not that it will be anything positive for uk plc,except possibly closer to WW 3,
probably romney, ashe has more money to throw at the election, and hasnt had to run a country as yet.
Obama I reckon. Well I certainly hope so.
Hopefully Romney.
Obama hopefully. Worrying how close it is considering how much of a ****t Romney is.
Paddy Power are already paying out on an Obama win apparently.
If Romney win's i'm confident the world will end pretty soon. I hadn't realised how the US voting system worked until today, but that's why I fear Romney might get in, as most of those with votes that count are likely to want the tax cuts Romney is offering.
According to the analysts Obama is 5 points up in Ohio, the swing state which usually decides the election. But the Redskins lost which means Romney will win. Flip a coin?
If Romney win's i'm confident the world will end pretty soon. I hadn't realised how the US voting system worked until today
So you heard it on Russia today, tv, that romneys son works for the company who make the electronic voting terminals, also strange how thepower is still not on to make them work in the flod hit areas.
Conspiracy theorists eat your hats.
If Romney wins I will seriously despair: Romney is essentially another Dubya.
There was someone on the radio earlier from one of the US Polling companies who was convinced Obama is going to win, based on the sample polls.
Please God, not Romney. Anyone but Romney. If you thought the George W Bush era was bad, wait until you see what kind of epic cockup Mitt the [s]Moron[/s] Mormon makes of it all.
Please God, not Romney. Anyone but Romney. If you thought the George W Bush era was bad, wait until you see what kind of epic cockup Mitt the Moron Mormon makes of it all.
This.
Sadly, the rest of the world pleading with America not to elect Romney is likely to have the opposite effect (see the second Dubya election). We'd be mightily pissed off if, for example, that twunt Bonio started spouting off about who the UK electorate should vote for.
Having said that, one would hope the US public would recognise that Romney appears to hate women, ethnic minorities and the poor, and vote accordingly.
Andy
Pundits all seem convinced Obama will win.
They both are crap at economics but hopefully Obama is slightly less gung ho on the foreign front.
I simply cannot understand/fathom why on earth any compassionate human being of sane mind would vote for Romney (or any republican?), on the way home t'night i listened to PM on R4 and they asked a few American's who they were going to vote for and why?, the voters who came down on the republican side left me gobsmacked with their idiotic reasons for choosing Romney. I feel genuinely sorry for the percentage of decent Americans who may have to put up with this absolute fcuwit mormon if he/his party gets in over Obama.
One of the problems with Obama has been that although they voted him in, based on his policies, at the first opportunity they made sure that the Senate went republican, which pretty much destroyed his chances of making the changes he wanted.
If Obama has failed, the voters must also look at themselves.
Voting Romney in will set America back several years in many ways.
I hope Obama (i think he deserves a 2nd term too- he has done an alright job considering the mess he inherited and then the oppositional tactics in the senate) and think he should just about scrape it
However i'm wary of some Republican shenanigans - the attempts in some areas to disenfranchise voters has been disgusting.
I'm convinced that Romney is not human.
Look at his eyes. It's like looking at one of those creepy masks with a set of eyes moving behind, where you know the eyes do not relate to the face. It's just a shell. Ever seen the Movie Bad Taste? That's Romney.
I bet David Icke has him down as one of the lizard people.
Hoping Obama TBH. I think Romney and foreign policy are a bad mix.
Reckon Romney will just scrape through, too many past Obama voters are not happy enough
Thank heavens the tea parties preferred candidates didn't get this far
The US is ****ed either way.
Yikes:
Obama
The US is ****ed either way.
They are in much better shape than we are
They are in much better shape than we are
Poor people in America are far, far worse off than they are here.
ObamaThe US is ****ed either way.
They are in much better shape than we are
we have power that works, houses made from bricks and an underground that has flood control doors
mikey74 - Member
If Romney wins I will seriously despair: Romney is essentially another Dubya.
Sadly Romney makes dubya look like a card carrying liberal.
/tangent
The American right / tea party scare me. Properly scare me.
having worked with inner city kids in america and the uk i would definately say they have a lot more issues at the poor end of society,
health care in particular really is a joke
the political campaigning system is on another level
would this ever happen here?
[url= http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/11/no-one-in-america-should-have-to-wait-7-hours-to-vote/264506/ ]http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/11/no-one-in-america-should-have-to-wait-7-hours-to-vote/264506/[/url]
health care in particular really is a joke
Only in America could carrying a gun be considered a right and health care be considered a privelege...
Not Romney hopefully, I can see him turning up the heat on Iran in a bad way
Having just got back from New York, it was quite worrying to see the amount of people who oppose Obama... 😐
odds are on Obama
There was discussion on R4 this morning about how it was a problem for Obama that he hasn't expressed wholeheartedly enough that America is the greatest country in the world, and has been chosen by God to lead the world and export American values (this is apparently a key belief of Mormonism). 😕
Not Romney hopefully, I can see him turning up the heat on Iran in a bad way
Indeed:
In December GOP Debate regarding how America should handle Iran:ROMNEY: "I'd get on the phone to my friend Bibi Netanyahu and say, 'Would it help if I said this? What would you like me to do?'"
Mormons also believe that the Garden of Eden is in Missouri.
(Un)fortunately or ( ) fortunately USA always votes Republican in times of need.
Day is protectionist'as by nature init.
IMO Obamas had his day, failed, been lacklustre, forgotten about true USA values that he once held dear, now he's suffering in many many ways.
I have no sympathy, he had the opportunity to do something truly unique and failed, became "another face in the White House" whose only true legacy will be he's Coloured, or Black or whatever were supposed to say these days.
Now before anyone calls me racist, it's a simple fact, noted by the worlds best/ worst media and broadcast day in day out on global tv.
I'm not too sure Romney is the man, but the policies he portrays from a party line will certainly hit home to a lot of Americans,
I lived in Florida for 17 years during my youth, down there it's a real mixed bag of ethnicity, but the Right have a dominance.
It must be nice to "understand" US politics!! Way beyond me!!
Looks like Obama is nudging ahead in the swing-states but still very close. But either way, they still have to deal with the 1 January fiscal cliff whichever side gets in - and fast. Otherwise, the US recovery is dead in the water!
Am I eligible to vote?
Media makes me think I've moved and nobody told me.
Jeremy Vine in an election situation room. Get a grip BBC ffs.
A quick story about David Cameron telling off the UAE for abusing human rights while trying to sell them the means to do it then back to Hugh Edwards who the BBC have flown over. Madness
They are in much better shape than we are
In shorterm energy security maybe, everywhere else not even close.
I have no sympathy, he had the opportunity to do something truly unique and failed
What did you expect with a Republican congress who defeated every bill he tried to pass? I'm indifferent to the guy but it makes me laugh when people say he failed etc. What did you expect?
I think that Francis Fukuyama may have hit it on the head in today's FT.
The election is not really social democracy (Obama) versus limited government/individualistic roots (Romney) despite how it is portrayed. The House will stay Republican and the Senate Democrate - so more policy paralysis as we have had for the past few years? Hence my concern over the fiscal cliff.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/82c53822-2739-11e2-abcb-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2BIULvKvA
Would copy and paste but FT hates this! Sorry if you dont have subscription but hopefully the summary will suffice!!
Obama I hope...but I'm worried. Ending healthcare? Beyond belief.
what thm said
id like to think that most sane governments would be able to unify on the big things in the middle of a global financial crisis;
we all know that lib/lab/torry arent actually that original when it comes to finacial policy
very good Andrew Marr doc about Obamas first term now on BBC2
quite good and balanced too
Romney is an impossible dumbass as far as I can tell. It's not about the fact he's a right wing freak. It's the fact he's so stupid, and it baffles me how he has even got into this position where he could be President of The United States. How does it even happen?
Kevevs : Because very clever Republicans with far too much money, power and influence (the real political powerhouse of the USA) play on the fears of dumb people (50% of the USA if polls are to be believed) and offer them a dumbass meatpuppet who has similar reactionary knee-jerk beliefs to themselves that God gave America the right to do to what ever the **** it wants, when it wants, to whom it wants and you only have to listen to the republicans (party individuals and voters alike) in the countless interviews over the past few weeks to realise that they're ****ing crazy dangerous ****s of the highest order, Romney cosying up to Netanyahu...****less idiot that Romney is along with Netanyahu, ****in zionist war criminal - both should be strung up by the nutsack.
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lol say what you think Somafunk! aye- it's all about money and influence, but it is up to ordinary people to have a little think and vote at the end of the day. it's crazy to me that this guy could be representing the western world. He gives me the creeps.
You needn't worry. it will be Obama. How do I know? I don't, but I'm sensitive to the way that public opinion is manipulated and I feel that the 'slight edge' that Obama is said to have in the swing states is the preperation for the announcement of the result that has been predecided by those really in control. The voters get their "is it him or will it be him?" entertainment, a self-congratulatory glow about how wonderful US democracy is, then it's back to screwing the poor, the working classes, and the rest of the world as usual.
Though it would've been fun having a president with a dog's name...
Cynical? Me? No, just experienced.
