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Yeah same a bit. Not enough lasers this week, and JLP acting like Kenny Everett's Marcel Marceau was pretty crap.
the whole “synthetic/biffing a romulan dude/chosen one/destroyer/sliding in a borg hallway in our socks” storyline insufferable
You're not alone but I'm struggling through, knowing the payoff when he's torn limb from limb by a reanimated Borg will be all the better for it.
I lost track of the plot a few episodes back so it's just random scenes of sci-fi for me. Mostly quite entertaining. The atrocious French accent was atrocious.
If Raffi calls him JL one more time then i'm oot. I hope they kill her off at some point. Pretty dull last couple of episodes, I hope it gets better soon.
How many times do we have to watch a back story?
Anyway it was a bit more Next Gen this week with the bar scene, just as cheesy and badly acted too.
The prosthetics are the worst part for me. Seven looks like she’s had bits of foam or plastic glued to her. I’m guessing it’s supposed to be metal? That lizard man looked like his face was made from papier-mâché. Did they have a deal with a local primary school for the FX!
The Elf who seems to have walked on to the set straight from Middle Earth is odd too.
Yeah I did laugh at those too.
Yep, bit lame last night. Ohh look the cybernetics Doctors working for someone else, at least make the spy in the team a surprise. Ninja/Samurai/Romulan/Elf Assassin seems a bit of a random bolt on. Better pick up soon or it'll go the way of Enterprise.
the bar scene, just as cheesy and badly acted too.
You're thinking about it wrong. It's much better to believe that it was some great actors playing some ordinary people trying to act, but doing a bad job. If you think about it like that, it deserves a clean sweep of the acting awards.
I'm 4 episodes in. Got to say I'm a bit disappointed. I wouldn't describe myself as a huge trek fan, but I did watch TNG when it was on and a couple of the films I think.
When I saw this advertised, I was hoping for something a bit grittier I think, some sort of deeper drama/character study with a sci-fi edge to it, rather than just an extended episode of the NG. It just feels a bit naff, warrior nuns.... Who really like telling the truth!? We really need that one too come with us, he's dead good at martial arts... in a universe of spaceships and blasters.
I'm pretty sure Patrick Stewart is a terrible actor after seeing this as well.
I'll keep watching it though, gives me something else to moan about and I bloody love moaning.
You’re thinking about it wrong. It’s much better to believe that it was some great actors playing some ordinary people trying to act, but doing a bad job. If you think about it like that, it deserves a clean sweep of the acting awards.
No, there was more than them in the scene and they weren’t always in disguise. The ridiculous French accent was clearly meant to be just that so you’re partially right.
I think ep5 was an improvement in plot advancement and some characters development and maybe a step back for others...
The AI doctor lady is a conflicted baddie now (excellent move IMO) Raffi is an estranged from her son, crackhead, conspiracy nut (explains a bit), Rios did a bit more (OK maybe not a hologram).
Seven was a guest star, possibly a recurrent character, it was OK, squeezed in some voyager based nostalgia for those that might want it and explained the "rangers" a bit more.
But why did Legolas suddenly become an idiot? Last week he's a badass, Romulan, ninja-elf this week he can't quite grasp "pretending"? Weak.
The atrocious French accent was atrocious.
Definitely the best bit of the the episode. An English man who played a French character for almost two decades on and off without ever changing his accent, finally breaks out the Franglais as a pretend space pirate, and its awful! We'll let him off though, cos' it's Patrick innit.
But why did Legolas suddenly become an idiot? Last week he’s a badass, Romulan, ninja-elf this week he can’t quite grasp “pretending”? Weak.
Isn’t he an honorary truth nun or something? Not that that’s a great excuse mind.
Romulan, ninja-elf this week he can’t quite grasp “pretending”? Weak.
I assumed this was because his upbringing involved never lying so it was all a bit strange for him.
And I also though the Patrick Stewart accent thing was Picard hamming it up badly. It was both grating and amusing at the same time.
I didn't think the episode moved the plot along much though, especially if it turns out Seven was only in it for this episode.
I’m pretty sure Patrick Stewart is a terrible actor after seeing this as well.
Unfortunately it's stuff like this that makes you forget how good he was in Logan, or as Bullock in American Dad
Dunno what you lot are moaning about, it's Star Trek FFS, what did you expect
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Not a Star Trek fan so I'm loving it.
Exactly Sirromj it was always baldy acted and cheesy as hell but entertaining.
The Englishman playing a Frenchman, playing a Frenchman wearing an eye patch badly is brilliant and could have have happened years ago on the holodeck. Remember how awful the Irish village in Voyager was? At least this time it's being done with humour and Rios got to dress up like Matt Berry in House of Fools.
I always assumed Star Trek was supposed to have ropey effects, makeup and acting. Like a soap opera in space, so no budget and actors who couldn’t get work anywhere else. Patrick Stewart being the exception that proves the rule on the acting front.
I assumed this was because his upbringing involved never lying so it was all a bit strange for him.
No he was raised to believe in "total candor" i.e. Always telling the truth, for which, of course, you need the capacity to understand what an untruth is. It is just a bit of poor writing, but it's not really a biggie. I just don't see how slow on the uptake, yet utterly deadly in close combat makes for a good warrior nun/monk character.
I am enjoying picard plenty though, it's basically "dystopian trek", Well a bit more dystopian than TOS/TNG tended to be. Where a well intentioned citizen from the "civilized" bit of the alpha-quadrant (federation) finds himself rubbing up against the Balkanised fringes of the Romulan empire/former neutral zone. A good old fashioned clunky Trek allegory for the modern world...
It was a bit of a struggle that episode, bit late now, but the second half of this season needs to be a bit more direct, the weird thing for this show is that it could have been released all in one, making episodes like this and the last minor issues, but as a weekly show it means any slackness or indirect stuff and it gets poor reviews, i can't understand why Amazon didn't release it all at once if any of their executives saw it prior to release, there's too much character development, backstory and flashbacks.
I’m a bit meh about it, one plus point it’s encouraged me to rewatch Discovery. I gave up on that after a few episodes but have started again.
I've obviously not watched enough of the old stuff to get how all the characters work - I thought 7 wasn't from TNG, so I've no idea how everyone knows about her (suspect there will be a story arc that Picard learned of her whilst he was Borg to answer that).
Also no idea who Raffi is and how she fits in to knowing Picard so well when I thought Frakes was his number 1 and close colleague all the way.
CBS is doing the show - don't think it is an Amazon thing, so suspect CBS is trying to control the show broadcasts like they do for the rest of their stuff - why offer it all in a oner on Amazon when their own site only does 1 episode a week (and you need to subscribe to see it on that)?
Given Patrick Stewart is an Executive Director and Jonathon Frakes is the Director, I'm not really surprised it is so TNG-like...
I think after TNG, Frakes went into directing more than acting. Stewart’s title is more of an honoury one to get a bit more dosh/ incentive to come on board after saying no for so many years.
Absolutely - I suspect they were beating Shatner back with a stick as he'd have been offering it for free if the show had his (character's) name!!!
7 of 9 is from Voyager, they rescued her from the Borg and she became part of the crew, Voyager did actually make it back home.
The characters they played in the club were meant to be flamboyant and over the top.
I suspected Voyager did make it back but I now have questions about the timeline - how long did it take them to get back and where do they sit against Enterprise (and Picard's Enterprise) - that was the one that was meant to be on the deep space mission and all that (Voyager went deeper due to whatever it was that sucked them in - wormhole?)...
Voyager was thrown onto the Delta Quadrant by the Caretaker. The timeline is the same as Deep Space Nine and TnG
Did anyone else notice that Quark the Ferengi was used as the reference for the meeting in the bar?
I think Janeway, the Voyager captain, was in one of the Picard Star Trek movies.
i can’t understand why Amazon didn’t release it all at once if any of their executives saw it prior to release
Because they don't own it and didn't make it.
Star Trek is a CBS property and they're banking on Discovery, Picard and a couple of other hinted at spin offs saving their US subscription service. Seeing as the rest of the world doesn't matter it's sold to amazon (and others) for wider distribution 24hrs after the Yanks get it.
One other theory is that by sticking with the weekly release format the producers can review the online fan whingers and edit/reshoot later episode to somehow placate the various haters. TBH that's a load of bobbins spouted by incel, minor corporate, conspiracy loving weirdos...
Seven was a guest star, possibly a recurrent character, it was OK, squeezed in some voyager based nostalgia for those that might want it and explained the “rangers” a bit more
That was blatantly a backdoor pilot for a series with Seven Of Nine being a one-cyborg version of the A-Team.
It just feels a bit naff, warrior nuns…. Who really like telling the truth!? We really need that one too come with us, he’s dead good at martial arts… in a universe of spaceships and blasters.
Also we know they're going to a borg cube, the borg never could adapt to physical things so might be useful, by pure luck the they picked up the nunja on the way...
I've not seen this weeks yet, so possibly obviously bunkum by now but I'm going to guess the big secret the romulans are hiding is the borg aren't really from the delta quadrant, they're an ancient romulan invention, like veeger in which ever shatner era film that was
The very first film and was Voyager...a satellite sent from Earth.,.
That was blatantly a backdoor pilot for a series with Seven Of Nine being a one-cyborg version of the A-Team.
Which would go down a storm TBF, seven was the character brought in to save the then failing voyager series, and did. The fanbois would definitely tune in to watch her hunt space baddies rather than Harry Kim and his clarinet...
I suspected Voyager did make it back but I now have questions about the timeline – how long did it take them to get back and where do they sit against Enterprise (and Picard’s Enterprise) – that was the one that was meant to be on the deep space mission and all that (Voyager went deeper due to whatever it was that sucked them in – wormhole?)…
Voyager made it back quite quickly really, thanks to some irresponsible time travel shinanigans by a future admiral Janeway and making use of borg transwarp tunnels.
Strangely enough starfleet still make Janeway an admiral (she sends Picard off on a mission at the start of nemisis) so voyager manage to miss the dominion war and I think the second borg attack on earth (first contact) but they were back just after that...
I’ve not seen this weeks yet, so possibly obviously bunkum by now but I’m going to guess the big secret the romulans are hiding is the borg aren’t really from the delta quadrant, they’re an ancient romulan invention, like veeger in which ever shatner era film that was
Hmmmm, I did think there might be some ancient borg connection worked into the plot, my money is on a Discovery tie in, to do with the future AI they were supposedly battling across time? Dunno that whole thread was left a bit fuzzy, mostly to justify another series?
I'm slightly worried this (newly invented?) deep, ancient Romulan "loathing" of artificial life is some sort of Trek-skynet thing and we're headed for a sci-fi mashup with time travelling robots vs... Pike paired up with Sisco maybe? Why not squeeze everyone in to these fantasy plots?
I'm enjoying it so far (but perhaps giving it more leeway than I would other Sci-Fi series). The last episode I was mostly thinking "wtf, that's Deanna Troi - stop pretending you don't know each Picard!" but apparently it wasn't - so confused :p
The bar scene and dressing up like 70s pimps was an abysmal idea for plot writing.
Nice teleporter/portal but Why did he leave the ninja nun behind?
The Borg get reactivated and discover ninja and Huw and realise that the machine isn't the answer as they have 2 examples of 'perfection' without assimilation...
Perhaps, but suspect it'll be down to some mince about not enough power to transport them all to safety.
I'm still loving this.
Perhaps, but suspect it’ll be down to some mince about not enough power to transport them all to safety.
It wasn’t exactly clear was it. Although after they’d left Huw did say they’d need time to shut everything down to remove any trace of where Picard had gone.
Eh? I thought it was pretty clear. The room needed time to reset and he said he'd help keep the the Romulans at bay to give it enough time.
I must have tuned out slightly for that bit