[Closed] OUTRAGE! (Lewes content)

Ps. You lost Ben.

And lo, I have found myself again.

I'm not fussed. I think they're idiots, but I defend the rights of idiots to burn anything they like, as long as they've checked it for hibernating hedgehogs first.

One of my very early childhood memories is of the Carlisle bonfire where as I recall it they had Maggie Thatcher emerging from the Gates of Hell.

The technical term for a harmless laugh which people are taking all the wrong way just because it has some casual racism/sexism/sectarianism in it is "banter".

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Junkyard - lazarus

Goes off to burn the queen using poppies and flags as fire lighters for a harmless laugh.

Really all depends on who they/you/I choose and your own personal boundaries of good taste

The Royal Family are all fair game for a burning, as are all politicians and religious figures.

Except the messiah Salmond, of course. 🙄

Celebrations in Lewes were not planned or carried out annually, but were more random events that were more like riots.

sums it up quite nicely...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewes_Bonfire

sbob - Member

Salmond took the piss out of them when asked about it,but don't let that interfere with your "understanding" of anything.I am sure all the bonfire societies were high sixing each other over the extra publicity.

That's why it's a good idea for non-locals to stay away, they don't understand it.

These two would LAP it up no doubt then Sbob?

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high sixing each other

Likes.

Salmond was canny enough to give the right response, and his popularity in Sussex can't come as any surprise to him (or bother him particularly).

[i]That's why it's a good idea for non-locals to stay away, they don't understand it.[/i]

I took a Canadian to the Lewes bonfires once.

He spent most of the evening with his jaw on the floor.

He'd though English traditions ended with Morris dancing outside a pub on sunny Sunday.

As long as they're not too easily offended, and are not worried about receiving minor injuries from fireworks being used in a less than safe manner, then I'm sure they'd be fine.

Hand wringing whingers may also like to avoid Valencia, 15-19 March. 😉

These two would LAP it up no doubt then Sbob?

[i]the original 'local' shop was down the road in Rottingdean... so they are local [/i]

*likes*

My wife got hit in the eye by a rocket during this. Fun night out!

The Royal Family are all fair game for a burning

I fairly certain that if you burnt an effigy of the Queen you wouldn't get away with it. Plod would definitely have something to say.

Besides, have any of the Lewes bigots ever burnt an effigy of a Royal?

If there were problems with sectarianism on a day-to-day basis in Sussex I could understand why this event might be a problem.

FFS. 🙄

Hand wringing whingers may also like to avoid Valencia, 15-19 March.

That isn't about targeting a particular religious group or is it? Completely different.

The ninots and their falles are constructed according to an agreed upon theme that has traditionally been, and continues to be, a satirical jab at anything or anyone who draws the attention of the critical eyes of the falleros

I am sure all the bonfire societies were high sixing each other over the extra publicity.

I doubt it.
Many different measures are put in place to keep out non-locals. It would only take one or two Junkyards or bencoopers to take umbrage at some papier-mache figures, or receiving minor burns, and it would be the end of the festivities.

theme that has traditionally been, and continues to be, a satirical jab at anything or anyone who draws the attention of the critical eyes

Just like Lewes, then.

Completely different.

I've attended both.
They really are not completely different.

CaptainFlashheart - Member

Just like Lewes, then.

We have a winner! 😀

Must say, as a yes voting, "scottish" "catholic" I'm struggling to get offended by this! 😆

Although reading through the wiki page just seems that they burn whoever is prevalent in the media at preceeding the event. Guess you could read into that a number of ways. (I'd go for lacking imagination tbh. 😆 )

It would only take one or two Junkyards or bencoopers to take umbrage at some papier-mache figures

It's amazing this talent you have for seeing offended people when there are none. It's sort-of a reverse touchiness - say something controversial then desperately look for anyone who might be offended by it.

I thought salmonds response was great btw! 😆

Yup, perfect timing and expression at the end 🙂

I thought salmonds response was great btw!

Well, apart from not realising that Lewes is LibDem, yes it was!

It's a Pagan festival? Surprised no-one has mentioned that already.

TBF it's not like there's a difference between the Tories, LibDems and Labour.

CaptainFlashheart - Member
Well, apart from not realising that Lewes is LibDem, yes it was!

And if you haven't noticed, even labour are classed as tories in scotland now. All the British parties are, only distinction is whether they are a red, yellow or blue tory. 😆

I would have thought that Putin astride the downed Malaysian airliner would have raised a few more eyebrows?

It would only take one or two Junkyards or bencoopers to take umbrage at some papier-mache figures

Its does not offend me

They can burn who they like

HA!

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Once you've gone past that bad taste threshold anything is fair game. Frankie Boyle should get a float next year.

As a Scot who lives in Lewes, who went to the CSBS bonfire site, I thought it was hilarious. Especially when it looked like he was firing rockets out of his moobs. There was no serious intent. It's not bigoted. It's not racist. It's fun. Eck himself took it in good humour.
And Lewes is definitely not a Tory town.

I think the whole response to this thing is hilarious and farcical. A friend on facebook shared all the Yes protests and declared his outrage at the Salmond effigy and said can you imagine the riots and national outrage if they had done one of Cameron, I pointed out to him they did Cameron in 2010 and 2011 and no one batted an eyelid.

Great work on the effigy things though, love the one of Salmond with his arse hanging out, and his response to it was very good too.

Just as well we don't get spitting image any more, can you imagine the whining you'd get these days

looked like he was firing rockets out of his moobs

Outgunned!
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It's conflagatory satire, and it doesn't work if it doesn't offend someone, somewhere.

Seeing as Salmond himself was amused, I don't think the rest of us should get offended except for the implied cruelty to Nessie. (Salmond's riposte was very good BTW.)

I think the people who are offended are seeing it as primarily aimed at Scots in general rather than Salmond in particular.

They agreed not to set light to it. They blew it up instead. Excellent and all good fun. As posted before they had a Cameron/Clegg one a few years ago.

For shear offence I preferred Putin in mankini
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As they say on bonfire night in Lewes "We will not be druv!"

They've burnt Scargill, Thatcher,Kinnock, Blair, Clinton, Cameron and Clegg as well as Sadam Huseein etc. I really don't see why a pirotechnic effigy of a public figure is anymore than light entertainment.

I went as a child and the event was always fun with no real malice. The Protestant martyrs that were burnt do have historical significance and in my opinion it is only historical. I've shouted burn the Pope and No Popery but no actually means it.

This is a great advertisement for the event. I really wish I'd been there. Will have to mark it down for 2015

What a bunch of cuts!
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Junkyard - lazarus

That was in my first post was I not explicit enough for you?

You were obvious enough when you did the usual lefty thing of being professionally offended on someone else's behalf.

Junkyard - lazarus

Cool so if there is no day to day problems with racism then they can be racist for the day etc and burn some "darkies"? Some muslamic ones?

Obvious hand-wringing whinge-bag is obvious. 🙂