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Surely ten quid a week doesn't get you that far on a bus, cyclescheme?
Joat, thats what i was thinking.
This may mark me out as a dick,
But, would i **** go out of my way in the car to save someone else the cost of running their own car.
My experience of people who do this is they are users, if you stop them using you, they will just move on to using someone else.
Tell him you're going down to one car and you will be cycling to work.
Offer to swing by his and ride in with him, see how keen he is then.
Obviously, if its a mate, or its a one off, then that's different eh.
If he lived on your route to work I would see charging as being a bit tight. Going out of your way definitely means he should at least be offering to pay though. I'd bring up payment the next time you give him a lift. What's the worst that can happen?
If you can bare the company and the diversion, ask for £5-10 per week.
Or say the lift is from and to your driveway.
Or say you are going to cycle commute for the summer.
Think of the opportunity to nuture a seething ball of resentment and all the water cooler bitching, not to mention the passive aggressive lack of acknowledgement as he gets out of the and the **** you wheelspin from the drop off. Not to be wasted.
You can't put a price on some alone time listening to some of your favorite tunes.
And..givers have to set boundaries because takers won't.
I used to take my cousins bf to work. Picked him up from the side of the road that I pass and dropped him off where I work (2 mins from his work place) so wasn't going out of my way. He used to give me £5 per week which I think was fair. After a couple of months he would only pay every other Friday if I was lucky, started being late on a morning too but the final straw was asking if I could take him to the paper shop on a morning sometimes making me late. Tried speaking to him about it but got a bit of attitude. The following Monday I drove straight past him as he stood there on the roadside in the pissing down rain. That was the last time he ever got a lift form me bloody free loader
If it was me I would first ask him to meet you somewhere on your usual route. Tell him if he isn't there on time you will not be stopping.
If you like him and are not going outside your usual route I wouldn't ask for money. Be the bigger man.
However if it goes on for a couple of months and still nothing offered I would just make an excuse and not take him any more. You will feel no guilt in doing so and know you are the good not mean one.
He's had to get rid of a car, and is relying on favours to get to work.
Maybe cash is a bit tight at the moment?
However, I think that he's probably the best person to ask and a fiver to ten pounds a week depending on how far it is to work would be what I would expect to have to contribute.
I used to go an hour out of my way giving someone a lift home at a weekend. I just asked for my fuel to be covered.
One weekend he said I was ripping him off (I if anything I just about broke even petrol wise and I had an extra hour on my journey). I said fine then I won't take you. It took him 3x the time and about 4x the cost to get home via the train 😆
He came crawling back, I agreed to give him a lift again, but I didn't go out of my way I dropped him en-route, where someone else had to collect him.
Some people can be ungrateful dicks.
Colleague is indeed an ungrateful dick
problem is; once you have to ask for cash, there become a commitment (of a type) from your side to provide a service..
£10 a week. He's not out of pocket, and the bonus for him is he hasn't got to sit on the bus
+1
Colleague is indeed an ungrateful dick
To the OP and Marge - just stop doing it then.
If I was the recipient I would be very grateful, and you wouldn't need or wan't to ask for cash. If either have not behaved like that, then just withdraw the service.
Video the journeys and make money on a YouTube channel and possible TV show of car sharing. Except maybe a bit dull with the same guy every day.
A decent person would say at the end of the lift/week " cheers for that what do I owe you?" you would reply either " nothing mate it is no problem I drive in anyways" or " how does a fiver or tenner sound towards the fuel".
Sadly in life there are givers and takers and takers are defo outnumbering givers.
A prime example is when you start a big round in the pub it gets back round to you, you buy again the next thing half the round has left and you only get a couple back. Amazingly its the same ones that get just the one round every time, we all know one!!!
What's the etiquet with hitchers?
Whilst I usualy give them a lift when driving, I seem in a minority that offers at least a token ammount for stopping.
What's the etiquet with hitchers?
I haven't seen a hitcher in years. Are they still a thing?
Wait until 2 days after payday. If he hasn't offered by then he's not going to. Like above, if it was me you were giving a lift to you wouldnt have to ask.
I drive on average 4 hours a day to and from work alone. Audio books and music chill me out from the traffic. If your like me and like your "me" time alone in the vehicle then stop the car sharing. £10 is peanuts, not worth the intrusion.
Has the OP been stabbed by his hitchhiker?
It's a few mornings a week and once in the evening so not too demanding but makes a cost hard to define unless it's always the same number of trips - or just say £1 per trip?
I would pick someone up for work, at first they wanted a lift home to the door, which was 16 mile round trip for me, work was only 15 miles away. They had they're own car but weren't confident to drive,so I would pick them up from an agreed meeting place.
They almost had a hairy fit when I finally asked them to chip in for petrol (they bought someone else beer for giving them the odd lift now and again and I got nowt for a regular lift)
Wouldn't have been so bad, but they pleaded poverty constantly and it turns out (they're boasting confirmed it) that they were sitting on 40k in cash and just spent 10 on a new car..... Needless to say they don't take a lift now
Start cycling in?
Personally I wouldn't go much out of my way on a regular basis, even for petrol money, but I might suggest they meet me on my route, and they need to be there by a certain time to get a lift, and get dropped off at the same point.
This is peak singletrack. He should of offered, and you shouldn't accept. Then he should buy you a coffee, buy you a bottle of wine as a token of gratitude.
[i]This is peak singletrack: He should [/i][s]of[/s] have [i] offered[/i]
fd3chris - MemberI drive on average 4 hours a day to and from work alone.
Well thanks for clogging up our roads and polluting our air.
Perhaps you could change your lifestyle so you could afford to live closer to work, or work closer to home.
Now [i]that's[/i] peak singletrack. 😉
Odd that the OP's not been back, considering his usual posting rate.
Best solution is surely starting to cycle to work, though obviously he should do the right thing and offer the colleague a backie.
I'm still alive !
To confirm its been a few months, not once offered.
For the record I don't need the money its the principle involved, I asked him today about contributing, he actually thought I was joking and that I benefited him coming in early some days, told him that was ridiculous, he now knows how I feel, will see what happens over next few days.
Months? Tell him to do one.
And this whole dilemma is why I have never car shared on a regular basis.
Don't mind giving a lift on occasion, I often offer on a 1 off basis, but hate the pressure from a regular basis
Suits some folks but I just don't like the unwritten / unspoken assumptions on both sides.
How far is the journey?
Months!!! You've been waaay too nice.
I used to get a lift of someone on a semi regular basis, it was a teeny detour for her & she didn't ask me to cough up. Every so often I gave her a bottle of (very good) plonk in return.
Journey is 7 miles through London about 35mins
Journey is 7 miles through London about 35mins
Have you heard about these newfangled velocipedes?
7 miles. Through London. In a car?
Seriously?
almost tempted to send OP donations/coffee momey just for the reduction in fumes and traffic.
Personally I'd be wanting substantially more than a fiver or tenner per week. Even if he covers half your fuel bill, he is still not having to splash out on the other running costs of a car. Add in the fact that you lose your peace and quiet, and that he is taking the pee, I would nip it in the bud.
Plus what Flashy says!
Have you heard about these newfangled velocipedes?
I sure have...I'm involved in the cycle industry but due to ongoing (4yrs) slip disc riding a bike is out for the forseeable future. My colleague (I'm actually his boss) also can't ride due to injury...
thanks for all advice etc- as said its the principle not the money.
[quote=unfitgeezer ]My colleague (I'm actually his boss)
The thread which keeps on giving
To be honest, if you are his Boss it does change the balance a bit. However, I think most people would still offer?
I maybe his boss but that should make no difference its principles and I'm hardly Richard Branson
1) When he comes in early some days, is he actually very productive or just tossing it off at the water cooler until his official start time?.
2) Do you own the business and therefore may gain in some small way or are you the guys line manager and therefore don't gain personally by him coming in early?.
Anyway, he's shown his colours IMO and I would tell him to catch the bus and be in on time, no more convenient free taxi.
Journey is 7 miles through London about 35mins
I used to work in London and I didn't know anyone who drives to work?
Are you sure you're not Richard Branson?
The public transport coverage is so good tell him to **** himself and get the bus or tube.
I asked him today about contributing, he actually thought I was joking and that I benefited him coming in early some days
Brass. Neck.
Cheeky pisstaker, that one.
Update please.
Is he paying his way or getting the bus now?
Sack him. Sorted.
When is his annual performance appraisal?