[Closed] obesity, discuss.

Just as well your name is teadrinker.

I've got a mate who's skinny and his mrs isn't, so I don't think you can catch it.

I think threads about obesity might be a disease.

Fridge pickers wear big knickers?

in some cases it may well be but the vast majority is caused by eating too much.

already on it

http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/psa-more-fatties-to-poke-fun-at-ch4-now

[url= http://www.giveupsugar.com/ ]this guy has an interesting take on it.[/url]

Myself I believe its more complex than that - the food companies increase their market share by making foods we get addicted to - sugar salt and fat and then carb loading them - but hidden sugar and perhaps fructose play a large part. we have a much higher calorie intake than our ancestor but dont lead such active lives

by definition it is a disease by that doesn't mean that you should feel sorry for them does it?

by definition it is a disease by that doesn't mean that you should feel sorry for them does it?

Mental disorder of varying degrees of severity imo.

So it depends on your definition of disease.

a disease is just

a medical condition

I think, no I KNOW, that his is far to complex an issue for such a simple debate! And it's potential to offend makes it to sensitive an issue for forums like this one.

Define medical?

Interesting...

1. A pathological condition of a part, organ, or system of an organism resulting from various causes, such as infection, genetic defect, or environmental stress, and characterized by an identifiable group of signs or symptoms.
2. A condition or tendency, as of society, regarded as abnormal and harmful.
3. Obsolete Lack of ease; trouble.

So it falls into 2. A disease just means "not normal".

So 24hr soloists are deceased.

EDIT: 😆 I meant diseased.

So... in America normal people are diseased and chubbies are normal?

Lots of people fail to deal with lots of issues. This particular group of issues has a very visible symptom, so people who are more fortunate point and laugh.

Poor show.

I'm curious how stuffing your face could be defined as a disease?

When you know that eating too much makes you fat but you either deny it to yourself or just can't stop anyway, this is mental illness territory. Like alcoholism any other substance abuse.

cant type, eating.

When you know that eating too much makes you fat but you either deny it to yourself or just can't stop anyway, this is mental illness territory. Like alcoholism any other substance abuse.

I think if you've got yourself so massively fat and physically unable through overeating to carry on a "normal" life, there must be a psychological problem driving it. Which makes me feel sorry and empathetic for that person and wonder how they can be helped.

FWIW all the people I know who have problems with their weight are eating too much sugar..

Not necessarily stuffing their faces. Fruit Juice for example, worse than Coke IMO.

If it is a disease or a medical condition it was not present in Belsen.

If calories in are more than calories burnt you will become fat, fact.

We have a woman at work who moans on all day bout her weight.

I once ate 17 slices of pizza at pizza hut in one sitting
some of them were deep dish 8)
no salad

I'm mentally ill and I'm fat, I think the two are separate things for me.

I'm mentally ill(bi-polar) cos I am. I'm fat cos I eat too much,live a really disorganized, sat down playing the guitar all day, scoffing pizza etc.lifestyle and like beer.

Might just be me that tho' tbf.

get behind one at the supermarket till and be amazed at the sheer amount of 'treats' they load onto the conveyor. Not a vegetable in sight, coke by the gallon.

If it is a disease or a medical condition it was not present in Belsen.

There weren't any alcoholics there either.

Just stop drinking you pissheads ......... no one's that thirsty ffs.

I am, it's all the salt in the pizza and chips.

Obesity is very complicated and there are many factors that cause it

If it is a disease or a medical condition it was not present in Belsen.

Stupidest post of the day, well done.

If calories in are more than calories burnt you will become fat, fact.

And the least well informed! On a roll, aren't we?

Btw it's calories STORED that's the issue. There are other factors at work besides how much exercise you do, which is obvious from looking at skinny lazy over-eaters.

Several causes several reasons.

Severally over weight people, I think is more of the metal illness issue, alcoholic type mechanism.

Moderately / slightly over weight (most people), I believe is partly a cultural / society type thing. This idea is based on the fact how much more common being over-weight is in this country compared to many others.

True. Doing the iDave diet (and learning about why it works) teaches you a lot.

Cheers molgrips, knocked you off the top of the podium for once. 😀

Good night, need to sleep to burn some calories off so im not a fat fuc4er when i wake up in the morning.

There's not much to know. We're designed to eat plants and animals which are to hand. We're also designed to gorge on rare hard to find stuff...

Funny how rare hard to find stuff (in nature) is what sells. And makes you fat.

genuine question -

is it better to be an overweight but physically active person (ooh, let's say for sake of argument a middle aged mtb'er who might be carrying a few pounds extra but can easily knock out a 4 hour cross country ride)

or-

someone with a BMI right in the target range but who doesn't do any significant exercise and can't run for a bus without getting out of breath.

the first I would expect

What do you think?

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The correct answer is "the one that is happy with their self-image".

Hmm well it's not just about self image is it?

Most people when feeble and poorly at age 65 due to poor diet and lack of exercise will wish they were healthier earlier in life, I would imagine, regardless of how happy they were at the time.

Dunno. You'll be feeble and poorly eventually. And dead. Not sure it matters much.

I'd rather be feeble and poorly at 105 than 75 tbh.

Depends if all your loved ones die at 75 I guess. Not sure I care.

What do you think?

I genuinely don't know, that's why i asked. I'd think it's probably the overweight person who gets plenty of exercise, but maybe that's wishful thinking because of the two categories that'd be the one I fall into 😳

You read all these reports linking overweight / obesity with diabetes, various cancers, etc. but are these studies normalised - in that I'd expect a higher than usual proportion of obese people are obese because they eat too much of the wrong types of calorific foods, and don't take enough exercise, and is that the main contributory factor then to these types of diseases as opposed to purely having a BMI over a certain number.

BMI is utter crap. With your bit of a porker but active vs skinny sofa dweller the porker may actually have a lower body fat % than the skinny fella. Lots of skinnys are just fat on bones and actually have surprisingly high bf%.