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Oh, I don't know. I think you're bloody hilarious.
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he not as good as you though ๐
Well, Gervais and F.Boyle envy my notoriety...
I dunno what's going on these days, I think in a lot of cases it's just plain attention seeking on behalf of the hand wringers, seriously do you think for one moment the actual downs syndrome sufferers themselves are at all offended by Gervais's remarks, wether or not it was aimed at them. No, it's those tasked with the job of caring for them, or those parents who are sensitive to the stares and probably over sensitive in some instances.
Sayings used to go sticks and stones.. etc.
And whatever happened to
"I may not like what you say, but I will defend your right to the death to say it."
Thousands died to support that particular mantra.
And now, you can get called racist, banned from places like this for the silliest of remarks by small minded power crazed folk.
All of it is hypocrisy we offend each other in all sorts of ways without even realising it at times, yet protect particular groups in the name of God knows what sort of harmony.
Basic human tribalistic tendency will always select some group or other for ironic diversion quite why now it's become a criminal offence one can only assume is down to lack of real enemy action as a diversion.
Either way stuff like this sucks.
derekrides
so you think its ok to use words for diasbilities as insults?
seriously do you think for one moment the actual downs syndrome sufferers themselves are at all offended by Gervais's remarks
Dunno. Why don't you ask some, come back to us with the answers?
And now, you can get called racist, banned from places like this for the silliest of remarks by small minded power crazed folk.
Some of your remarks are [i]very[/i] silly though derek, be fair. ๐
elfin you can't use "silly" it's derived from the ridicule of those who are weak minded. You may as well just have called him a "mong" or "joey"
I'm very disappointed in you, I though you were the moral pillar of this 'ere forum
Silly they may be, but no offence intended to anyone here as i recall, and no doubt had it been one of you two 'longer termers' no action would have resulted.
I don't care what anyone says about anybody, i subscribe to Helvetius (the man who quoted the defend your right to say it line) people call me all sorts of things, it doesn't hurt, it does me no harm.
You can call me Gay, Faggot, Ugly, Uncool, i can react to the contrary should I so wish, but some self appointed judge jury and executioner calling me racist and banning the use of a public forum because of his own personal and very probably contrived offence, I find personally very offensive.
So as to your question do I think it's lame?
Is my ironic comeback to your spelling disability..
sorry Derek you can't use "Lame" either as it's derogatory to those who are less mobile than others
downs syndrome sufferers
You do not suffer disability - you live with it. ๐
You can call me Gay, Faggot, Ugly, Uncool, i can react to the contrary should I so wish, but some self appointed judge jury and executioner calling me racist and banning the use of a public forum because of his own personal and very probably contrived offence, I find personally very offensive.
You find it offensive when people call you racist?
Free speech. Not always a GoodThing.
why call it a disability at all? we are all just people, some are slightly different than others,surely that is all part of the rich pattern of life? this obsession with labelling and categorisation is half of the problem as soon as someone has a "label" it's easy for them to cease to be seen a person and just be seen as "the disabled"
Free speech. Not always a GoodThing.
ALWAYS a good thing otherwise we are no longer free.
tazzymtb - Member
sorry Derek you can't use "Lame" either as it's derogatory to those who are less mobile than others
Er yes, full irony was intended...
CharlieMungus - MemberYou find it offensive when people call you racist?
Er funnily enough I do, as I frequently entertain and ride with Muslim, Slav, Afro Caribean, Indian, suitors of my daughters as part of my family and frequently bear witness to genuine acts of racism against them and by them at times.
I hope this forum doesnt repersent the views of the rest of society i hate to think where we are going to be in 20 years, not allowed to tell knock knco jokes because they are offensive to people with no hands.
Soem people need to get out the Sweeney and professionals box set and get a life.
Now where is my Jerry Sadowitz DVD
knock knock jokes are also offensive to the homeless as they have no front door...SHAME ON YOU!
why call it a disability at all? we are all just people, some are slightly different than others,surely that is all part of the rich pattern of life? this obsession with labelling and categorisation is half of the problem as soon as someone has a "label" it's easy for them to cease to be seen a person and just be seen as "the disabled"
Well, 'disabled' is a reasonable term as some folks have a limitations on their avilities to function in the world as it is designed for the majority. Now we can argue about the source of the disability, the social model says that it is society which disables people. E.g. Someone in a wheelchair is disabled by stairs, not their inability to walk. After all if we designed access for wheelchairs then being in a wheelchair does not stop you from any function so there is no longer a disability
tazzy, I meant that sometimes it means you have to listen to utter bollocks.
Otherwise, stop being silly! ๐
Er funnily enough I do, as I frequently entertain and ride with Muslim, Slav, Afro Caribean, Indian, suitors of my daughters as part of my family and frequently bear witness to genuine acts of racism against them and by them at times.
Sticks and stones, Derek. Racist is just a name, i don't know why you let it bother you. It'snot meant to be offensive, it's just a descriptive term which reflects how people feel about you. Don't be so sensitve. I am however encouraged that you would defend our right to call you racist, because that's what you are.
stevewhyte - MemberI hope this forum doesnt repersent the views of the rest of society i hate to think where we are going to be in 20 years
I bluddy well hope not as well- I dispair at how insensitive, unthinking and bigoted many of the poster are
DD I'm terribly offended now and will gently weep into my pillow all night ๐ฅ
CharlieMungus - Member
Er funnily enough I do, as I frequently entertain and ride with Muslim, Slav, Afro Caribean, Indian, suitors of my daughters as part of my family and frequently bear witness to genuine acts of racism against them and by them at times.
Sticks and stones, Derek. Racist is just a name, i don't know why you let it bother you. It'snot meant to be offensive, it's just a descriptive term which reflects how people feel about you. Don't be so sensitve. I am however encouraged that you would defend our right to call you racist, because that's what you are.
It wasn't the action of name calling that offended me, it was the three day ban by the faceless hand wringer without recourse or question that offended me.
TandemJeremy - MemberI bluddy well hope not as well- I dispair at how insensitive, unthinking and bigoted many of the poster are
I try my best. ๐
Oh, sorry, just that when i asked if you found it offensive to be called that name, you said that you did. I'm sorry i'm a little bit foreign and sometimes struggle with the nuances of the English language. So you mean you are offended if someone treats you negatively because they think you are 'one of them'?
It's perfectly Ok for blacks to make jokes about blacks, handicapped people can joke about handicaps, fat people can joke about fatties. Self-derision doesn't normally cause offence so why is mong causing upset in this case?
That I've read this thread is highly reprehensible though. #sits on a drawing pin and logs off#
I dispair at how insensitive, unthinking and bigoted many of the poster are
to be fair they are usually a lot funnier than the great big wet hand wringing PC nazis and Victorian sensibilities brigade that you spear head TJ ๐
a lot funnier than the great big wet hand wringing PC nazis and Victorian sensibilities brigade that you spear head
Bigotry occurs on every side of every fence.
derek - you dont like the label racist but think you can use other derogatory labels without offending people ...have a think abut it and get back to us
Bigotry occurs on every side of every fence.
what fence?
the offence ?
PC nazis and Victorian sensibilities
Fantasic description - godwins law? ๐
tm ๐
it was the three day ban by the faceless hand wringer without recourse or question that offended me.
good - you probably deserved it given that IMO they allow far more to go on that is acceptable.
Junkyard - Member
derek - you dont like the label racist but think you can use other derogatory labels without offending people ...have a think abut it and get back to us
I don't like debating with grown men who think it's cool to wear lycra, i like it even less if they somehow think they can pass judgement on anything I might say or do..
I told you, i don't care what or how you label me, you don't actually know me or derek, but I wouldn't ban you from saying whatever you like about either of us, other than if you continued to press me to consider spandex in my immediate future..
I'd be interested to read how some of the muppets here even define racism yet condone the use of road wear on a mountain bike forum.
they allow far more to go on tha[s]t[/s]n [i]my personal opinion thinks[/i] is acceptable.
FTFY.
Your opinion is not the only one.
TandemJeremy - Member
it was the three day ban by the faceless hand wringer without recourse or question that offended me.
good - you probably deserved it given that IMO they allow far more to go on that is acceptable.
Yep, the same way you probably deserved to lose your job for spending too much time on here..
sorry, my mistake, I thought we could have a grown up conversation
Forgive me
they allow far more to go on thatn my personal opinion thinks is acceptable.
FTFY.Your opinion is not the only one.
Which makes it all the more strange that you 'fixed' it by taking out the 'IMO'.
Derek, have you been reading Dale Carnegie?
Something needs to be reported here.
Immagonna go with JY and TeeJ. For being horrible and racistist.
Hard to copy/paste on my tablet. Apologies.
My point remains, however. The least tolerant of other opinions/views tend to be those of the utopian left view on here. Any view that differs is treated with disdain.
Yep, the same way you probably deserved to lose your job for spending too much time on here..
Nice
FWIW i don't post from work - I got sacked last week.
Well, do take your time to correct it so that it makes sense, otherwise the FTFY is just wrong. You point was that it was only his opinion, but he had stated that it was his opinion. Was it just TJ bashing gone awry?
Wow! derek and ...erm.... Derek have made TJ likeable. Who would have guessed?.
Teej, is that serious? The getting sacked bit?
If so, really sorry to hear that. Have you got anything else lined up?