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 poah
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why would you want to claim you have it, thats just weird.

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Hush, adults are talking.

stop being a dick


 
Posted : 15/10/2015 4:37 pm
 grum
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Could you elaborate then on what you meant by: "But it seems pointing out stuff like that is deemed as borderline bullying or something." Who's deeming this? The people you told? I'd have thought that in the cases you describe they'd have been grateful?

Some people on here don't seem very pleased when you point stuff like that out and accuse you of saying things you haven't said. It's happened several times now, sometimes in quite an angry way.

Maybe I should pop round to my Asian neighbours with a home-made curry later, and not tell them it's pork dansak. I'm sure they'd all sit round and have a good laugh about it afterwards. It's only a choice, it's not like they're allergic to it or anything.

Asians don't eat pork?


 
Posted : 15/10/2015 4:45 pm
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you can claim to have it and it not be true though

Coeliacs aside, I'd hazard that the vast majority of people who claim to be gluten intolerant actually aren't. The point I was making about assumptions, however, was referring to the assumption that everyone is vegetarian through choice.

Asians don't eat pork?

Muslims don't. Sorry, should've been more specific, assumed it'd be obvious what I meant.


 
Posted : 15/10/2015 4:49 pm
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Cool. I wonder how typical that was / still is?

when it comes to deer hunting, there's still a huge amount of... dare i say, love? for the animal.

But, deer numbers have grown, this is widely acknowledged as causing a few problems, maybe there's more pressure to kill significant numbers than when i was a kid.


 
Posted : 15/10/2015 4:53 pm
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cougar got their first so what he said


 
Posted : 15/10/2015 4:54 pm
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The point I was making about assumptions, however, was referring to the assumption that everyone is vegetarian through choice.

Genuine question, not STW passive-aggressive bullshit... Who's vegetarian or vegan, [i]not[/i] through choice?


 
Posted : 15/10/2015 4:57 pm
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Sorry, should've been more specific, assumed it'd be obvious what I meant.

Well it was I guess, just thought it was a little lazy, especially when you were calling other people out for making assumptions.


 
Posted : 15/10/2015 5:01 pm
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Sikhs do it from duty
Some religious orders- Buddhists

Still quite probably choice in the broadest sense but i guess it is debatable/arguable [ what isnt on here ?]

Not sure you can be allergic to meat tbh
GOOGLED

Alpha - gal[meat allergy] means no red meat but they can eat fish and chicken - so they could be adversely affected by the said gravy

All these are tenuous though


 
Posted : 15/10/2015 5:01 pm
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People who are told to be, by their parents or religion perhaps? That's a bit wooly I know, but not everyone will have the freedom of choice.

I had a vegan friend who claimed she couldn't actually eat animal products, said it made her ill and was off work with "cross contamination" every five minutes. How much of that was down to not actually eating properly I don't know, though she did seem to have a balanced (if heavily restricted) diet. I have another mate who's properly, violently ill to seafood and a number of other products, he's not vegetarian but will tell restaurants he is sometimes to avoid being poisoned.

Anecdotal I know, I was really just saying that you don't know why people are the way they are, I'm guessing there might be all manner of other reasons more complicated than "because they want to," it seemed an oversimplification. Not really important in the grand scheme of things, I wish I'd never said it.


 
Posted : 15/10/2015 5:04 pm
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Some religious orders- Buddhists

I thought most Buddhists weren't vegetarian these days? Some sort of retcon to say they don't need to be if they're spiritually pure in other areas, or some such? Or is that just certain - I don't know the word sorry, streams / sects / variants?

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Posted : 15/10/2015 5:08 pm
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Genuine question, not STW passive-aggressive bullshit... Who's vegetarian or vegan, not through choice?

Most poor people in the world - they will eat very little meat because they can't afford it, and killing your animals for meat is plain stupid when you can rear them for milk and eggs instead.

Many Hindus are vegetarian because of religious belief - we can debate "choice" in this context.

So we're talking an awful lot of people...


 
Posted : 15/10/2015 5:30 pm
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Asians don't eat pork?

I've met quite a few Indian Hindus that don't either who were generally pretty secular in other ways so I don't think it's a hardcore thing.

Who's vegetarian or vegan, not through choice?

Some very poor people in third world countries probably rarely get meat, but that probably doesn't count because they'd eat it if it were there.


 
Posted : 15/10/2015 5:32 pm
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Most poor people in the world - they will eat very little meat because they can't afford it, and killing your animals for meat is plain stupid when you can rear them for milk and eggs instead.

That's not vegetarian, that's not having much meat. In the same way as just because I'm not getting any, doesn't make me celibate.


 
Posted : 15/10/2015 7:31 pm
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That's not vegetarian, that's not having much meat. In the same way as just because I'm not getting any, doesn't make me celibate.

You & me both mate! (but I did have a very nice chicken kiev from Weatherheads butchers in Pateley Bridge, for tea)


 
Posted : 15/10/2015 8:05 pm
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Just saw this nice bit of vegan trolling.
I really wish they hadn't fallen for it, but it's still pretty funny.

afaict the cafe doesn't actually exist, but hard to tell.

Please don't think we're all like that 🙂


 
Posted : 26/10/2015 2:45 pm
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In other news, maybe the vegans were right after all.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-34615621


 
Posted : 26/10/2015 3:18 pm
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Posted : 26/10/2015 3:33 pm
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afaict the cafe doesn't actually exist,
Oh I really hope it does
Dear Guests,

If you sit down at a dirty table when there are plenty of cleared tables available, my staff are within their rights to give you a little, but firm, smack across the back of the head.

Many thanks,

Paul Stenson

🙂 🙂 🙂


 
Posted : 26/10/2015 3:53 pm
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from reading it the café does exist it is an off shoot of his mum and dad's hotel . But his anti vegan riff is a massive troll.


 
Posted : 26/10/2015 5:00 pm
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