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Good grief, Passed the incident it was searching for on the way home. ๐
Jeez ๐
Houns+1
Not looking good at all ๐
Thats mental, hope no one is badly injured, seems unlikely though given its a Friday pay day in Glasgow
Sadly I can't see the crew coming out unscathed ๐
I know. Thoughts and prayers for all crew and persons in the pub.
Looks like Ill be a busy boy in the morning
Why not, I'm not sure that they're dead. It could have auto-rotated in, otherwise they'd mostly be pulling bodies out and there'd be nothing left of that pub.
Hope no one died.
Because it's upside down and through the roof ๐
I'd guess they were trying to bring it down on Glasgow Green but didn't make it
P.S. Didn't mean that they were dead, just not likely to be un-injured
It was also low with searchlight on over the Gorbals. They wouldn't have much time to autorotate anywhere.
I heard the bang from Govanhill.
Thoughts to all involved.
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Sounds like engine failure of some sort from eye witness reports.
Awful tragedy, and thoughts to those involved.
My first thought was that this was another ratings stunt like the train crash in Corrie, the plane crash in Emmerdale and numerous other soap opera gas explosions and crashes but it's definitely grimly real.
Jeez, that's looking grim.
Same aircraft (not sure on the variant) as the NHS Scottish Air Ambulance Service, wonder if they'll be temporarily grounded?
It's twin engine, wonder if they had simultaneous engine failure!
Not sure it could have been a simple engine failure as the eurocopter is a twin engine machine. In fact to fly over built up cities such as Glasgow or London you need by law to use a twin engine machine to minimise the risk of accidents like this.
I guess a catastrophic gearbox failure could have done it........horrible for all though.
edit - beaten to it!
Sad news however it happened.
Tragic... looks grim on the news this morning....
Awful.
I guess a catastrophic gearbox failure could have done it.
Sounds like it. Apparently it fell straight down. Very much like the N Sea Super Puma a few years ago.
Jeezo. Lot of friends and colleagues involved with this. Horrible horrible scenario.
Annoyed that I'm off sick at the mo and not able to help.
Thoughts are with all those caught up in this.
Just awful news thoughts are with anyone involved. ๐
3+ deaths.
Watching the reports on the BBC website.
Can't believe the neds laughing and gesturing behind the interviewee!
Arseholes.
Your not he only one to think that.
Hope it wasn't some Ned with a laser pen. Looks like the pilot was trying for the car park behind the pub. Sadly listing 3 people dead so far, doesn't look good for the crew ๐
Actually 1 confirmed fatality with more expected
[quote=Houns ]Hope it wasn't some Ned with a laser pen. Laser pens tend not to affect engines. Eye-witness reports are of intermittent/failing engine note.
Absolutely terrible. One poor guy on the BBC News said his dad was definitely in there when it happened, and they haven't heard from him since. Awful.
That's the second time. The police helicopter crashed into a block of flats on the southside of Glasgow around 1990.
tragic and surreal, pass by that pub everyday nearly. Thoughts are with every one concerned. Horrible.
I live 2 mins from this pub, pass it everyday on the way home, still finding the whole thing pretty surreal, my thoughts go out to all involved. I hear the helicopters most nights but last night I heard what I can only describe as a really low flying aircraft but thought nothing more about it till I got a phone call from my mum asking if we were safe..... The Clutha is a tiny pub but its always rammed shoulder to shoulder, I can't believe how it fell out the sky on top of it, it is the most concentrated volume of people in such a small area. There are flats and hotels near by but that pub would have been mobbed. There is a massive car park almost across the road , there is the river right next to it, glasgow green 100 yards away and even outside the pub there is a big box junction. It's insane it hit the pub with all the people and not one of the more open spaces right next to it!
Sounding like the last thing the pilot did was shut down the engines and isolate the fuel tanks.
Fair play.
Perhaps he thought it was a flat open area rather than the roof of a single storey building.
I guess we'll never know.
Tragic.
I read somewhere that there is speculation that possibily the pilot might have been aiming for the car park behind the clutha.
Hard to say without more info, but it's a logical thing to aim for, but that's on a presumption of having an element of control of direction, which accounts so far doesn't seem to suggest.
It's all speculation until they've inspected the flight recorder.
absolutely
It's all speculation until they've inspected the flight recorder, radio transcripts, maintenance records, wreckage, crash site and any other possible source of information
FTFY
Think that went without saying Winston but cheers.
Heard on radio 4 news that it doesn't have an in flight recorder on board - found that quite suprising
I think that it may be below the size requirement and it doesn't carry fare paying passengers? Just a guess?
[url= http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/ORS4%20989.pdf ]FDR exemption[/url]
It's exempt because of it's size. Quite surprising.
News report earlier said they the Police choose to equip them, suppose we'll find out.