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Bunnyhop - I admire you for challenging this family (and I would probably have done the same) but nevertheless you have to wonder whether it's worth it. Some people are just too blinkered and stupid.
Having said that, I had a driver sound his horn at me in a petrol station last week. I went to explain why I was doing what I was doing and he blanked me. Oh yes, too frightened of a biddy like me! I muttered 'idiot' and that seemed to amuse others. 🙂
We came home one day to find an eastern european family picking Daffodils from along our driveway. The kids were really into it, and their parents looked really embarrassed and apologetic when we caught them. The flowers were just about over so we weren't too fussed, had they knocked on the door, we would more than likely would have said yes, go ahead. The thing about our Daffodils is we planted them all with our own hands. You wouldnt expect to go into someones garden and just help yourself to which ever flower you took a fancy to.
There is a lot of Holly which also lines our drive, our neighbours often ask if they can cut some around Christmas time.
[i]If eveyone picks them there soon are none left[/i]
TJ, in the case of Daffodils 'everyone' is/are NOT going to pick them are they? I know what your'e saying but it's hypothetical, Daffs are not going to vanish because of people picking them. If they were it would've happened by now.
I know what your'e saying though!
I too think its despicable to do this such act!a punishment would be a good thing to deal with such people who do this crime. 👿
wildflower should be left in it's natural enviroment and not picked by human scum.
TJ, in the case of Daffodils 'everyone' is/are NOT going to pick them are they?
Which is why the second conditional should have been used over the first. Poor and misleading use of english.
It's the kind of countryside nazi type of thing you'd hear from the anti-bike ramblers.
Well. That's Godwin.
End of thread.
North Sea Cod stocks on the other hand.......
Nazi - a bit stong there?
Possibly a bit.
The point is, they were doing no harm and probably having a lovely day out. Nobody with any sense of proportion is going to feel aggrieved at not seeing some (very common) flowers, so why poke your nose in?
Do you not believe in "live and let live"? Do you not have anything more pressing to fret about than some daffs?
The whole thing smacks of a daily mail rant.
[i]Which is why the second conditional should have been used over the first. Poor and misleading use of english.[/i]
What, no capital E for 'English'? shame on you, bog off back to spain.
Wahtever happened to " take nothing but photos, leave nothing but footprints"
It's never really existed, people have picked flowers, fruit for 1000 of years and used the countryside forever, I've heard people even ride bikes in it on trails cut into the countryside just for this. Wilful destruction is of course is a different kettle of fish but picking some flowers is pretty harmless. Granted in this case it sounds like it was over the top and given there was an adult there who was letting it happen makes it worse. Bravo for bunnyhop for defending what she thought was wrong but I'd not of for someone picking flowers.
wrecker - MemberNazi - a bit stong there?
Possibly a bit.
The point is, they were doing no harm and probably having a lovely day out. Nobody with any sense of proportion is going to feel aggrieved at not seeing some (very common) flowers, so why poke your nose in?
Do you not believe in "live and let live"? Do you not have anything more pressing to fret about than some daffs?
The whole thing smacks of a daily mail rant.
You make my heart glad, Wrecker.
wrecker - they are doing harm - they are taking the flowers away so no one else can enjoy them. Live and let live - the flower pickers ended that.
If its acceptable for one person to do this its acceptable for everyone and we end up with no wild flowers
By taking the flowering heads you still leave the bulb, which instead of putting energy into producing seeds will produce more flowers next year.
s'nature innit..
and to be honest.. I think the child innocently picking flowers is a more natural act than the auld geezers out for a jaunt on their technological masterpiece..
I understand that both are human acts and as such are both natural.. but the child would win by a strong margin in ecological top trumps
What, no capital E for 'English'? shame on you, bog off back to spain.
100% deliberate to show my lack of respect.
If its acceptable for one person to do this its acceptable for everyone and we end up with no wild flowers
Come off it TJ, if everyone can do something, they are is hardly a serious argument.
Everyne can smoke, but they don't.
Everyone can drink alcohol, but they're not alcoholics.
Stop trolling.
[i]100% deliberate to show my lack of respect.[/i]
Likewise.
[i] they are taking the flowers away so no one else can enjoy them[/i]
I make daisy chains, gather armfuls of nettles for tea, and I take thousands of blackberries every year.
If everyone agreed with TJ this forum would cease. But just like flowers aren't going to get wiped out by people picking them, this isn't going to happen.
If everyone agreed with TJ this forum would cease
It's a long shot, but it just might work....
Let's try it.
I make daisy chains, gather armfuls of nettles for tea, and I take thousands of blackberries every year.
Madam. You're worse than Hitler.
/invokes Godwin on oneself.
[i]If everyone agreed with TJ this forum would cease. But just like flowers aren't going to get wiped out by people picking them, this isn't going to happen[/i]
Think thats been mentioned before but TJ's not listening to it. 😉
spanish bloody trawlers in the North Sea are a different matter though. If they keep picking there'll be nowt left.
wrecker - they are doing harm - they are taking the flowers away so no one else can enjoy them. Live and let live - the flower pickers ended that.If its acceptable for one person to do this its acceptable for everyone and we end up with no wild flowers
Sounds like you've been out picking mushrooms TJ, not flowers 😕
Like Drac intimates, just another form of foraging, isn't it?
It's as natural to pick them as old people moaning, I always pick garlic flowers in season as theyre £9 for 15g to buy, I only pick enough for what I need and never from all in one spot. Garlic leaves get picked too for purée, but I guess I'd be judged badly for that too.
Mothers day and my wife's birthday next week, and her favourite flowers are daffs, must get out onto the SDW and see if I can get some, may even take the kids along.
Narcissi are not native to the British Isles. Your common daffodil is a hybrid of plants native to southern Europe and north Africa. By taking the flowering heads you still leave the bulb, which instead of putting energy into producing seeds will produce more flowers next year.
Good point, well made.
^ why thank you kind sir.
But is it enough to add some colour to TJ's black and white world
Sorry, but Narcissus pseudonarcissus is native to the UK: Geoffrey Grigson says so. And in case anyone's forgotten, the OP said the children were picking armfuls.
Why do people have flowers in vases?
Because they're nice to look at.
Therefore picking wild flowers reduces the enjoyment of everyone else.
So don't.
Why do people have flowers in vases?
Because they're nice to look at.Therefore picking wild flowers reduces the enjoyment of everyone else.
So don't.
Is it OK if I put the vase on a window sill? I live on a busy city centre street and I feel I'm bringing the beauty of the flowers to a whole new audience, like those city zoos. Or should we ban those too?
I enjoy looking at forests. The trees still get chopped down. I don't die.
TJ - where do you stand on brambling or picking elderflower for cordial or wine? That is something I not only do but encourage my kids to do. If everyone did it there would be a shortage - but they don't so there isn't. I'm not sure "harvesting" cut flowers is actually that different.
I remember when I was about 9 a group of children at my school went on the rampage in the dafodils kicking them down with their feet - bascially pure vandalism. That would be wrong, but cutting them and putting them inside, perhaps in a place where more people (school, church, old folks home, etc) will actually see and enjoy them. Since it was armfuls this sounds possible - unless of course they were going to flog them.
Do you think the "woman" in the original story has gone home raging tonight and posting on the internet? I doubt it. So you have lost by letting it get to you. She probably identified that you were a little 'unusual' from your choice of bike... ...people don't like "weirdos" talking to their kids so I can almost understand her attitude.
Do you not believe in "live and let live"?
i really struggle with that phrase - does it mean "readily accept what people do without regard to consequence to others"?
in this case the consequence isn't a big deal but it seems a bit sad when we simply accept the destruction of something beautiful, that could be shared, because one group of people don't have any appreciation that others might like to enjoy it
The children of today, picking daffodils will be foresters of the future, chopping down trees,
I enjoy looking at forests. The trees still get chopped down. I don't die.
Is there a point to that post?
Stands corrected, there is a native narcissus. Were the flowers picked of this species?
My other point still stands.
was the op wearing lycra? could easily be mistaken for a pederast.
in this case the consequence isn't a big deal but it seems a bit sad when we simply accept the destruction of something beautiful, that could be shared, because one group of people don't have any appreciation that others might like to enjoy it
Like fox hunting, perhaps.
One point not yet raised is that by allowing ones' little darlings to pick huge armfulls of pretty flowers, you are giving them carte blanche to help themselves to other, perhaps much rarer plants in the future.
I kind of thought it was accepted wisdom (amongst those with half a civilised brain) not to go around picking wild flowers, and most especially not to rip up massive, greedy armfulls, so I'm saddened and perplexed by a good many of the responses 🙁 By the sounds of the lady in the OP, I very much doubt she was taking the kids round any hospitals or old folks homes...
Woman, gets up and storms off and shouts to me 'gerrra life'.
but cutting them and putting them inside, perhaps in a place where more people (school, church.....
see "gerra life" actually meant join me in church
poly - MemberTJ - where do you stand on brambling or picking elderflower for cordial or wine? That is something I not only do but encourage my kids to do. If everyone did it there would be a shortage
Fine - you are not depriving anyone else of the beauty of seeing them.
Different to the flowers
Is there a union to protect the rights of Daffodils.
Fine - you are not depriving anyone else of the beauty of seeing them.Different to the flowers
I thought it was illegal. I could have sworn I've read it somewhere. 😕
^different to the elderflowers TJ.
Daffodils do not suffer and die from having their flowers picked. It is common practice to dead-head narcissus to promote more flower growth in the following season.
The plural of narcissus is narcissi.
This is important.
Yes I know see my first post