[Closed] Prometheus just starting

Dull looking Afrikaans girl from Benoni. Not my thing.

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Its a film. Why the vitirol?

Alien was a good film. The sequels were at least on a par with the prequel (i.e not as good as the first).

Terrible cliched junk.

There's a place for cliched Sci-fi films, and it would have been OK if it hadn't had so much pre-release hype, and didn't take itself so terribly seriously in the opening scenes.

I learnt a long time ago to avoid hype of films. Watch the odd trailer maybe talk about it a little but avoid the big media push for them as you'll always end up disappointed.

[i]Regardless it's still the same, it's a Sci-fi not a documentary.[/i]

I'm as willing as the next man to suspend my disbelief, but there comes a point at which when moving the story along to get within a Hollywood bean counter's idea of how long people will watch a film, at the expense of "a plot" becomes too much weight to carry, even for a Director as talented as Ridley Scott. It was clearly at some point "An Ambitious Undertaking" that has had too many revisions, and the insertion of "action for the sake of it" And so you end up with a film that's a curious mixture of Ridley's endless reinterpretation of catholic themes, bizarre cuts to get it to a shorter length, and freeeking lasers action sequences.

At some point there may well be a version that makes any kind of sense, but the "running about smashing stuff up with a space axe after having your stomach cut open" deserves all the heaps of shit that are poured endlessly upon it.

And it's got Charleze Theron in it. Who can't act her way out of a wet paper bag

As well as being insulting to the mother of my children (she doesn't know it yet, though) your post is incorrect - Charlize Theron is a pretty good actress - see e.g. Monster

what really ruined it for me was the ass backwards actions of the crew in every important scene.

and yes the c section/running about thing.

Started to watch it again, remembered it was a school night, will finish watching later in the week. So worth a rewatch but only because I'm "emotionally invested" in the series. Which reminds me think I'd got 1-3 on an old digi box, time to get my mrs into aliens.

Watch the odd trailer maybe talk about it a little but avoid the big media push for them as you'll always end up disappointed.

not even the trailer, it's more and more common to see the trailer and be able to predict the entire film.

Why you're right there's not many films that aren't predictable they all follow a very basic sub plot.

Charlize Theron is a pretty good actress - see e.g. Monster

If an actor can act they can act, if they do a bad performance there are a ton of other factors.

I watched it back in Jan on you lots recommendations, whilst I watched and enjoyed it to a large degree I too found lots of plot holes and odd acting elements.
But the overwhelming feeling to this film I had was Ridley had all the scene shots planned, the wide open scope shots and location ideas then had to put a plot around that.. Instead of the other way around
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Has no one mentioned the horrific Scottish actress? Her lines and delivery in it are eye wateringly bad.

When I watched it at the cinema it definitely felt like it needed a director's cut. There seemed to be several holes that suggested scenes had been cut. The sequel appears to have stalled.

One bit I didn't like- They manage to bring down the blokes space ship. So why didn't he jump in one of his other space ships? Why did he instead go after just ONE person- her to get her?

That is one bit I had an issue with.

He was a bit pissed off.

I liked it. It's not perfect, but there's enough good stuff to be worth watching imo.

There's some missing scenes on the extras dvd (possibly on youtube) that explain "strange" decisions made by some of the crew to some extent. I think it went through a lot of script changes.
http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/22988/does-the-prometheus-blu-ray-resolve-the-film%E2%80%99s-mysteries

A bit like Interstellar. It felt like there was a better story in there that had been changed by some accountants or mass-market film execs or something to make it more marketable.

I love sci-films where you can suspend belief and just get on with enjoying a bit of flying through space, exploring, shooting stuff, being scared etc. but this film was absolute drivel.....it just didn't work for me at all.....I've recorded it to watch again in the hope that I missed something the first time round, but even now just remembering some of the scenes is making me not want to bother....

If rumours are true the second one shows no link to the Aliens films so might explain the reset on the creatures in Prometheus.

They are letting him make another one?

[quote=torsoinalake said]They are letting him make another one?

Yup, money talks.

Prometheus stats
Budget $120–130 million
Box office $403.4 million

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b053zsn5

theres an early script onlione somewhere, (Bloodydisgusting I think) it shows all the changes that Damon Lindeloff shoehorned in, basically adding a lot of pseudo mystical religious stuff onto noomi rapaces character as well as removing a direct link to the LV426 in the first film

still doesnt explain some of the silly actions of some of the characters

I think it really grates becasue this film in concept is far more like Alien than any of the sequels and the actions and reactions of the (brilliant) cast in the original were all entirely believable, this film, really didnt have that

I can't stand Mark Kermode. 😀

Ridley Scotts middle name is Diddley.

I like it but I think I was also watch Wellington's history at the same time ... 😆

I can't stand Mark Kermode.

Nonetheless, he's a recognised expert in his field and in this program he explores the reason films get financed as they do nowadays.

It's not Alien, get over it. If that's what people are desperate for then Neill Blonkamp is now making the sequel to Aliens that people are craving. I can't wait for Prometheus 2. Plus Blonkamps Aliens obviously.

I went downhill for me early on when they mention the height of a mountain in feet..

I went downhill for me early on when they mention the height of a mountain in feet..

The way it should be. Well done Ridley.

Nonetheless, he's a recognised expert in his field and in this program he explores the reason films get financed as they do nowadays.

That's nice for him.

What the hell is wrong with you Drac!?

You're being a total tool ATM.

Ermm! I expressed I don't like the guy that's all but thanks for your concern.

Whhyyyyyyyyyy

I was posting something related to the conversation for the possible interest of others on the forum, and you're just being flippant.

It's not going to help is it?

Part of the controversy about this film is to do with its "quality" and the ratings vs the income it made.

Hence me thinking to post that link so people who are interested in that may find the programme and if they wish listen to an expert on the subject interview and discuss with people actually involved in film.

Seriously, I only contribute to threads in the spirit of discussion and learning on the subject at hand. As far as i know that's the point of a forum.

If you're going to continue to put me down and take the piss I'm going to be put off being here, and I don't think I'll be alone in that opinion.

It feels like you're not valuing the community members when you do that.

Ohh so it's good to hear another film is in the offing, I will cross my fingers for a decent plot and expect a few new camera methods in keeping with Ridleys ethos.

I think the problem is CGI and huge budgets mean they need to be less creative and can do less with more.

alien/aliens were small and claustrophobic because they couldn't get lost in an endless tunnel system

this is why the new star wars has gone back to physical props and matte paintings to differentiate it from the flabby cgi jazzfest of the prequels.

I think it's a good film. Good atmosphere and great visuals .

I watched the whole film again last night, still say it is drivel and I adore sci fi films and books. I can suspend belief but what makes Alien and ALiens outstanding is the script themes and interaction of the cast.

Alien had the engineers aka mothers union asking for more money, moaning complaining and generally being human, the auidance cared for the crew and what happened. Plus strong characters regardless of gender.Also they had a rationale of action.

Real shocking scenes even today, tight, nervy and a design that mixed functionality with art deco.

Prometheus just sucked seen it in 3d on opening day and then twice more and it gets worse but when telly takes 5 mins or more out then it becomes incomprehensible. Characters dire stereotypes ( sports jock I will take the risks/worried on the edge might breakdown/oh look at me mad but out of my depth), dire dialogue and mis use of the cast. Idris E as the capt really interesting , THeron is a good actress but was lumbered with dire character, who was meant to be the counterpoint to Shaw.......both survivalists one however has a depth of reserves, a human trait. Fassbender is brilliant.

as for the future Prometheus 2 will find the creators in civil war, with two ultimate war machines, the Aliens and The Humans.

Neil BLonkmap loved District 9 enjoyed Elysuim till it got silly in the last quarter....not seen chappie daren't so not expecting much.

I still like Alien 3 lots to commend in it.

Oh and Kermode is brilliant.

I was posting something related to the conversation for the possible interest of others on the forum, and you're just being flippant.

I posted my feelings on Kermode.

I find him dull and only likes the films that are arty farty. Expert or not I don't have to agree with him or his taste in films.

Seriously, I only contribute to threads in the spirit of discussion and learning on the subject at hand. As far as i know that's the point of a forum.

You may have noticed I was already posting in the thread.

If you're going to continue to put me down and take the piss I'm going to be put off being here, and I don't think I'll be alone in that opinion.

I'm really not doing that, I expressed my opinions on Kermode not about you.

Hmmmmm..... OK

Dunno man, I think your turn of phrase is poor, "That's nice for him" come across as a slap when someone posts something meant to be of interest or relevance.

Maybe more emoticons? They exist for a good reason!

In passing I think you're also getting MK wrong - films he's recommended recently include Guardians of the Galaxy and F+F 7. Not really arty farty!

If you really didn't mean to offend, then I also apologise for being so touchy.

Don't apologise I can see how it came across wrong but wasn't my intensions.

Yeah, Guardians of the Galaxy I really found that painful to watch just didn't enjoy it.

Fast and Furious I've not watched since I struggled through the first one.

I was hoping for a good film from Prometheus, but I feel they tried to do too much and the characters were just no interesting and unreal.

Running around in space as they were was just boring.

No suspense or horror. not that it is a horror film, but the CGI is never going to make up for the ludicrous story.

Guardians of the Galaxy I really found that painful to watch just didn't enjoy it

that is the joy of films and discussions personally Guardians is brilliant, sparkling script, pace wit and a knowing wink to the fans of the gendre but accessible to a first time viewer in matter of fact everything Prometheus is not

I find him dull and only likes the films that are arty farty.

Dear lord the man liked Mamma Mia. His "Pirates of the Caribbean 3" rant is however a joy to behold

HtJI.

for rants from Mr Kermode Sex in the city 2, brilliant

Rated the Lego Movie too