That Q7 is scarily big in the metal, as it were. Probably run straight over the top of some small cars without even realising it.
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I think anyone who drives any of these fat urban SUVs should take an extra parking test. I live have the week in Surrey and the car parks and roads outside schools are made impassable by big Volvos, Audis and Discos, usually black, often driven by a blonde on the phone... 👿
Q7 5,052 mm L x 1,968 mm W x 1,740 mm H
Ford Mondeo 4,867 mm L x 1,852 mm W x 1,501 mm H
so that's 18.5cm longer, 11.6cm wider and 23.9cm higher.
Not that huge compared to completely average other cars!
Cars got big, lots of people want one, cars are seen as a status symbol by lots of the worlds population (however I suspect a left leaning cycling forum isn't actually a perfect cross section of society so may seem that nobody thinks this way...) and manufactures, if they think there's a market to make a profit, will bring something out to sell. Yay capitalism.
Oh, and I'd quite like a pickup even though they are completely impractical for me!
Not that huge compared to completely average other cars!
A Ford Mondeo is a large car.
Here's some therapy for those offended by the images above
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I want a Bavarian forest to go with my unimog!
I want a forest and a Unimog.
Not that huge compared to completely average other cars!
Yeah, perhaps I should've justified my post by explaining I was in a Mini when I encountered that Q7 beast.
Yeah, perhaps I should've justified my post by explaining I was in a Mini when I encountered that Q7 beast.
Minis, Fiestas, Corsas et al are way more popular than Ford Mondeos. So yes, a Q7 is completely huge compared to the cars most people drive!
Indeed, Ransos. That was the point I was making - popularity!
Fatties like fat cars!
Q7 5,052 mm L x 1,968 mm W x 1,740 mm H
Golf exterior dimensions
Length 4,255mm
Width (excluding door mirrors) 1,799mm
Height 1,476mm
They're pretty big.
Being that most of the cars in N America seem to be pickups, I'd say Merc knows its markets.
Those hoping for a version here in North America will likely be sorely disappointed, as Mercedes announced plans to sell the X-Class in overseas markets, but not the United States.
So, just the wannabees, then...
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For the avoidance of doubt, I do rather like a pickup. I spend a lot of time in the US, and find myself wanting a F150.
F350 surely; the 150 is just the US equivalent of a super-mini.
When I saw one of th epics on the previous page I really thought "why has someone posted a Kangoo" in th etime it took to focus on the Merc badge. I knew they were using Renault's Douvrin built engine but now it seems they've rebadged the whole car:
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I suspect a left leaning cycling forum isn't actually a perfect cross section of society
If I ever find one I'll let you know.
Surely not that many people need a pick-up? They're handy for shifting big stuff and a few extra people to lift it when you get to the other end but otherwise they've got all the impracticalities of a flatbed and 4x4 mixed into one.
Chances are all the people who get one will stick a truckman or one of those pointless hard covers on it thus turning it into the estate car or 4x4 they should have bought in the first place. Not of course that they need a 4x4 because they live in Surrey and will only ever park on the pavement, besides those 22" rims and road tyres render it useless on anything more off-road than a cricket pitch.
Basically car makers have hit critical mass and are therefore producing vehicles to pander to every niche and charging handsomely for it, well done them.
Living in Cheshire I've seen a few of these around, but I saw one at weekend in "golden brown" and you have to see it in the flesh to appreciate how ugly they really are.
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remember when flash cars weren't for everyone?
It's like these manufacturers that were once seen as luxury vehicles are now making motors to fit in to every possible niche.
IMHO, the only decent "SUV" that Merc has ever made
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Chances are all the people who get one will stick a truckman or one of those pointless hard covers on it thus turning it into the estate car or 4x4 they should have bought in the first place.
How many estates or 4x4's can you hose down the boot area in?
How many estates or 4x4's can you hose down the boot area in?[quote/]I reckon more people will have the desire to put some massive 22'' chrome look alloys on their pickup, like some vehicle from Barbie world or something, than people hosing their vehicle down.
Sizes of modern cars......
This is a scale comparison of a Mk1 Range Rover and a new 5 door Mini. Done by a friend of mine who does high end animation and imagery so it's very accurate.
Quite scary!!
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i'd like to see the height of the bonnets compared, SUV vs regular car, and then compared to the height of the average 8 year old.
they're not driven to school because their parents are worried about peados... 🙄
Mini Countryman are sodding huge! But so are those Fiat 500 X, which I had the misfortune to have to drive last year, woefully underpowered, on one of the sloping bits of the M4 up to Tormarton, I had to go down to 3rd on a six-speed box to keep it going.
It says a lot when Porsche's best seller is their 4x4.
Guess what platform the new Bentley Continental GT is based on...
The old VW Phaeton platform is a bit long in the tooth now.
I have driven a Merc ML, a Q7, and a current Range Rover, and they're bloody intimidating to drive, trying to manoeuvre them around tight spaces is a nightmare.
But not as bad as a 3.5 ton builders truck, or an ex-Royal Navy 15-seat LDV minibus with a worn-out gearbox...
remember when flash cars weren't for everyone?
Like it was yesterday.
I have driven a Merc ML, a Q7, and a current Range Rover, and they're bloody intimidating to drive, trying to manoeuvre them around tight spaces is a nightmare.
It's not really though is it, not what I've found when I drove a Q7 but then again I've driven larger vehicles since I was 18 on a daily bases.
And now they seems to have an "emissions problem"? Global recall to change the engine management software, apparently.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/19/mercedes-recalls-3m-diesel-cars-emissions-concerns
The inside of the Merc Pickup is pretty grim, not exactly commercial, more Liberace..
Personally, given the appropriate fund to allow me to buy and run one, I'd love one of these, and they're not physically that big:
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And now they seems to have an "emissions problem"? Global recall to change the engine management software, apparently.
Only on the 1.5l Renault developed engine - after all how many times over the limit is the Renault Kaptur? 17-18?
My Mate has a GLA AMG ^^ I think you'd be rather disappointed by the interior and it's very low grade plastics, multiple rattles and very poor boot seals..
But I have test driven one of these, and it was nice.. small inside, but very comfortable and extremely quiet.
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A lot more than just the 1.5l, ap. They quote the V-class which only uses a Mercedes 2.2 diesel.
Affected engines include the four-cylinder 1.6-litre and 2.1-litre diesels, along with the 3.0-litre V6. The latest OM 654 family of 2.0-litre diesels that are fitted to selected E-Class and C-Class models are not affected
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It's not really though is it, not what I've found when I drove a Q7 but then again I've driven larger vehicles since I was 18 on a daily bases.
You're so awesome I couldn't find a [i]You're Awesome[/i] image to fit your awesomeness.
It's Ok I have a T-Shirt.
Whilst looking for a suitable t-shirt to use as further ridicule I stumbled across this and was put off my stride...
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Anyway, as you were with the car stuff...
Pandering to the 'merkins?
I don't think so. Mid size trucks wont sell in the US unless they see a *huge* increase in gas prices again. Not even Ford have brought back the Ranger yet as all mid size truck sales hit Toyota's Tacoma and any domestic hold outs the Colorado/Canyon.
Trucks are completely impractical for family life as it is, no right minded Mercedes soccer mom is going to want truck bed impracticality when they lap up their SUV's
It's not really though is it, not what I've found when I drove a Q7 but then again I've driven larger vehicles since I was 18 on a daily bases.
All relative, innit.
A good mate of mine spent quite a few years driving car transporters, so what?
Thing is, up until twelve months ago, since passing my test in 1976, I'd never driven anything bigger than my Octavia.
Anything up to 3.5 tons is huge by my standards.
Yup that is kind of my point, if you're use to drive big vehicle and SUV poses no problems. If you drive and original Fiat 500 and Modeo Estate will feel like driving a tanker.
Even as a Merc fan (we've had a few, own two now and are swapping one for a new one soon) I find this sort of badge engineering a little depressing for a company that can make some very good cars (as well as so less impressive ones in the past) I guess it's all about chasing profits.
Driving a big suv along the road isn't a big deal, even oretty narrow roads vs a normal car. The only place its an issue is in say toght multi story car parks and in my experience my A6 Avant was more of a handful than a lwb Shogun in that regard. I never once thought the various large 4x4's Ive had where much different from the Yaris on narrow tight country roads.
Aren't Alfa selling an SUV now? And Maserati? FFS!
Great more angry & aggressive looking vehicles for me to be frightened of on my bicycle.
