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He’s apparently sworn ‘on his children’s lives’ that it wasn’t him or his staff.
Brave man trusting his children’s lives to his staff is all I can think.

Errr, I don't think if you swear on your kids lives and it turns out you're lying that your kids actually die.

Let's try it. "I swear on my kids lives that I'm making this post on Mumsnet, not Singletrack."

EDIT: Both still alive. Phew. It's almost as though "swear on my kids lives" means literally nothing.


 
Posted : 02/05/2019 9:55 am
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The Attorney General decides if an Official Secrets Act prosecution goes ahead in these circumstances.

Someone has to report the crime and provide some evidence first. I suspect the only evidence is that he had a conversation on the particular day with the journalist who broke the story. Evidence enough to sack, but good enough for a prosecution? Probably not.


 
Posted : 02/05/2019 9:57 am
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This isn’t about security. It’s about the proxy trade war between China and the US. Who’s side do we want to be on.

And he has to deny it, or he’s opening himself up to prosecution/jail.


 
Posted : 02/05/2019 10:47 am
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I loved Laura Kunesberg's comment about this "my way or the Huawei". Thats the internet won for this week.


 
Posted : 02/05/2019 10:47 am
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This isn’t about security. It’s about the proxy trade war between China and the US. Who’s side do we want to be on.

I suspect the timing of the sacking was about getting a 'Strong Prime Minister' story in the media on the day of the Local Elections.


 
Posted : 02/05/2019 10:57 am
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This isn’t about security. It’s about the proxy trade war between China and the US. Who’s side do we want to be on

That's certainly part of it but yes it's also very much about security.


 
Posted : 02/05/2019 10:57 am
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I loved Laura Kunesberg’s comment about this “my way or the Huawei”.

I'm waiting for "Huawei the lads!"


 
Posted : 02/05/2019 11:49 am
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I suspect the timing of the sacking was about getting a ‘Strong Prime Minister’ story in the media on the day of the Local Elections.

Are you trying to say that Theresa May cares more about political expediency than she does about justice? I'm shocked!!!


 
Posted : 02/05/2019 11:50 am
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How lobby journalists get their stories;

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2019/may/02/mps-to-debate-gavin-williamsons-sacking-after-speaker-grants-urgent-question-to-labour-live-news?page=with:block-5ccabc468f0812957927559c#liveblog-navigation

I’m sure that’s how it would have happened, whoever the leaker was, if it was Gavin Williamson, who we’ve all suspected it was in Westminster. We’ve done this for a while. That’s exactly how the conversations go. You don’t ring up a minister and say, ‘Will you leak this to me?’ You say to him, ‘”f I were to write, and I think that this happened, would I look particularly silly?” And then the minister says to you, “I don’t think you look silly, Tom, at the best of times”. And that’s the code we talk in. Or sometimes they say, “You do look particularly silly much of the time”. That’s the code. And that’s how it would have happened.


 
Posted : 02/05/2019 12:23 pm
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It takes a special kind of idiot to be sacked as a minister in a cabinet that also contains Chris Grayling


 
Posted : 02/05/2019 12:33 pm
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When you go around generally being as smug, smarmy and self-satisfied as Gavin Williamson clearly is, openly touting yourself as the next PM, bragging about how great you are at stitching people up using Machiavellian dark arts, then doing your frankly embarrassing international hard man act, then when people are looking for a scapegoat its surely inevitable that you're going to be pretty near the top of a lot of peoples hit-lists.

When you look at the present Tory front bench, its clearly going some to stand out as an even more odious little shit than the rest of them


 
Posted : 02/05/2019 12:37 pm
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I am at a loss to think of a more cringeworthy ministerial comment than 'go away and shut up', ever.
At least 'peace in our time' had a certain poetry to it.


 
Posted : 02/05/2019 1:47 pm
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How lobby journalists get their stories;

And as for swearing on the life of your kids, it's all a bit:


 
Posted : 02/05/2019 2:10 pm
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Ooh more network gear with back doors, better ban it from structural networks then.

Hang on it's Cisco again, as you were. Nothing to see here move along now.


 
Posted : 02/05/2019 2:41 pm
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Nothing to worry about here…

https://twitter.com/mrjamesmack/status/1124806934635450378?s=21

Add that to all the stories about him swinging a sword around the office. What the…?


 
Posted : 05/05/2019 10:44 am
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He probably emailed it from his official parliamentary account

From his brand new Huawei handset.


 
Posted : 05/05/2019 6:54 pm
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I’m waiting for “Huawei the lads!”

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Posted : 05/05/2019 11:18 pm
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