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The room needed time to reset and he said he’d help keep the the Romulans at bay to give it enough time.
that’s what’s known as a Macguffin. It’s a tool used by shit writers, which this show seems to have in spades 😂

I bet they’d just re-watched S1 of Game of Thrones and thought they’d recreate Syrio Forel‘s poignant death. Unfortunately they failed because no-one actually cares about any of their rubbish characters.

I actually thought this episode was an improvement though (that’s not really saying much mind 😀)


 
Posted : 01/03/2020 9:49 pm
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Star Trek acknowledges and expresses alcoholism and depression shocker pleasant surprise.


 
Posted : 01/03/2020 9:50 pm
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Just watched Charlie's Angels. Very hard to differentiate between Picard and Bosley.


 
Posted : 01/03/2020 9:59 pm
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That was a much better episode!


 
Posted : 14/03/2020 3:56 pm
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the images from the admonition vision

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Posted : 15/03/2020 12:14 am
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7D was incredibly well hidden then...


 
Posted : 15/03/2020 9:48 am
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The scene with the all the holograms was a new low . Rest of the episode was better .


 
Posted : 15/03/2020 10:24 am
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I found the scene with the holograms amusing.


 
Posted : 15/03/2020 11:12 am
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How do we know that the captain isn’t an Emergency Hologram Captain?
Seemed to cover more in that episode than several of the last.

What a co-incidence the captain they charter had met another version of Darj/Soji.


 
Posted : 15/03/2020 12:33 pm
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7D was incredibly well hidden then…

I had to go back a look for it after somebody mentioned it but it's definitely there, 3:38 ish.


 
Posted : 15/03/2020 6:49 pm
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Good episode I thought, OK the humorous/cheesy side shows like the hologram interactions isn't great but that's always been part of Star Trek.

Although now I don't know whether the Romulans are the actually good guys saving us all from AI annihilation...


 
Posted : 17/03/2020 9:35 am
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And the engineering holo had a bad Scots accent as well...


 
Posted : 17/03/2020 10:25 am
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Although now I don’t know whether the Romulans are the actually good guys saving us all from AI annihilation…

I thought it was saving us from something else so terrible that it turns you mad enough to blow your own brains out that arrives when AI passes a "sentient" tipping point


 
Posted : 17/03/2020 10:27 am
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I thought it was saving us from something else so terrible that it turns you mad enough to blow your own brains out that arrives when AI passes a “sentient” tipping point

Are the Romulans trying to protect civilization from awful script writing and turgid acting? Because if so, they have my full support.


 
Posted : 17/03/2020 10:30 am
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Although now I don’t know whether the Romulans are the actually good guys saving us all from AI annihilation…

I thought it was saving us from something else so terrible that it turns you mad enough to blow your own brains out that arrives when AI passes a “sentient” tipping point

Didn't Picard use the word "believe" that AI was a bad thing, in the context that the romulans wanted to make sure they were not around. The images giving through the mind meld process were fabrications to keep the illusion / agenda going..


 
Posted : 17/03/2020 10:31 am
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I might have misunderstood but when the group are sitting around the table discussing the alignment of the planets and the Admonition, it was compared to the Zephram Cochrane warp drive moment - create a sufficiently evolved AI and "someone shows up". Is it possible that there is another, as yet unidentified group, that is acting as some sort of inter-galactic police force, simply wiping out civilizations that get to this threshold rather than the AIs themselves?


 
Posted : 17/03/2020 10:47 am
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Is it possible that there is another, as yet unidentified group, that is acting as some sort of inter-galactic police force, simply wiping out civilizations that get to this threshold rather than the AIs themselves?

That's how I understood it.


 
Posted : 17/03/2020 11:17 am
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Did the haters not watch TNG, DS9 and Voyager? This is more of the same, including hologram nonsense and ill fitting characters. Great stuff IMO.


 
Posted : 17/03/2020 12:43 pm
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My missus is a huge Trekkie (you don't even want to know about the Las Vegas exhibition embarrasment...) but we have to watch each epiosde twice becuase she bascially falls asleep the first time and we 'recap' again the following Friday before the next episode, which is not really a good sign.

We're swapping between Picard on a Friday and catching up with Discovery Season 2 during the week - can't get much different in terms of plot speed. My heads frazzled after Discovery, and just numbed after Picard.

I suspect in hindsight, Picard would be a good series if they edited out an episode or twos worth out.


 
Posted : 17/03/2020 12:56 pm
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And the engineering holo had a bad Scots accent as well…

a fine Star Trek tradition.


 
Posted : 17/03/2020 1:00 pm
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Well. It’s there ready to go. The last episode.
I’ll save it for tonight but please tie all together and don’t do a big hanging ending. I’m looking at YOU Mandalorian.


 
Posted : 27/03/2020 11:10 am
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Is there not a second series being made?


 
Posted : 27/03/2020 11:15 am
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I'd be incredibly surprised of everything was wrapped up and concluded


 
Posted : 27/03/2020 11:17 am
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Yeah, series 2 due in January 2021


 
Posted : 27/03/2020 11:30 am
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Yeah, series 2 due in January 2021

Incurable brain condition notwithstanding


 
Posted : 27/03/2020 11:43 am
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I’d be incredibly surprised of everything was wrapped up and concluded

Prepare to be surprised.

Incurable brain condition notwithstanding

You've not watched it yet then.


 
Posted : 27/03/2020 12:18 pm
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Well, that was good, if predictable from the exposition scene halfway through...


 
Posted : 27/03/2020 4:30 pm
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My missus is a huge Trekkie (you don’t even want to know about the Las Vegas exhibition embarrasment…)

Oh, I absolutely do.

I went to Vegas a good few years back for a friend's wedding. I was on a tight budget and Vegas is the most hateful place in the world when you don't have much spare cash (and arguably even if you do). The Star Trek Experience was easily the best thing about the place, and Quark's Bar was both really cool and the cheapest place we'd found to drink in the city.

One time they had Klingons wandering around providing atmosphere, one said to me "you have the hair of a warrior!" I was like "oh, er, thanks" and then he followed up with "... shame about the beard though."


 
Posted : 27/03/2020 4:37 pm
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Really enjoyed that AND got my wish of a non cliffhanger finale.


 
Posted : 27/03/2020 11:16 pm
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Agreed, was good. Predictable outcome but still very enjoyable.


 
Posted : 28/03/2020 12:12 am
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I'm ambivalent about the ending. Felt like they started the series too slow, and then ran out of time in the last few episodes with some serious explanation missing.

A braver approach would have been to commit to one season of 20 episodes, flesh out the appalling plot holes, and let it finish at the natural point about ten minutes earlier than it does.


 
Posted : 28/03/2020 9:51 am
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I really liked it. Good flow and a decent ending. Very much a continuation of TNG and Voyager. Mild spoiler, with that ending they've now got a ship and a rag-tag crew. Perfect for a series of one off episodes and two parters like trek of old. Not everything has to be a single story box set


 
Posted : 28/03/2020 10:02 am
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Perfect for a series of one off episodes and two-parters like trek of old. Not everything has to be a single story box set

I agree with this, I found at times this was dragged out and the ending was predictable.

Sounds like I'm completely panning it but overall I did enjoy the series and do like the characters.


 
Posted : 28/03/2020 10:48 am
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Characters were great but it did feel like the producers were skilled at pressing buttons as hard as they could and felt like that was what was needed.  It was a fun journey but not really sure I'd want to go down that road again


 
Posted : 28/03/2020 5:18 pm
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That was ace! Only just got Amazon Prime back, so could watch the two part finale after seeing the rest months ago. Worth the wait. Lovely ending.

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Yes the golem stuff was obviously coming (earlier in the series I was wondering if he wasn’t already a synthetic anyway, but didn’t know yet, like all the other Bladerunner stuff), but making it Data’s true ending I did not see coming. Moving.

Quark’s Bar was both really cool and the cheapest place we’d found to drink in the city.

That made me smile.


 
Posted : 18/04/2020 7:30 pm
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Having reflected on this over the last few weeks (mainly getting to Friday and not having a reason to switch the TV on), I'm fine with the series and how it ended and probably won't be watching the next one as I suspect it will be a 1-episode-a-story type stuff that I'll be able.to dip into whenever after it has been shown.
I did enjoy it but it ended at a good point to end (for me).


 
Posted : 18/04/2020 8:12 pm
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