[Closed] OK so, Eco-Cars? what are the best options? (Includes Golf Review)

I've got a year old 318D M Sport (actually a 2.0 litre) and it does 58mpg when I feel the need 45mpg on average and will eek out 650 miles from an £80 tank of fuel, £0 initial road tax and now £30 a year

Prius' are the last word on hypocrisy seeing as they are built in the four corners of the globe, shipped around the globe to be assembled then back around the globe to the UK. They look shit, they never achieve the MPG diesels can and try putting four people in it and see how low your back end is......

If you're so bothered about the eco system then do it properly and don't buy a car and hug trees. You should also re-title your post 'which car has best fuel economy'

They look shit, they never achieve the MPG diesels can

Not true.

try putting four people in it and see how low your back end is

Don't slag stuff off when you know nothing about the subject. They are fine 4-up (I've done many many miles like this, more than you it sounds like).

Also they are built in a factory in Japan powered partly by renewables and the plastics are plant based from non-food crops.

I've got a year old 318D M Sport (actually a 2.0 litre) and it does 58mpg when I feel the need 45mpg on average and will eek out 650 miles from an £80 tank of fuel

520 miles from a £50 tank in my Prius. Averages 55-60mpg driven at the speed limit all the time. Much more if I were inclined to do 60mph on the motorway, which I'm not. I thought you said diesels were better on fuel...?

Why do people get so angry about the pruis!? It sounds as if everyones just repeating jeremy clarkson-isms, and he talks nothing other than complete nonsense especially with regard to electric cars and batteries.

Good question HH. I think it's because people IMAGINE (internet forum style) that people are buying Priuses to show off about how smart-arsed eco green they are, based on nothing much really.

Of course people might be buying BMWs to show off how fast of a driver they think they are or how rich they are, I don't know 🙂

It makes more sense to keep an old car running than to scrap it and buy one that's made of parts that have been half way round the world twice.....

Only if you do a very low mileage...

My sister has a bluemotion, and I was really surprised by the cheap feel of the interior. I'd be looking at the new Focus 1.0 ecoboost.

Why do people get so angry about the pruis!? It sounds as if everyones just repeating jeremy clarkson-isms, and he talks nothing other than complete nonsense especially with regard to electric cars and batteries.

Quite. We have one at work. It's quiet, spacious, comfortable and good (but not spectacular)on fuel. A pretty sensible family wagon, all in all.

No offence but we are talking VW Golf diesels here.

You'll wipe out all savings you've made even before the OP has reached 2yrs ownership.

We are talking VW quality. My Bro in law had a 09 Golf TDI from new and did similar mileage. He needed a new Turbo, in addition to many other things replacing.

And in case you needed another fanboi post, I would like to point out that the Prius does very well in reliability surveys.

hora - a twizy like that would be fantastic - i'm going to write to renault.

Plus the engine only weighs circa 70kg's?

Don't slag stuff off when you know nothing about the subject. They are fine 4-up (I've done many many miles like this, more than you it sounds like).

I had the misfortune of driving one for four months before It forced me to opt out of company car scheme and buy a proper car.... therefore I know plenty about them and maybe you drive like you're trying to save the planet and your consumption is better than mine but I drive a car in the real world, on real (congested) roads and with reference to being four up, check out the permissible load weigh of a prius and you'll find it's a miserable 375Kg, barely enough for four 'real world' people never mind luggage and a bike rack with three bikes on the back

Had a pottle in a new 1.6tdi bluemotion and found the engine quite perky - did not really see the need to go up to the 2.0tdi based on what I drove in a new Eos. I'd probebly go for the Match or SE rather than the full fat Blue Motion. Was getting easily an indicated 60mpg on A Roads.

Currently drive a 1.6tdi Passat, but only getting circa 52 mpg average, but its only done 3k.

I drive a car in the real world, on real (congested) roads

I'd love to know how I could have racked up 85k miles without going on any real congested roads! Sounds to me like you don't know how to drive economically. Can't really blame the car for that.

Re weights.. 380kg in fact.. vs 436kg for a bluemotion Golf. Not a dramatic difference.

380kg is plenty for my purposes, I don't know four 15st people that would be using it at once. Priuses aren't great load cars, the boot is not huge.

Here's my eco(nomical)-car;

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Sometimes does up to 30mpg!

Will cost me next to nothing in depreciation. 90's Toyota that's spent most of it's life in Japan so very reliable and completely rust free.

And it's got pop-up headlights to reduce drag and is therefore a proper eco-car!

liking the Volvo V60 plug in hybrid diesel at the moment but it's £42k! 😯

if you're looking at BUYING a car and you're looking at the environmental side alone then buy a second hand something get it serviced and spruced up and run it til it dies.
yes new cars may be more economical and they may be made from better materials but the amount of energy saved in NOT producing a new car against reviving a second hand car is reason enough.

Good point. Anything brand new with the words Eco written on would only be considered Eco if it was over-engineered and designed to last for decades. All the car manufacturers have done is use different tyres, badges and a ECU map.

Everything else is designed to last upto 7yrs as a theoretical max.

Prius' are the last word on hypocrisy seeing as they are built in the four corners of the globe, shipped around the globe to be assembled then back around the globe to the UK....

(the e nergy involved in transport of the bits and the finished product is insignificant anyway)