Nope NZCol - I win. The only car I have owned was a ford Anglia for a few weeks in the 70s.
Haters here have to hate
FFS it's "haters gonna hate". What's the point of an internet meme if you're going to make minor variations.
good luck with the purchase op - get a private plate so we know who you are
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sorry if this has already been suggested -cba to look through 4 pages worth
"Or did I miss something?"
Yes, yes you did. Quite a lot, actually. I doubt trying to explain this to you would have any significant effect, so I won't bother.
"Showing off is really important to some people. Let them crack on"
I have no issue with people making fools of themselves in public. I do have a problem with people feeling that it's ok to drive around in a car that produces far more pollution/uses far more finite resources than is necessary. I do have a problem with people driving around in massive heavy vehicles that pose a far greater risk of harm to other road users (anyone owning a Chelsea Tractor, feel free to let me drive it into you when you're out on your bike, see how well you come off). Etc.
"Haters here have to hate"
I do find it quite poetic, that you own a vehicle in keeping with your online persona, Jamba. 😆
Tech to play my music through stereo would be more useful.
That's what the phone [connection] kit does. Basically they enable the head units bluetooth in return for a couple of hundred quid 😕
clodhopperYes, yes you did. Quite a lot, actually. I doubt trying to explain this to you would have any significant effect, so I won't bother.
Aw that's disappointing, I was hoping to benefit from you and your penis knowledge. I mean I presume you have superior penis knowledge, can't be sure. But the way you felt the need to state that your neighbour is
currently doing up an old LWB Landy with a view to offroading it round Iceland
means he must be a penis expert. Right? He's taking the Landrover to the Phallological museum is that it? Perhaps he's the curator there? Giving a lecture? Or are we to presume that he has a giant penis...and this....somehow....imbues him with innate penis assessing abilities?
It's not often you come across someone with such a rare talent, such a high powered penis perception.
Maybe he is. Who knows. I'll ask him next time I see him.
"Aw that's disappointing"
Never mind. I could buy you a t-shirt if you like, would that help?
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clodhopperNever mind. I could buy you a t-shirt if you like, would that help?
In your expert opinion, how will it effect my penis?
Do they come with sensors that let you know the lane on your left is empty?
I don't hate them. I do agree with Rusty Spanner's sentiments on the whole marketing vs engineering thing though. Incidentally they dry sump the petrol versions to get the engine lower to mitigate some of the high centre of gravity. They don't bother with the diesel though.
Kind of sad that Porsche is selling diesel SUVs that could be shown a clean set of heals by the six year old SEAT on my drive, but they spend some of the profit making things like the 918 so maybe we should be thanking the drivers
I don't like the fridge magnet look..
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Define a 'clean set of heals'. I'm not convinced a 6 yr old Seat could show a Macan a clean set of heals in the real world on real roads. Those things are wonders of modern engineering and though it is heavier and possibly slower in a straight line, it'll muller the Seat on the bends as it will have so much more grip, and ultimately grip trumps everything.
I quite like the rear end - it sort of hints at the 928.
Lol. And in other news, my dad's car is faster than your dad's car...
wobbliscott - MemberI quite like the rear end - it sort of hints at the 928.
Reminiscent of a Rover 200 from that angle. 😆
That of a 10 year old imprezza estate...
I do have a problem with people feeling that it's ok to drive around in a car that produces far more pollution/uses far more finite resources than is necessary. I do have a problem with people driving around in massive heavy vehicles that pose a far greater risk of harm to other road users (anyone owning a Chelsea Tractor, feel free to let me drive it into you when you're out on your bike, see how well you come off). Etc.
Like an old landrover? I hope you told your neighbour.
Does it look more like a Rover 200:-
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or a Porsche 928 (albeit a bit of a bloated 928)?:-
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Whatever car Porsche make it tends to be the best in it's class, or pretty much up there. The Macan is a much better SUV than any other competing one, aesthetics aside, so forget it's a Porsche for a second, it's just a very good car. It's beautiful ugly, which is a look I like in cars, unlike the offerings from Audi and BMW which are just grotesque - like a photo finish in a gurning contest, and the VW, as always, commits the ultimate sin of just being plain old boring. To be fair, the F-Pace looks half decent though, but is more expensive than the Macan and won't be as good. But ultimately there is a special place in hell reserved for SUV's - utterly pointless cars and completely the product of a questionnaire asked of a bunch of wags preserved in fake tan pumped up with botox and silicone in a shopping precinct in some Cheshire semi-rural town. I'd have a Mondeo estate and a 928 for the weekends instead.
Rover.
though I think I got it's little brother right
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But ultimately there is a special place in hell reserved for SUV's - utterly pointless cars and completely the product of a questionnaire asked of a bunch of wags preserved in fake tan pumped up with botox and silicone in a shopping precinct in some [s]Cheshire[/s] Hampshire semi-rural town.
On the basis that this thread is still going on I googled the god awful Bentley Bentayga that the mum of one of the kids I teach drives who resembles the quote above (with a county tweak). I can't find a photo online that shows quite how dreadful it looks in real life. It makes the OP's Macan look pretty reasonable and modestly priced!
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Yes but the lights look nothing like a Rover 200's. It's all in the shape of the lights. Like on the front, it makes a little face and the 928/Macan looks like a far prettier face with the reg plate below the line of the lights which makes it look more like a conventional face where the mouth is below the eye level. The Rover has the mouth between the eyes - it just looks all wrong and leave a bit fat bumper, like a big double chin, and therefore loses any resemblance to the Macan. And then you've got the angle of the rear window, really raked back on the Macan/928, but much more upright on the Rover. They couldn't be more different if you tried.
Define a 'clean set of heals'. I'm not convinced a 6 yr old Seat could show a Macan a clean set of heals in the real world on real roads.
As in a diesel Macan wouldn't see which way it went.
It's 450kg heavier than a older Leon Cupra and has slightly less power
it'll muller the Seat on the bends as it will have so much more grip, and ultimately grip trumps everything.
Seriously doubt it, that extra half a tonne has to be turned, braked and accelerated out of every bend. The Macan turbo has almost 400hp to make up for its weight penalty. The diesel has just over 250hp which isn't going to set the scenery on fire in a car weighing 1900kg.
Plus the guy leasing the Macan is probably quote worried about what the finance company will say if he buries it in a hedge!
richmtbSeriously doubt it, that extra half a tonne has to be turned, braked and accelerated out of every bend. The Macan turbo has almost 400hp to make up for its weight penalty. The diesel has just over 250hp which isn't going to set the scenery on fire in a car weighing 1900kg.
Good thing it has nearly 600nm of torque to help with that then. Luckily Porsche have had the foresight to offer faster, more powerful variants should perspective customers be concerned about racing hot hatches.
Do these type of cars ever get driven quickly? Isn't it just about fast acceleration out of a roundabout and a boot it out of a junction? Rarely do I see a Cayanne "making progress" and I've only seen a couple of Mecans around Town where the fastest speeds are gained on the ramp of Canary Wharf...
Good thing it has nearly 600nm of torque to help with that then.
Ahh torque, quoted in Nm natch! The straw that all the diesel drivers clutch 🙂
Do these type of cars ever get driven quickly? Isn't it just about fast acceleration out of a roundabout and a boot it out of a junction?
No but in moments of anxiety you can quote big sounding numbers to restore your dignity... anyway regardless of what it might look like it doesn't look good, will have the complete inverse Tardis going on where the inside is inexplicably smaller than the outside and be driven badly and parked in the middle of the road outside schools mostly.
A review of the Macan.
It's no slouch in any form except the most basic:
[url= http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/porsche/macan ]Autocar[/url]
"For a two-tonne 4x4, it’s remarkable how poised, taut, balanced and plain enjoyable to drive the Macan is. It’s very nearly amazing. There is a cutting edge to its dynamic make-up that no other SUV on the market can approach, never mind equal – and you need a really good rear-drive sports saloon or two-seater to beat it."
Whatever car Porsche make it tends to be the best in it's class, or pretty much up there. The Macan is a much better SUV than any other competing one, aesthetics aside, so forget it's a Porsche for a second, it's just a very good car. It's beautiful ugly, which is a look I like in cars, unlike the offerings from Audi and BMW which are just grotesque - like a photo finish in a gurning contest, and the VW, as always, commits the ultimate sin of just being plain old boring. To be fair, the F-Pace looks half decent though, but is more expensive than the Macan and won't be as good. But ultimately there is a special place in hell reserved for SUV's - utterly pointless cars and completely the product of a questionnaire asked of a bunch of wags preserved in fake tan pumped up with botox and silicone in a shopping precinct in some Cheshire semi-rural town. I'd have a Mondeo estate and a 928 for the weekends instead.
So I suppose the Macca's closest competetion is a ten year old Forester with comparable performance and grip, but at a tenth/twentieth of the price. 😉
Love to see a youtube shootout...
It's no slouch in any form except the most basic:
Agreed and any comparisons to a hot hatch don't really stand up if we are talking about about the faster petrol versions but Porsche themselves have said that they expect 60% of the sales to be the basic diesel S model
Nice badge though and I'd certainly pick it over an X3 or a Q5
I can't find direct tests, but the closest I can get is a 2010 golf GTI
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2010-volkswagen-gti-3-door-dsg-instrumented-test
and a macan gts
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-porsche-macan-gts-tested-reviews
both have similar levels of grip (0.88g on a 300ft skid pan) - the Macan stops much quicker.
The macan marginally slower to 62 - 6.3 seconds verses 6.0
I would say they're broadly as quick as each other. Certainly no 'clean pair of heels'
Your comparing a 207hp Golf Gti to 360hp Macan GTS
I'm suggesting that a 2010 Leon Cupra with 265bhp might show a clean pair of heels to the 256hp diesel Macan S
other than that you analysis is spot on.
Incidentally the current Cupra 280 lapped Autocar's test track in 46.9s. The Macan turbo (the top end 400bhp version) managed 46.7s.
Again not sure the base spec diesel Macan would see which way either of them went
Don't forget just how good the handling is on a Macan. It maybe a lump but the reviews all agree the handling is exceptional & that's before you take into the account its an SUV.
All the power in the World is useless if your car has the handling prowess of a 3 wheeled shopping trolley..!
Don't forget just how good the handling is on a Macan. It maybe a lump but the reviews all agree the handling is exceptional & that's before you take into the account its an SUV.
Not quite. From your post above, Autocar reckon it's excellent "for a two ton SUV" .
I think that means they're qualifying their praise; in fact it's "very nearly amazing"!
"For a two-tonne 4x4, it’s remarkable how poised, taut, balanced and plain enjoyable to drive the Macan is. It’s very nearly amazing. There is a cutting edge to its dynamic make-up that no other SUV on the market can approach, never mind equal – and you need a really good rear-drive sports saloon or two-seater to beat it."
Lol, I've read five pages of guff about a car I know nothing about and have never seen, finally a pic gets posted and it looks like a Rover 200. I'm wasting my life away...
What tyres for a Macan?
Does anyone own one and if so what are your thoughts or optional extras you'd recommend
A bit late to the thread, just saw this. Yes I own one.
Good safety options: blind spot monitor, lane change assist, radar cruise control, the cornering lights system (PDLS I think), rear-view camera/surround view.
The air suspension is really good.
Electric seats are also very handy, if more than one person drives it - the 18-way adjustable sports seats option is the best and they are very comfortable.
For a cold climate, heated seats/steering wheel and auxiliary heating are all very good.
The coolest option you can get on a Macan is the Burmester sound system, which is exceptionally good.
The panoramic glass roof is excellent and doesn't creak, but you cannot have roof rails with it.
The rail system in the boot is also very practical, I highly recommend it, basically you can fix bags in place so that nothing moves.
Can't believe someone else who actually owns one has had the cheek to post a reply!
We'll be getting actual facts soon and where's the fun in that?
Can't believe someone else who actually owns one has had the cheek to post a reply!
We'll be getting actual facts soon and where's the fun in that?
and it's their only ever post on STW what are the odds 🙂
[quote=Klunk ]and it's their only ever post on STW what are the odds
Having just registered...
[quote=santacoops ]What tyres for a Macan?
effing expensive ones
PDLS - is very cool - more than cornering it blocks out the lights from ongoing vehicles so you have full been on more of the time. Also it changes light patterns depending on speed. Got know how much it costs to repair if it goes wrong!
I must say I'm surprised that you can't get roof rails and panoramic roof. Can't get your MTB on the top... no go for me then 🙂
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Given a choice between the above bike and a Macan for a day in a ski resort/eastern Spain/Béarn, which would you people take?
Edit, assuming there were pedals on the bike
Saw a Bentayga in the flesh for the first time yesterday. Didn't hate it.
[quote=Edukator ]Given a choice between the above bike and a Macan for a day in a ski resort/eastern Spain/Béarn, which would you people take?
Can you get a Macan on the lifts?
Given a choice between the above bike and a Macan for a day in a ski resort/eastern Spain/Béarn, which would you people take?
depends are porsche warranties not worth the paper they are written on ?
Odd question. For a day in a ski resort I'd take the bike. For the 150 mile trip I did this morning I'd take the car thanks.
