It just seems to be this simple- the new rules are pro-seller, anti-buyer. Certain sellers think this is great, for some [i]mysterious [/i]reason. Buyers can't possibly gain from it and can potentially lose out. Decent sellers had nothing to fear from reasonable criticism in the first place. (and fwiw, I sell as much as I buy)
There's a case for some restriction on thread spoiling, frinstance I've seen (on another forum) "Bike for sale", with a page of responses critiquing the spelling, slagging off the bike, etc. That's not cool. But then on here the other day we had a light for sale, meanwhile in the main forum we had a PSA showing where you could get the same light, brand new with warranty, for less. That's not cool either.
What happened to the 7 page thread in the For Sale section on exactly this topic? Did the Truth Police get it?
I'm also one of the tiny minority that thinks the new rule is shit for everyone except dodgy sellers.
[quote=druidh ]What happened to the 7 page thread in the For Sale section on exactly this topic? Did the Truth Police get it?
it just got de-stickied, and being in the ad forum it's dropped right down
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/ad-spoiling-new-rule-dont-do-it-its-very-annoying
I'm in the minority aswell.
Anyone know where I can get a VW transporter that will TURN HEADS ?
News just in. We have just received our first classified donation in 3 months. It is for £5. Glad to see someone felt we were worth their money.
PS. Just got another fiver.
Careful Scruff - you'll get a warning for trolling(allegedly)
PS. Just got another fiver.
*Thanks for your order
Your payment of £5.00 GBP is complete.
You're now going back to Gofar Enterprises Ltd
*waves
If the chap with the camper van gives me proof of his sale, Cancer Research will get £20. Doubt he's donated anything
We have just received our first classified donation in 3 months.
Lost in the post?
If you're getting a fiver a quarter, by my reckoning, I'm owed the classifieds for 6 months (possibly 9). As such, I demand that I can spoil ads for that period.
PS. Just got another fiver.
could have got it for less from CRC
Interfering. Hmmm.
I suppose it's now more likely that people will do "particularly well with a sale" so might donate from their extra profit 😉
Adding my voice to the tiny minority. Agree with this:
It just seems to be this simple- the new rules are pro-seller, anti-buyer. Certain sellers think this is great, for some mysterious reason. Buyers can't possibly gain from it and can potentially lose out. Decent sellers had nothing to fear from reasonable criticism in the first place. (and fwiw, I sell as much as I buy)
I struggle with long sentences - (whatever that stands for)
wysiwyg - Member
Would I be right in thinking what I choose to charge for an item is between myself and any potential buyers, or should I expect busy bodies sticking their oar in telling me something's available from Germany for £1 more.
This is STW, expect it.
What happened to the 7 page thread in the For Sale section on exactly this topic? Did the Truth Police get it?
No its still there and that is unfair
STW are very good at bothering to discuss with us when they change things [ generally] and let us have our say on the issue - even if they dont always listen 😉
Would I be right in thinking what I choose to charge for an item is between myself and any potential buyers, or should I expect busy bodies sticking their oar in telling me something's available from Germany for £1 more.
The person sticking their oar in is a potential buyer
Do you think £1 off is a bargain over the new price or something or is it just that this information will reduce your pool of potential buyers and you dont want them to know this?
fervouredimage - Member
I think mark is right that on pricing it is nobodies business but the seller and potential buyers. But I do think members should be able to point out when something is clearly not as it should be in an ad. As above, someone describing a XC frame as a downhill frame or someone stating that certain cranks are compatible with certain bottom brackets when they are not etc.
From Mark's post above, sounds like you can help 'clarify'.... So long as you're not 'spoiling' the advert, you're on firm ground. Sounds a bit subjective mind....
Something that the "pro-spoilers" (for want of a better title) have conveniently overlooked is the frequency of non-availability of items at the online stores.
We've all seen the CRC pages where only bizarre sizes are available at the headline price, and plenty of people have posted on here about German sites letting them get all the way to the shopping cart with their "bargain", only to find it is out of stock.
The classifieds are private listings, posted by someone who actually has that item with them and so users can be confident it exists, at the price it is posted up for.
I suppose it's now more likely that people will do "particularly well with a sale" so might donate from their extra profit
Donate? wouldn't payola be a better term given the 'protection' the sellers get now? 😉
They probably get 2 points on the 'Shy' action generated from the Wonga ads too 🙂
now that the "sticky" has gone can we plead ignorance? 😀
Junkyard - if it's still there then I apologize (how very un-STW of me). I'd fogotten the way the Classifieds forums ordered posts.
Sorry Jota, if you donated on the 1st of November, Thanks very much!
Sorry as well i did not realise they had Unstuck it either so it will take some searching unless you have posted on it already
Can I get a "D" prefix now? or I'll do a claim back 😉
Sorry Jota, if you donated on the 1st of November, Thanks very much!
Did I?
I can't remember, really 🙂
bruneep - was that the kind of D you were looking for? 🙂
I want one too!
Very funny
Yey that'll do
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The classifieds are private listings, posted by someone who actually has that item with them and so users can be confident it exists, at the price it is posted up for.
I,m sure the people who've been ripped off may disagree.... 😉
patricksingletrack - Singletrack Webby
News just in. We have just received our first classified donation in 3 months. It is for £5. Glad to see someone felt we were worth their money.
*reaches for violin*
I thought that's what subscriptions were for, no?
For the next hour anyone who sends a donation gets a ;-D or the sort tag of their choice (within reason) for one week.
I'll set them up tomorrow
How much for Awesome Big Hitter?
thi could be quite a nice earner
you should allow us to buy titles for others 😉
Start mental list 😈
Can I donate and get Cynic-Al the 'Big hitter' tag he's always wanted? 😀
Junkyard - £5 and it's yours.
clubber - no, tags are for the donor only
Have you checked with the boss on that one 😀
If al does not want it I will pay for it for a week- I e-mailed him
Wow. Thread drift.
Right, that's me donated (fly...s) - "XC Jeyboy" please 😉
Mark is more than happy with that. You pay your money and make your choice.
Lets put it this way Junkyard - if we don't get a fiver from you, we'll be choosing your tag!*
*Not a genuine threat - that would be blackmail
Its ok I just laughed at it.
Me, me! I want "rubber sniffer" as my tag please!
I've asked for something subtle.
Although how they tie my donation to my account on here is anyones guess...
where's my tag, dammit?
