Im glad they were convicted. They are smuggling illegal immigrants into the country. Why would they not expect to be prosecuted. Anyone not claiming refugee status in the first safe country they enter is acting illegally and changing their status from refugee to illegal immigrant.
Merry Christmas dude.
Funny how he spent years posting one word or one line answers to everything. Now it's War & Peace on every thread.
Watch for the "I'm more comfortable saying Ya" descend into a more comfortable and natural "Yes" as he becomes more agitated. 😛
Attention seeking troll.
chrismac - MemberIm glad they were convicted. They are smuggling illegal immigrants into the country. Why would they not expect to be prosecuted. Anyone not claiming refugee status in the first safe country they enter is acting illegally and changing their status from refugee to illegal immigrant.
Literally none of this is true. I doubt you care, but I thought it worth mentioning
chrismac - MemberAnyone not claiming refugee status in the first safe country they enter is acting illegally and changing their status from refugee to illegal immigrant.
Are you a lawyer ?
I did ask a genuine question, don't refugees have to go home when it's safe to?
I did ask a genuine question, don't refugees have to go home when it's safe to?
Sometimes. But refugees are people with lives - they become part of communities, have kids, form close relationships with others. Their status as refugees isn't fixed - neither their mindset.
chrismac - Member
Im glad they were convicted. They are smuggling illegal immigrants into the country. Why would they not expect to be prosecuted. Anyone not claiming refugee status in the first safe country they enter is acting illegally and changing their status from refugee to illegal immigrant.
As big a ****er as Chewkw
What does 'sometimes' mean? They either have to or they don't? I get they become part of the community, but these people will be needed to rebuild their old communities surely?
Really hungry monkey??? Honestly?, what if he was inadvertently helping terrorists into the country and they went on to kill? What then?
Don't be so stupid, rules are there for a reason.
mitsumonkey - MemberDon't be so stupid, rules are there for a reason.
I can't see anything in the UK government website saying that anyone not claiming refugee status in the first safe country they enter is acting illegally and changing their status from refugee to illegal immigrant.
What rules are you talking about ?
https://www.gov.uk/claim-asylum/eligibility
I'm not taking about that Ernie, they were people smuggling illegally. That's a dangerous business.
you've not read it, have you mitsumonkey.
what if he was inadvertently helping terrorists into the country and they went on to kill? What then?
a) it's a 'she'
b) the refugees were already in the country, and 'he' didn't take them out of it, nor bring them in.
maybe you should read the article?
mitsumonkey - MemberReally hungry monkey??? Honestly?, what if he was inadvertently helping terrorists into the country and they went on to kill? What then?
Don't be so stupid, rules are there for a reason.
Lol.
hungry monkey - Member
chrismac - Member
Im glad they were convicted. They are smuggling illegal immigrants into the country. Why would they not expect to be prosecuted. Anyone not claiming refugee status in the first safe country they enter is acting illegally and changing their status from refugee to illegal immigrant.
As big a **** as Chewkw
Eh?
Jesus Christ.
All getting a bit emotional.
captainsasquatch - MemberAll getting a bit emotional.
Yes, it looks like it is going that way so I shall leave this thread to others.
maybe you should read the article?
Don't be so daft, they'd then have to realise they didn't even cross the border out of the country, just took them to the train station.
****ing hell some of you are ****s.
****ing children.
****ing children!?
The only way to deter refugees fleeing war is to be worse than what they are running from. Some of you sound like you would like that.
They are people, no more likely to be a terrorist than anyone else.
Why would ISIS go to the trouble of sending terrorists all the way from Syria when they've recruited plenty of Europeans already living here?
Seriously, have a ****ing word with yourselves.
Also, Lebanon has recently closed its borders, with the estimated number of refugees way over 2 million, so probably not room there, never mind their involvement in the Syrian conflict.
my apologies for using a banned term, having one of those days..
however, i find some of the views expressed in this thread abhorrent, and i stand by my convictions that views like those should be held up to the spotlight and challenged.
I also believe that if you are going to post reactionary guff about a given topic, you should at least have read what you're commenting on.
I also believe that if you are going to post reactionary guff about a given topic, you should at least have read what you're commenting on
Fair enough, I'll hold my hands up and admit I didn't read it. I'll go and read it now. Apologies for being a ****t. Sorry guys.
sorry guys
Post reported! 😉
Apologies for being a ****t. Sorry guys
Is this a first on STW?
Watch for the "I'm more comfortable saying Ya" descend into a more comfortable and natural "Yes" as he becomes more agitated.
Attention seeking troll.
Its almost like hes making an effort to learn the language and fit in, whilst posting reactionary guff about no go areas and migrants not fitting in.
Now I've read the article I'm even more ashamed of myself for that rubbish I posted. I don't think I would of done anything different to them in the circumstances. Oh this world, what a mess.
mitsumonkey - Member
Now I've read the article I'm even more ashamed of myself for that rubbish I posted. I don't think I would of done anything different to them in the circumstances. Oh this world, what a mess.
You are you.
You are who you are.
You [b]Did Not[/b] cause the world to suffer.
how many refugees has the oil rich same religion/culture/expansive area, saudi arabia taken in ?
According to the 1951 Geneva convention a refugee is someone who has had a claim accepted by the government. It also states the asylum seekers should claim asylum in the first safe country they enter.
how many refugees has the oil rich same religion/culture/expansive area, saudi arabia taken in ?
Depending on who you believe, anything between 0 and 2.5 million. I'd hazard a guess at somewhere between 500,000 and 1 million, but it's very difficult to be sure, given the way that the UN counts refugees and Saudi Arabia's not being party to a lot of UN conventions.
how many refugees has the oil rich same religion/culture/expansive area, saudi arabia taken in ?
None.
how many refugees has the oil rich same religion/culture/expansive area, saudi arabia taken in ?
Not generally a fan of answering a question with a question, but what does that have to do with the OP?
Romans 13.1-7, Cougar.
Is that a typo and Cougar beat Romans by 4 goals, or did he only score 1.7 goals?
I did ask a genuine question, don't refugees have to go home when it's safe to?
It depends on the host country, sometimes they grant temporary residence/asylum and sometimes that translates into a permanent right to stay/become a citizen. I would wager the vast majority of those coming to Europe hope to stay permanently, you can't blame them as Europe is richer than Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Morocco, Tunisia, ****stan, Bangladesh etc are ever going to be in their or their children's lifetimes.
I would wager the vast majority of those coming to Europe hope to stay permanently, you can't blame them as Europe is richer than Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Morocco, Tunisia, ****stan, Bangladesh etc are ever going to be in their or their children's lifetimes.
I know this isn't new but I remain constantly disappointed that you insist on seeing everything in your "everything wealthy is to be sought for" frame of reference, rather than considering other people might have aims of not bringing up their children in a war zone, or even just not wanting to sleep where bombs are dropping.
Our Syrian mate was very well off in his country of birth, Jamba, He was military and spoke out against Assad, was tortured, hung by the feet and dropped repeatedly until his neck broke.
His family paid for his release, and initial medical care to stabalise his neck injuries. Its understood if he returns, its open season on him and his relatives- if there is any real truth in that is debatable, but he sure as shit believes it so.
We met him in a homeless hostel, where he wasnt allowed to work, and had a very basic allowance for toiletries etc. The hostel provided 2 meals, breakfast and main.
So from swanning around in his dads Bentley and access to private yachts, to dossing with addicts and people at their lowest ebb.
From fine dining when on leave, to cornflakes and toast with marg, and an evening meal of lasagne with frozen veg with a helping of spotted dick for afters.
So he for one aint here for the money.
It's a bit of a success story in the long run, touching on another reason he wouldnt want to go back, once he got a work permit while still in the Hostel, he got a job waiting on in our favorite Persian restaurant, built up a little nest egg, moved out to Liverpool and went self employed and last i heard he was doing well for himself.
So Liverpool is home now, and i'd say Liverpool is richer for him calling it his home
Ulysse, stop humanising people. Easy narratives fall apart when you start doing stuff like that.
That aint the full story, anyone who knows the UK hostel system would have worked that one out- but the rest is between me and my family and him...
My nephew he really took to due to similar ages, and they keep in regular contact
