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if did it again, there would be consequences

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Posted : 06/08/2016 4:00 pm
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Not my exact words bongohoohaa, I can't remember them. But if I did I'm sure you'd have some kind of trouser accident.

Also forgot to add I trane UFC, so the advice for the OP is to make his wife trane UFC.


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 4:09 pm
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Bit of a moral maze, this one. I'm not against dogs but domesticated pets behave like their owners. Sqiirty water sounds like the best option at this juncture.


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 4:18 pm
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Also forgot to add I trane UFC, so the advice for the OP is to make his wife trane UFC.

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Posted : 06/08/2016 4:45 pm
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As a sensible answer, citronella should work. Dogs don't like the smell.
And of the other more intrusive and violent methods mention hear, just show there are as many bike owners who are knobs as dog owners ....


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 4:49 pm
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Jimjam, you could've avoided having to prove how manly you were by slowing down so you could stop in a controlled manner rather getting wiped out. That's what I'd do but I'm happy being an unhurt beta, rather than a self righteous alpha with a scabby knee. Oh no, I'm blaming the victim... no I'm not people need to use their common sense.
EDIT clearly you were out of control as you couldn't perform an emergency stop. You were going too fast for the situation


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 5:02 pm
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I was recently bitten on my way to the bus stop by the dog of a terribly polite and apologetic lady out running with pooch. At least there is some balance in the world!


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 5:06 pm
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Tried to edit my last post to include this but ran out of time. Just to elaborate about people having priority, I was riding on the towpath (good 12 ft wide section) a few months back when I came up behind a big guy walking a little terrier. I rang the bell, gave a shout but he was on his phone didn't notice me.
His dog was by his feet but on a huge lead. Sure enough as I went to go around the dog ran from his side of the path right across and under my wheels, wiping me out.
Lot's of screaming and expletives (from him). "You hurt my *ing dog". Did you hit my *ing dog you *"?
I calmly explained that his dog ran in front of me and was out of control.
"You're out of control you
*ing ****"!! etc etc

I went to get back on my bike, he then pulls me by my camelbak and screams about how I'm not going anywhere until he calls the police. At this point I (still calm) told him that was assault, if did it again, there would be consequences, and he could phone the police if he wanted to but I was leaving.
By this stage he is actually frothing, and screams "Assault, I'll assault you alright...my dog blaaaaah" and he was a big boy, maybe 6'1 certainly 18 or 19stone, and I was late for work. So I grabbed his wrist and collar, pulled him off balance, fainted a leg sweep and I saw the fight just go out of him, and he shut up, which was lucky for both of us.

I would have just slowed down and said hello to the dog but then I am not an internet hard man.


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 5:11 pm
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Jimjam, you could've avoided having to prove how manly you were by slowing down so you could stop in a controlled manner rather getting wiped out.

I would have just slowed down and said hello to the dog

Really guys? What speed was I traveling ? 😆

but then I am not an internet hard man.

Oh no, please, stop. I can't take this level of passive aggressive bullying.


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 5:22 pm
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What speed was I traveling ?

Too fast to stop on a shared path, when you have already seen the hazard, small dog,long lead and distracted owner.

Good job you're dead hard.


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 5:24 pm
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But if I did I'm sure you'd have some kind of trouser accident.

Yup. Then I would throw it at him. There ain't no war like a dirty war.


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 5:24 pm
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Too fast seeing as how you could not prevent a crash despite it being an easily predicted event.


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 5:25 pm
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Good job you're dead hard.

That's what I thought too.

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Too fast seeing as how you could not prevent a crash despite it being an easily predicted event.

It's funny how things like riding a bike, anticipating crashes or avoiding confrontations with dogs are so easily simplified online, and so chaotic in real life. I saw the dog. Noticed the length of the lead, slowed my speed, tried to alert the owner and was giving as wide a berth as possible at a slow pace. As I was just about to pass the dog saw me and darted. I steered away from it, but it still managed to get under my wheels. In trying to avoid it, I went onto wet grass, skidded and fell.

Shit happens, and yes, in the most pedantic analytical somethingion, it was avoidable and I was in the wrong. But so would 99% of cyclists imo.

Had the owner been in any kind of control of the dog, even just a reasonable length of lead it wouldn't have happened.


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 5:27 pm
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That's what I thought too.

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Posted : 06/08/2016 5:31 pm
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she's had several large dogs run up to her barking and jumping up at her.

Is she in season? 😛
(prob 6 pages too slow)


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 5:37 pm
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'Also forgot to add I trane UFC, so the advice for the OP is to make his wife trane UFC.'

I can't help myself; train not trane

Does it mean that you train UFC at something specific or that you train to compete at UFC?

I just couldn't stop staring at it, I know I have just walked into a trap but still!


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 5:42 pm
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^
Don't worry - I'm still wondering about faint <> feint on the last page.


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 5:48 pm
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I can't help myself; train not trane

Does it mean that you train UFC at something specific or that you train to compete at UFC?

I just couldn't stop staring at it, I know I have just walked into a trap but still!

In certain dark corners of the internet (reddit/bjj or reddit/mma etc) "Trane UFC" is an intentional misnomer. "Trane" would be a slight on the perceived intelligence of the poster and referring to UFC (as opposed to MMA) would imply a lack of any actual working knowledge of the UFC/MMA/any combative art.

I guess it would be analogous to saying "I trane WWE" as opposed to "I wrestle".


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 5:49 pm
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I know I have just walked into a trap but still!

Hook, line, sinker, rod, reel and copy of Angling Times.


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 5:52 pm
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I thought it was I wrastle WWE?


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 6:18 pm
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One of those times when you know it has to be, but you just can't help yourself! If I am ever reincarnated as a moth I will be heading straight towards the light!


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 6:34 pm
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Woman gets bitten by dog , dog sees woman as a a threat and bites her, she is then afraid of dogs and releases scents that dog responds to as a threat, and bites her, so she buys an illegal spray to use on a dog, with no thought of what the owner, dog, RSPCA and police will do.

report to police, council dog warden and RSPCA,and get reference numbers and chase their progress.


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 6:51 pm
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I trane UFC

Is that like mainlining KFC?


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 7:37 pm
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[i]Manlining[/i] KFC


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 8:04 pm
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That's the difference between hen and cock.


 
Posted : 06/08/2016 9:13 pm
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Posted : 06/08/2016 10:31 pm
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A man was killed by a dog yesterday, whilst out walking locally.

Different circumstances, but it highlights the risk.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-37094526


 
Posted : 16/08/2016 6:07 pm
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That is one tragic story. Especially seeing as the police had taken/returned it.

“The police then turned up but said they wouldn’t use their tasers on the dog to stop it because they thought they would kill it."

- http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/crime/dog-mauls-man-to-death-on-huddersfield-street-just-a-week-after-police-return-it-to-owner-1-8071793

...is somewhat concerning.


 
Posted : 16/08/2016 6:15 pm
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Probably the dead guy's fault.


 
Posted : 16/08/2016 7:00 pm
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If only he had learned "dog whispering" . . .


 
Posted : 17/08/2016 7:44 am
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So clearly all dogs should be banned.

Or maybe cyclists and runners could learn that generally dogs are OK but sometimes react in a challenging way to stuff they don't understand so stopping, removing sunglasses and talking at them means they recognise you as human and not worth chasing or jumping up at.

Its not difficult boys and girls.

Why should I do that? So you don't get bitten.
Would it be nice if dogs didn't react to runners or bikes? Sure.

But lets face it people can't be trained not to hurt each other for irrational reasons so dogs who have less (arguable in some instances) intelligence and understanding that people might have issues with stuff they don't understand.


 
Posted : 17/08/2016 11:44 am
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I found a quick spray of bleach stopped one of my neighbour's dogs from acting aggressively toward me. In fact, it kept well away from me after that


 
Posted : 17/08/2016 4:28 pm
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I was wondering if they are regular dogs then you'd only have to deal with them (either by aggressive/assertive behaviour or chemical weapons) once - they'd presumably remember you a second time.


 
Posted : 17/08/2016 4:58 pm
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Bump for the early evening crowd. Loads of life left in this one yet.


 
Posted : 17/08/2016 5:46 pm
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Might a pepper spray have kept the victim of a dog assault in Huddersfield alive?


 
Posted : 17/08/2016 6:37 pm
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No, it would only have added a little extra flavouring.


 
Posted : 17/08/2016 6:50 pm
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So clearly all dogs should be banned.

Or maybe cyclists and runners could learn that generally dogs are OK but sometimes react in a challenging way to stuff they don't understand

Or maybe, y'know, people should control their ****ing dogs if they're likely to "react in a challenging way".

If it looks like I'm about to be attacked by something of limited intelligence and understanding, I'll hoof the bastard into the canal. Along with its dog.

#internethardman


 
Posted : 17/08/2016 7:23 pm
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[quote=shortcut ]Or maybe cyclists and runners could learn that generally dogs are OK but sometimes react in a challenging way to stuff they don't understand so stopping, removing sunglasses and talking at them means they recognise you as human and not worth chasing or jumping up at.

Given the reason this thread has been reopened, what do you think David Ellam did wrong that resulted in his death?


 
Posted : 17/08/2016 8:14 pm
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Could she run with a go pro or smaller equivalent from a chest mount (someone must do a camera for runners). At least then she'll have recorded evidence that can be put to the authorities.

If the dog owner sees her with a camera and there is a confrontation, the dog owner might change their behaviour in future. Just a thought......


 
Posted : 17/08/2016 9:34 pm
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If the dog owner sees her with a camera and there is a confrontation, the dog owner might change their behaviour in future. Just a thought......

Yeah, seems to work pretty well when cyclist use this approach on motorists who act aggressively. I can see no way in which it could go wrong for a lone female in a park.


 
Posted : 17/08/2016 9:44 pm
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Given the reason this thread has been reopened, what do you think David Ellam did wrong that resulted in his death?

Got too close to a banned breed that should be muzzled in public.


 
Posted : 17/08/2016 9:50 pm
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was it a banned breed?


 
Posted : 17/08/2016 10:13 pm
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Not a banned breed, half Labrador half staff so the news said.


 
Posted : 17/08/2016 10:17 pm
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Clearly it doesn't have to be a banned breed to be very dangerous. So we come back to the question of how you can tell?


 
Posted : 17/08/2016 10:21 pm
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Generally the owner will tell you that it's never bitten anyone before.


 
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