to give Daily Mail readers heart attacks, I'm sure the figure would run into many millions.

Well this is my usual walk taking the dog to the Central Park
and on the way this is what you are always greeted by people chucking
there crap out, but then again should count myself lucky has usually
finding beds or white goods littering the pavements every morning.
Did not see anyone camping this morning maybe due to the rain the night before.
And enjoy the pic of the van of our new scrap dealer

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I will try and get some pics before the i go away on my Hols
just hope the weather changes

And enjoy the pic of the van of our new scrap dealer

Yep, it certainly feasts the eyes to see that someone has clearly used their own personal entrepreneurial initiative to make themselves economically active in an area with extremely high levels of unemployment. Let's hope they make a success of it, eh ?

And I was surprised to see such tidy looking houses in one of the most deprived areas of London - are they mostly asian owned ? In my experience asian families tend to make an effort to keep the externals of their houses and their gardens tidy, even if the don't have much money.

It's a shame to see that rubbish but none of it looks as if it's been there very long, you must have a very efficient council - is it Labour controlled ? Although it is nice to see the hedge clippings bagged up - is that how the council collects it ?

Yup, I can see why you refuse to move out of the area, despite the fact that according to you most people appear to be alcoholics - it's a small price to pay eh ? Actually any chance of pics of these a alcoholics, you know, what you talked about : "All we have every night is pissed Polish, Lithuanians, Russian and Romanian Gypsies constantly pissed" and "I'm constantly faced with pissed migrants sleeping in the Two parks near my Central Park & Brampton park" because that surprised me.

Eastern Europeans around my manor generally appear to be fairly sober. Mind you go into Central Croydon on a Saturday night and you find plenty of young white British completely out of their skulls. The mess they leave is quite appalling, including piss and vomit. My council tax has to pay for all that to be cleared up. Shocking.

Think your missing the point of the van
will think they are more not to be paying any taxes one bit
will try and pick of the owners

Nope the area within this part of East London was one of the more wanted part of East London to live
Regarding who owns well mostly white/Coloured whom own and mainly rent out to others
or professional persons prospecting on the hope that this part of East london will increase in value.

Asians are mainly found on the other side of Eastham (High st North) where mostly are run down or little done to them.

When in Poland (Krakov) 18years back when visiting friends whom was putting Tesco and British airspace in Poland we had noticed due to around Three generations living in one place.
They socialised within such communal areas has they have no space at home, and thats why we see large gatherings within our parks.
I have no probe with that but being totally drunk urinating whilst kids are playing and leaving there crap every where is that right ? or do you in courage this!

Was raining last night so no one in the parks this morning so no pics this morning

The rubbish being fresh/new Yep every morning you find more rubbish dumped on the corners of the turnings every morning day after day.

Is it Labour controlled mmm yes but spoken to an ex councillor this morning well apparently some years back
the Labour council payed for a 10 year forecast on how to get rid of the poor within EastHam and make it into an affluent area has it once was. And the Labour council actually started at one time to move the elderly out towards Southend and the surrounding areas.

Move out the area! Yup just purchased a Property in Spain in September and once mortgage next year is paid
here in East Ham will be renting out and moving to Woodford near Epping
Spanish home is just a weekend or the odd week break for the moment and then retire early and will move
over there in about 8 years time and let my daughter have the the Woodford home rent free and keep renting the EastHam property in which will be giving us a very comfortable return for years to come

then retire early and will move
over there in about 8 years time

Mind out, son. Then you'll be a bloody immigrant.

zimbo - Member
then retire early and will move
over there in about 8 years time
Mind out, son. Then you'll be a bloody immigrant.

Yep But one that will be paying my way and NOT Living off the Spanish tax payer !

Move out the area! Yup just purchased a Property in Spain in September and once mortgage next year is paid

good. don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out.

Yep But one that will be paying my way and NOT Living off the Spanish tax payer !

Glad to hear it. Just make sure you don't take any of your bloody English customs with you. And stay away from their jobs and their women.

In all seriousness, I hope they welcome you with open arms and appreciate what positive things you can bring to Spain.

they eat lots of Garlic

We now consume more garlic than the French. Source BBC cooking programme (may need a pinch of salt and single estate olive oil to be believed).

Thank you Zimbo I normally make a point of avoiding the Brits when abroad.

I am already trying to organise an evening Local crafts market including street performers etc
all locals come first and then others to apply for stalls.
A market that involves everyone and families to socialise

I will not be having a stall

No problems there Tandem, thats for another 8 years so be carful i won't be shredding your rear tyre out on the trails.

Thank you Zimbo

De nada, amigomio. The more people live away from their homeland, the more tolerant and wonderful the world gradually becomes...

Zimbo

Desaela mucha suerte y felicidad 😉