Sabbath from that era for me.
Iron Maiden released their first album in 1980, so you are saying that Heaven & Hell (title track excepted), Mob Rules and Born Again era Sabbath were better than Iron Maiden, Killers, Number of the Beast, and Piece of Mind? Don't get me wrong, I love Sabbath but Technical Ecstasy onwards they have had very few high points musically.
Off the back of this thread prompting me I just got tickets for Iron Maiden in Birmingham next July!
As I suspected…..Dio fan
Another Dio fan here 🤟
Heaven and Hell and Rising, both brilliant albums.
Old school metal, I'd go with Budgie.
Off the back of this thread prompting me I just got tickets for Iron Maiden in Birmingham next July!
I nearly did - put 4 in my basket this morning for Nottingham. Looked at the total price and thought, naah, I'm not that bothered.
I guess a lot of people are thinking this too. I'm off to see Biffy in Nov and amazingly tickets are still available for most dates. Normally they'd sell out straight away.
Of the two Maiden, especially the early Di'Anno stuff. But I'm also a massive Dio fan so Rainbow and Dio era Sabbath for me. Could never be Priest cos Halford is a tea leaf....😉
Maiden are old school ? Purple
Priest because Maiden has been doing only festival gigs here lately and my 17-year old can’t yet join in.
We saw Priest in June this year and they were really good. Current live version of Blood Red Skies is fantastic, none of the tinny drum machine stuff of the album version.
Of the two, Maiden all day long. From that era, though, it's another vote for Dio from me, and not just his vocals (although they were insane), they had the whole package.
they had the whole package
Just a very, very small package. Almost too whee!
Maiden - Somewhere in Time is a great album. Agree with Footflaps - Queensryche are brilliant. Mindcrime was played constantly during my college days.
So clearly Maiden won that – perhaps we should go back a step and do a Rock and Metal World Cup (ie, Zepellin v Sabbath, Crue v Ratt, Quiet Riot v AC/DC, Nirvana v Faith No More, Disturbed v Killswitch Engage etc etc etc) and see who wins through to the final 🙂
They are indistinguishable from each other. The entire genre is bland, the 'tunes' are simple boring and basic with almost no veriety, the lyrics childish and indecipherable* it falls somewhere between "finger in the ear" folk and rockabilly on a scale of "crimes against music".
Every single Heavy metal songs breakdown goes
1 sound of engine revving
2. Yelling
3. Rythming some words with some other words
4. fret-board ****ery (scales, if the guitarist stayed awake during music lessons, arpeggios)
5. some other instrument
6. Abrupt non-ending
*I'm aware that's a feature, not a bug.
They are indistinguishable from each other. The entire genre is bland, the ‘tunes’ are simple boring and basic with almost no veriety, the lyrics childish and indecipherable* it falls somewhere between “finger in the ear” folk and rockabilly on a scale of “crimes against music”.
Every single Heavy metal songs breakdown goes
1 sound of engine revving
2. Yelling
3. Rythming some words with some other words
4. fret-board ****ery (scales, if the guitarist stayed awake during music lessons, arpeggios)
5. some other instrument
6. Abrupt non-ending
*I’m aware that’s a feature, not a bug.
You clearly haven't listened to very much any Iron Maiden then.
Oh god, Absolutely. I don't listen to Iron Maiden for the same reason I don't listen to recordings of rutting elephant seals. But that's not going to stop me from forming an opinion about the Heavy Metal that others have played to me and said (often overly hopefully) "You'll like this" No, no I don't.
It's a genre of music that constantly surprises; many musicians seem genuinely individually talented. That they all produce the same boring song over and over again never fails to astonish. There's no other genre of music like in it's ability not have developed in any way.
Although, you're right, we should probably have different anatomies for other bits of Metal
Black Metal
1. Screaming, church bells, murder
2. err, that's it
Death Metal
1. Some beats
2. Singing that is suspiciously similar to the cookie monster
3. Beats
you can go now.
Hahahhah
Doom
1. Riff
2. 30 seconds of really fast drumming
May I offer NickC and education in Metal......
Try Iron Maiden - Aces High
Then try Faith No More - Epic
Then Disturbed - Sound of silence
Then Alice In Chains - Would
Tehn Tool -Schism
All "Metal", all very very different. Try it, you might like it...:)
I'm not going to listen to any of those. Others have tried and failed. TBF, I don't mind the opening bars of most AC/DC, it's when they start murdering the cat that I turn it off.
Don't even try guys - nickc's not for turning!
...we've found a candidate for a ritualistic sacrifice though! 🙂 👹 🔥
It's a shame though - this was a really fun thread until one asshat sees a thread title, thinks 'I hate all that crap' then proceeds to tell us all what is wrong with the genre of music we like that, by their own admission, they don't even listen to.
Jog on nickc, close the door on your way out.
Oh my word. If a wee bit of gentle mockery on an otherwise dull Friday afternoon is enough for you to resort to that level of insult. may I gently suggest that t'internet isn't for you?
If you want to have a discussion about how great you think this music is, I'm not stopping you, just ignore me, and crack on.
TBF, I don’t mind the opening bars of most AC/DC, it’s when they start murdering the cat that I turn it off.
In that case you should try listening to early Bon Scott era AC/DC not the Brian the cat strangler stuff .
In support of nickc - yeah, it's nonsensical, childish rubbish. But the main thing is - Judas Priest, surely they were just a novelty act, taking the piss out of the whole thing in the first place? The name for one thing. Then, this bloke..
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Too right – Holy Diver
Yeah, hell of an album.
I suspect I'll be headphoning it on YT later this eve.
Hat is off to anyone nostalgic enough to listen to that lightweight tinny 80s disco heavy metal
Pretty much this.
I am fortunate to be young enough to come at all these bands after the fact.
Judas priest and maiden do not stack up well. Much of it to do with production and massively compressed everything. But the writing is pretty poor, no dynamics makes the whole thing lack punch. Thin Lizzy stepped into that at times but kept a bit more rawk in the mix.
The grunge scene managed more punch with less noise.
Yep. A lot of my mates at school were into metal, I just found it boring cosplay nonsense. AC/DC is entertaining, much better band because they were just a rock band, not into metal silliness.
I was more into stuff like Prince, Talking Heads, and Springsteen (Born to Run, especially), but also Ramones, Sex Pistols, etc. Maiden and Priest just weren't very good compared with stuff like that or the best grunge stuff from the 90s.
Show me anything by Maiden or Priest that comes close to Rats by Pearl Jam, for example.
Different eras - you can’t compare them.
If you pronounce Mötörhead as suggested by the use of umlauts, then surely it should sound like 'Muurtuurhead'. Which sounds a bit Geordie. Like. Man. Y'knaa. Pet.
Hh, totally not a metalhead, but Maiden. Cos they're the only band of they type that produces sound that's anywhwere vaguely like actual music.
And it’s a nostaligia thing for me - few things are as exciting to a teenage lad as running up town and picking up a pink vinyl single of Run to the Hills that you’d ordered weeks before and showing it around in class at lunchtime.
I had Number of the Beast album on picture disc too.
It’s memories of the era that do it for me - I rarely play Maiden now.
Def Leppard of that era too were huge in our school - Pyromania and High ‘n Dry were as good as it got back then. They should have stopped years ago though as they now produce some cringeworthy durge.
They are indistinguishable from each other. The entire genre is bland, the ‘tunes’ are simple boring and basic with almost no veriety, the lyrics childish and indecipherable* it falls somewhere between “finger in the ear” folk and rockabilly on a scale of “crimes against music”.
So what do you regard as "good" music then? Just so all we metal fans can get our own back!! (-:
I was more into stuff like Prince, Talking Heads, and Springsteen (Born to Run, especially), but also Ramones, Sex Pistols, etc. Maiden and Priest just weren’t very good compared with stuff like that or the best
yep - I like all those bands, Simon & Garfunkel, Howard Jones, The The, Interpol, Spear of Destiny blah blah blah - but we’re just trying to enjoy Maaaiiiiiideeen!
Another Dio fan here 🤟
Heaven and Hell and Rising, both brilliant albums.
Saw the Heaven and Hell tour the year before he died, amazing!
enough for you to resort to that level of insult.
Asshat is a term of endearment here, don't you know.
First band I ever saw live, at Leeds Queens Hall, original line up, with Paul Di’anno singing.
Are you sure? I don't recall them ever playing at Queen's Hall - they played at the Uni earlier on when they were a support act, then played at St George's Hall in Bradford on the Killers tour IIRC (after which Di'Anno was booted out).
