Ours hates swimming and only goes up to his chest, he does love jumping waves with the kids though.
But if it's from a pup it can be trained not to jump when you come home
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Reminds me with Molly...she sits on her bum and sort of taps her feet with excitement. She does fail sometimes and ends up jumping - thankfully, not with strangers. Her excitement last night after not seeing me for two weeks made my heart swell a little when I got home. 😳
She flipping hates swimming too. 😐
Our two old Borders are chalk and cheese (well Esme and Jezibel). One was fiesty enough to face up to anything that moved (bullock in a field memorably once) and the other would run off from most dogs. It depends what you get.
We've had cats for years without a problem. Now got two manic 5month old British Shorthair kittens running around and no issues.
My dog is Patterdale crossed with jack Russell....hilarious dog, all the energy of a Jack with the Patterdale just taking the edge off the snappiness....but as others have said, Patterdales are equally as tenacious if the mood takes them, he once spent all day...yes all flipping day...digging a rat out from under the shed in the garden...wouldnt come in for food, just totally focused on the task in hand, got the rat in the end the little minx!
Nice size too, bigger than a Jack but smaller than a Lab, black with white chest and paws, stunning....i'd happily have another, luckily a breeder near us specifically crosses these two dogs for this end result.
The "Patterjack" is becoming increasingly common round here too.
Edit: If anyone ever comes up with a "patterdoodle" I may have to murder them to death.
where are you hora? we're in sheffield and love our border. he's bonkers and brilliant with kids, if you're local i wouldn't mind meeting up and your son could meet him.
it's all in the training. the coat on ours doesn't strip like a normal border and he's a full pedigree with history coming out of his ar*e but hey he's full of character and fit as a fit thing.
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He's a black and tan they have different coats to weaten and red grizzles.
a month ago you were worrying about being out of a job. don't get a dog.
a month ago you were worrying about being out of a job. don't get a dog.
Why not?
Surly being at home all day can only be a good thing.... 😉
Pook youll realise one day that near on a grand comes out of your pocket every month when you have a kid in nursery 😉
Hora forgive me if I get this wrong and accepting I cannot be arsed to read the whole thread etc. But are you not the guy who had a wastie and found it too terrier like? Now your thinking of patterdales or borders!!
Read further up ^
Ok. I have read the entire thread and still think you should not get another terrier, especially a border or a pat as they are all much closer to working dogs than most other terriers. Get a lab or a lurcher but not a ver terrier like terrier.
Oh, I forgot to mention, she loves to travel by steam train 🙂
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Hora - so what are you doing with Zach while you spend on dog food?
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My patterjack Tilly after a hard day.
Paterdale 1 vs Border 1 so your call, personally I would have a patter.
But have nearly inherited a greyhound so this will be fun, never even contemplated having a dog seriously as I have grown up round pooty cats.
So this will definitely be intersting.
Ive obly ever been bitten by 3 dogs, two were Westies and one a Corgie. Westies arnt fond of small children. Oook have you calculated how much pook jnr will cost you? If you use a nursery I bet it 1,500 a month all in with food and nappies etc? 😉
Borders are better looking/cuter IMO i want one but mrs five says no (we already have a black lab BTW) 🙂
Ive obly ever been bitten by 3 dogs, two were Westies and one a Corgie
it's true that they can be very shrewd judges of character. 😆
dig you get a dog then?
Someone mention Lakeland!
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I dig ya dude..no not yet. This is a careful and measured exercise not a doggie for Christmas or 'just 7yrsdig you get a dog then?
😛 I'm still working my way through a book on Paterdales that a kind STW'er lent me 🙂
good good 🙂 good book?
Awesome dude but there was no chocolate present with the book 🙂
Our BT gets stripped twice a year as a rule. She's a lazy little madam and pretends to want to go out when she really prefers staying in the warm and dry. Would maybe get a P'Dale next for a change.
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stripped? whats wrong with a beard trimmer then a quick spin in the washing machine?
Awesome dude but there was no chocolate present with the book
Considering the subject...'chocolate present' could mean 😯
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Patterdale and a Border. Patterdale is mine, Border is my parent's.
The Border is getting a little old, fat and cranky, not to be trusted around my 18 month old daughter at all.
My Patterdale however loves my little girl, mainly down to getting fed from the table, and (some rather poor efforts at) throwing a ball for her. She's a tough little wotsit as well - she managed to get herself poisoned 10 days ago, and all the staff at the vets were rather amazed she lived through the first night, yet you'd never know she'd been ill to look at her today! Top dogs all round.
how much is pet insurance for this size dog?
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Simwits Mrs here! We have an 8 year old Patti who we adopted from rescue in July, he is a grand little chap!
He does have issues with his energy levels and he has to be managed carefully when playing and around strangers, kids and definitely footballs, he's not known as the piranha on legs for no reason. There are a lot of Patties in rescue as many people don't realise how terrier like they are, and find them difficult to manage. They are not all good around other dogs or kids and do have a wicked prey drive.
That said Toby is very smart and easy to train, has a super fun personality, loves cuddles, digs the garden on command and loves being in the house, he also loves a cuppa so we're having to remember not to leave them at nose level!
The only Patterdale I know well is a right little bastard and to be muzzled in public! And what's his bloody name?!? DARCY!! 😆 Having said that, I've met plenty other lovely ones.
Got a Border/lakeland cross.
Good in the woods,at home,and at sea.
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I'm afraid I'm with anagallis_arvensis on this. I can't remember all the details exactly but IIRC you had behavioural problems with your last dog after your son was born and had to rehome him.
What makes you think you can handle another terrier when your circumstances don't appear to have changed much?
Bingo only showed aggression to large dogs and children. Thats not behavoural issues thats a male Westie.
My friend has a Patterdale, lovely little dog, daft as a brush, boundless energy and very friendly. I don't like border terriers as much, don't know why really, a few neighbours in the street have them and they're just a bit common and samey.
The patterjacks look like lovely dogs, I'd be looking at them if in market for a new one.
FWIW I have a Parsons Russell, great fun little dog, like a jack R but bigger and not as nippy. We did cut his balls off mind after he growled at one of the weans. He'll run all day with the bike and everyone who meets him loves him.
I had a Patterdale / Lakeland cross years ago, he was a great dog with a great temprement / character. He looked like gnasher from the Beano too! Ah I miss old Scruff 🙁
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Molly, our BT - 3 years old now, still manic, but great with our 9 month old daugher... will chase anything that's small and furry. Cats are her favourite.