The fact that the middle aged, middle class women - mostly with secure careers that will not be impacted by having made a complaint on their 'CV' are the only ones making public complaints is obviously a cognitive leap too far for Mr Wallace.
As for Mr Rhodes, who there have been a number of references to both here and in the press as being the cheese to Mr Wallace's chalk - take that cheese with a good pinch of salt. A family member (oddly employed whilst an incredibly good looking young lady - see a pattern? Draw your own conclusions - yes, you are thinking on the right lines.) has a very different take on the man.
It’s a spent conviction she wouldn’t have to disclose in normal circumstances anyway. I couldn’t care if it was a Labour or Tory minister.
Presumably no one can be rehabilitated and learn from stupid things they’ve done in the past?
Under normal circumstances, no. But this isn't normal circumstances. The fact she failed to disclose it just says she can't be trusted. If she'd declared it then there would be no story other than a spent conviction that she owned.
If she was convicted of one offence then she wasn’t “done over multiple allegations”
There were several allegations, one of which she was prosecuted over.
She was under no obligation, morally or otherwise, to declare a spent conviction
Er, yes, she was. Ministerial Code. Likewise for kinks and other things that can be used to extort or blackmail.
The fact she failed to disclose it
She says she disclosed it when she was appointed to the shadow cabinet. The PM has neither confirmed nor denied her account. So you cannot say that it's a fact that she failed to disclose it.
There were several allegations, one of which she was prosecuted over.
And? Let's stick with her actual conviction rather than unsubstantiated allegations. I note that the judge felt that her crime was worthy of the lowest possible punishment.
Er, yes, she was. Ministerial Code. Likewise for kinks and other things that can be used to extort or blackmail.
She says she was only asked to disclose unspent convictions. In any case it's not relevant if she had already disclosed it to her manager.
Regardless of the above, she has resigned so then hang 'em high brigade have their wish.
Gregg and his PA heading for the Harvester this morning.
There were several allegations, one of which she was prosecuted over.
Good, so not "done over multiple allegations" then. "Done over one", to use your terminology.
Er, yes, she was. Ministerial Code. Likewise for kinks and other things that can be used to extort or blackmail.
If you are familiar with the Ministerial Code it'd be great if you would point me to the clause where it covers the obligation to declare spent criminal convictions. I'm not aware of one.
This threads got really confusing. It's supposed to be about the fat bald talentless misogynistic greengrocer Gregg Wallace, why are people posting about the labour MP that resigned??
I might have missed the crossover, but why are people blithering on about Haigh on thread about Wallace when she's got her own thread?
This is what happens when you cross the streams......
Anyway, Hugh Fearnley-Whatshisname has suggested that Wallace should be concentrating on listening rather than talking at the moment, which sounded like a pretty epic telling off by his standards.
This threads got really confusing. It’s supposed to be about the fat bald talentless misogynistic greengrocer Gregg Wallace, why are people posting about the labour MP that resigned??
Guilty as charged, sorry. I was just about to post something similar bemoaning how this thread had shot off on more tangents than usual even for STW and then I got suckered into joining in.
If you are familiar with the Ministerial Code it’d be great if you would point me to the clause where it covers the obligation to declare spent criminal convictions. I’m not aware of one.
I'd imagine 1.4 b
Integrity: Holders of public office
must avoid placing themselves
under any obligation to people
or organisations that might try
inappropriately to influence
their work. They should not act
or take decisions in order to
gain financial or other material
benefits for themselves, their
family, or their friends. They must
declare and resolve any interests
and relationships.
Like I said before, that covers stuff that could be used to blackmail unduly influence an elected official.
But yeah crossed streams.
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Averaging a complaint of sexual misconduct once every couple of years is nothing to be shouting about!
Who is advising this plonker?
Why don't celebs who get caught out like this ever apologise??
I mean a genuine apology rather than one of those faux "sorry if you were offended" type ones.
Because it’s an admission of guilt.
Who is advising this plonker?
He's set only to 'transmit' not 'receive'
Si King was on the box this morning being charming and chirpy.
He's probs already had the call.
Get Sean in, he's done enough voiceover for the program and thanks to Miss zeta jones knows about trifle.
Now it’s got MORE worse - a contestant has come out and said such behaviour was so rife by Gregg and others (on Masterchef) that they were made to sign an NDA.
BBC in coverup yet again, and lo! We have a rise in the TV license fee to pay for the lawyers ffs!
Is this a BBC thing though? I mean they broadcast it sure but they don’t make the show as far as I can tell. Are they actually involved in its production or do they just buy the finished product?
What’s it got to do with the bbc. They don’t make the programme or employ the presenters.
Averaging a complaint of sexual misconduct once every couple of years is nothing to be shouting about!
Ah but they are only women of a certain age so doesnt really count.
Who is advising this plonker?
Me? After being told I was being made redundant and having had a few pints to get over it.
Men like Gregg don't need advisors. Those are for leftist woke cucks. Men like Gregg tell it like it is. What you see is what you get with men like Gregg.
I'm guessing GB News will be starting a cooking segment soon. 😉
I'm only half joking. Seems like a perfect fit.
Men like Gregg don’t need advisors.
Men like Gregg need lawyers.
From the "I See You" podcast / Facebook account:
I see you, Gregg Wallace.
Phwoar! This isn’t what you were expecting, was it? This isn’t your ordinary pud. This is a hot, fresh, sweet, salty, lip-licking gobful of comeuppance. You just can’t stop sticking your spoon in it, digging deeper and deeper, despite the PR team desperately windmilling their arms just out of shot. It’s quite something, isn’t it? We’re going to have to take you straight through to the final two. HR meetings, that is.
You just can’t say anything any more, can you? Not without some uppity middle-aged woman of a certain age running off to the complaints department. Why is it always the more world-weary and financially secure ones that get offended? Why is it only the ones with established careers - who have been dealing with tedious men in the workplace for years - that are always so keen to take you down a peg or two?
It’s never the junior freelancers, or the terrified members of the public stood in front of a TV camera for the first time in their lives, melting down as they mangle a quenelle under the pressure. You distinctly remember nearly all of them laughing. So hard, in fact, that some of them still had tears in their eyes an hour later. Keep going with that pattern recognition, Gregg. You’re so close to actually getting it.
Nope, it’s gone. This isn't the time for quiet self-reflection about your own conduct! There's just one thing this situation calls for, and it’s to film a video blaming the women. That’ll deal with those nasty accusations of misogyny. It should also put to bed this silly idea that you might not know just how offensively you come across. Who needs experts in defensive comms, when you can just manifest and self-actualise your own victory in this Total PR War?
Who’d have thought it could come to this? Well, apart from Popbitch that is, who have been recording examples of your ad-libbed comic genius for posterity dating back years. It’s almost as if everyone around you has been sick of your shit for ages, quietly seething with resentment for how desperately uncomfortable you made them feel. Why not tell Popbitch, when all you want is for someone - anyone - to actually challenge the creeps on their bullshit? It’s not like BBC management were taking any of them seriously.
Every off-colour joke you’ve ever told, each of them leaping straight over that firmly established line of cheeky British daytime TV innuendo. Why go for wit, when you can leap straight into ‘every woman who hears this joke suddenly craving a scalding hot shower’ territory? So many of them, quoted in Typewriter in that double-spaced newsletter. I mean really, where’s the harm? It’s just ‘banter,’ isn’t it? A bit of slap and tickle, cheeky wink, Yakety-Sax themed cheekiness.
What does that dish remind me of? I know, it’s my aunt’s c**t! An apparent quote from you there. One that inexplicably ended up on the cutting room floor. Why, I have no idea - it’s an expertly written bit of harmlessly suggestive wordplay that could have been lifted directly out of any of the Carry On films.
I’m sure everybody on set roared with laughter that day, particularly the women. Like the time you told another contestant in front of Ulrika Johnsson that they were handling a fish ‘like a rapist attempting foreplay.’ I can’t think of a single reason why as many as one in four women wouldn’t have roared with laughter at that one.
Wasn’t that the day Monica completely coincidentally snapped a knife sharpener, the corner of one of her eyes twitching? Oh how we laughed, as that jagged spar of steel bounced and twanged across the studio floor before embedding itself in the door of a microwave. It was all just harmless fun!
But why stop there? What’s the difference between jam and jelly, Gregg? You don’t present Masterchef for twenty years just to get more than a dozen complaints of workplace harassment jellied up your arse! Wait, what do you mean I’m ‘suspended with pay pending an investigation?’ This is political correctness gone mad! Didn’t you read my column? I’m just a normal bloke!
No wonder you’re so ruffled. It’s an injustice, isn’t it? It’s classism, that’s what it is - they can’t stand the working boy for having done good. You’re being persecuted by the middle-class liberal elites, the humourless ones who can’t take a bit of harmless banter. It’s definitely not narcissism that causes you to instantly recast yourself as the wronged hero of this story. I can practically hear the word “woke” bubbling up in your throat from here.
I can feel it rising through your convulsing body, a throttled battle cry of frustrated anger that will soon erupt forth like Caesar first learning to speak. I give it a week, max, before you finally snap and grab that cattle prod, roaring “WOOOOOOKE!” across social media like every other grotesque boor that thinks it’s a magic word for excusing their bullshit.
Actually thinking about it, maybe we should drop the Caesar analogy. You shouldn’t grab the cattle prod. You’ll only end up windmilling it at an intern.
I see you, Gregg Wallace. I ****ing see you.
ITV breakfast were suggesting his next role could be as a Reform candidate given his attitudes.
Went see Paddy McGuinness last night (surprisingly good btw) and he opened with "sweating like Gregg Wallace at a WI meeting...."
I’m guessing GB News will be starting a cooking segment soon.
I'm thinking more he'll go to the US once Trump is President and join the circuit of ex-pat 'celebrity' ****ers over there.
Do we actually know his political leanings? I mean, we could probably guess, but we'd be guessing.
Do we actually know his political leanings?
Russell Brand just spat his cornflakes out at the idea of existing political leanings being more important than monetising the anti woke market.
I give it a week, max, before you finally snap and grab that cattle prod, roaring “WOOOOOOKE!” across social media like every other grotesque boor that thinks it’s a magic word for excusing their bullshit.
So true.
Bit of a less important point, but where does he get the 4000 contestants figure from?
Celebrity, professionals, amateur MasterChef. A dozen contestants a series, 1 series a year for 20 years, adds up to 720? That's a long way from 4000.
‘Battle adapted combine harvesters’ is a genius description of middle aged, middle class women.
Is that sexist or complimentary - I can’t tell.
Here Greg, have a bigger spade. You'll need it dig your hole bigger...
Celebrity, professionals, amateur MasterChef. A dozen contestants a series, 1 series a year for 20 years, adds up to 720? That’s a long way from 4000.
I also wondered this. Unless he and Torode work with the people who apply but never get to the televised stages?
Lying man lies, shock horror.
A dozen contestants a series
its way more than that. 12 is the second or third round I think
28 amateurs in 2019 a brief google reveals. Plus the celebs (12?) plus the pros (20 odd?)
I'm late to the party but I quite like master chef and always wondered why he was even there... It's not like he really adds anything of value to the show other than to potentially make it appear a bit less pretentious and a bit more accessible with his more 'working class banter'.
Coming soon to GBeebies...
Gregg Wallace and Mark Lawrenson do a road trip around good old Blighty in a Range Rover.
"My Aunt's **** and Another Miserable **** Ride Again".
The 'banter' will be epic. Not.
Awaiting leak of production company’s rushes.
I’m late to the party but I quite like master chef and always wondered why he was even there… It’s not like he really adds anything of value to the show other than to potentially make it appear a bit less pretentious and a bit more accessible with his more ‘working class banter’.
I think you've answered your own question there. He was also the common factor across all the formats (am, pro, celeb) which is an important part of the "brand". I suspect he's more recognisable and nameable by the audience than the chefs. His "cheeky chappy" persona with some vague food knowledge but not being a chef is actually probably important to the format and its commercial success. That in no way excuses him behaving like a ****, but it may go some way to explaining why producers didn't just replace him. He will actually be quite hard to replace; I'm not 100% sure that the show will survive such a big change amidst a bit of a scandal when it is a bit of a tired format now. Some producer will possibly try to bring in fresh ideas and kill the show or try to find a new Wallace, but instead of finding truely fresh meat will bring in some C list celeb - perhaps a comedian, and the show will become about them not the contestants/food.
I'm sure he'll find enough work to keep the wolves from the door, by commentating on things like chlorinated chicken, the importance of farmers to food supply, etc on GB News and even in the tabloid that are currently tearing him to pieces (their enemy is the BBC not Wallace!). The people who won't actually learn a lesson here are the producers and production company - but they are essentially complicit. Contestants and junior production staff are at a huge power disadvantage complaining against one of the judges and still a number of them complained and nothing happened: talent are easily reshuffled before they become part of the scenery.
Just need to get rid of the horrible Monica Galetti and her absurd “skills tests” now.
Just need to get rid of the horrible Monica Galetti and her absurd “skills tests” now
monica only appears on the professional version, I like the skills test and her facial expressions as people who profess to be expert chefs screw them up!
Yeah, the skills tests are my favourite thing about Masterchef the Professionals.
