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I haven't read all of this thread as i ain't got all day 🙂
I bought some Goodyear Eagle F1's for my car about 6months ago, and the car felt terrible, i tried the obvious different pressure's etc and nothing made much difference, i emailed goodyear out of curiosity to see what pressure's they recommended for my car, they emailed me back pretty quick and asked me for the number on the sidewall of the tyre which i sent to them, he then mailed me a phone number and said give them a call, so i phoned them up and he suggested the tyres i bought i take them back to the garage i got them from as they were designed for the middle east and not for uk conditions, there is a difference in the compounds and the type of rubber used, anyway took them back to the garage with a copy of the email from Goodyear and they were replaced with some new Goodyear Eagle F1's which this time were made in germany (the other set were made in thailand) and what a difference the car is how it should be...
Just to add it wasn't the garage's fault and they were more than helpfull, they got the tyres off there distributor who was at fault for sourcing probably cheaper than normal good years, the tyres looked identical but the drive is so different....
Ohhh, there you go, an interesting and useful response.
We got there in the end.
😀
indeed
best "what tyre" thread ever
FWIW I've never had tyres that were so bad I spun the car. Even tiny 13" tyres on my ancient Polo that were £20 each. My guess is a combination of road contamination and non-bedded in tyres. 80% of the first.
molgrips - where does driver error come into your equation? There must have been some of it to spin a car....
Ohhh, there you go, an interesting and useful response.We got there in the end.
Think you'll find I posed the very same points in my first few replies to the thread!
EDIT, in fact, 2nd post:
. I am surprised that yokos are THAT poor though, while each tread pattern and compound (different compounds are used across the world, depends on your source and whether they bought cheap ones from abroad) are different, usually the more well known ones are consistently strong but with some tendencies.
<beats chest in a silverback fashion> 😆
I even suggested he return them to see if they were wrong compound.
Still haven't gotten to the bottom of why people are always looking for something else to blame their **** ups on and why they wont entertain the possibility that it was human error.......
Because it's human nature to blame others, hence thats the first place people look. Often those who blame themselves first have serious confidence disorders. Sometimes they're just quite enlightened.
Plus when something out of the ordinary happens when you have done nothing unusual and in a manner that normally causes no harm, it's the logical thing to look for the only item that has changed.
OK, so you've fallen off your bike and need hospital treatment urgently. Goan, SpeshPaul and njee20 each turn up in an ambulance and offer to drive you the 320 miles along winding mountain roads to the nearest hospital for lifesaving medical attention. based upon what you know of each of them, which ambulance do you crawl into?
Don't know if I missed something, but I always think new tyres seem a bit iffy for the first few hundred miles. Doesn't it say something about being careful until they are run in on the guarantee?
OK, so you've fallen off your bike and need hospital treatment urgently. Goan, SpeshPaul and njee20 each turn up in an ambulance and offer to drive you the 320 miles along winding mountain roads to the nearest hospital for lifesaving medical attention. based upon what you know of each of them, which ambulance do you crawl into?
The helicopter
Goan, SpeshPaul and njee20 each turn up in an ambulance and offer to drive you the 320 miles along winding mountain roads to the nearest hospital for lifesaving medical attention. based upon what you know of each of them, which ambulance do you crawl into?
LOL!
No offence to any involved, but I think I'd walk. I'm quite distrusting of just about everyone's driving.
I'd be wondering when outer mongolia got ambulances and hospitals and htf i got there.
well after reading 2 pages of bull shit thought i would say a few words on the subject
tyres are a man made product primaly made up of oil and polomers and compounds the cheaper versions out there being made to a price and probaley taking longer to stop in the wet as a more well known brand
with regrad to your problem my thoughts on the matter would be that it would be more of hitting some diesal on the road etc rather than the poor handling of the tyre even though i am not an adovacte of yokohamas and seeing as it was on a roundabout this is a usual occurance but not on a regular basis
with regrad to your combitation how much depth have your fronts have ? maybe you could try these on the back with the yokos on the front to see if they will bed in
tyres dont have mould agents on them but do need in some very rare cases
need to be run a few miles to have the silca coating worn off this coating thats on them is too stop premature ageing when they are taken out of the mould this is because a tyre starts aging as soon as it leaves the mould
another scenerio is the cars stabilty isnt right due to you having 2 different tyres on but usual only find it a problem with more high powered cars
try taking to the tyre dealer who sold you the tyres and get them to get a field service engineer from Yokoahama to get involved
have you had any adjusment done to the cars tracking front or rear and was this done at the same time as the tyres being replaced was it by a ford dealership? if so then you need to question wether this was done correctly? tyres main function and how they work is for the oil content in the tyre tread area when driving is for it to work simliar with warming oils on our muscles prior to excise except in the tyres case by driving forward the friction created by rolling over a tramac road warms the oil up changeing the compound in the tread area thus for it to then maintain grip and also to give a certain amount of life as you the motorist looks for ie milage usual the cheaper the product in some cases the longer the life but poorer the grip
well thats my rant and before you start have being sellig tyres for the last 40 years in which some of them have included doing some competion work ie rallyng so do have a fair knowledge of them and to be honest they are all much of the same some more suited to a particular car/driver then the next but you do get a better product the more you go up the price ladder
my current brand which i have to say to be an all round type is call Toyo and have sold and fitted it to most types of vechlies with out any problems
Any chance of the abridged version?
Jesus tetchytim - my eyes are bleeding from the lack of punctuation, lack of sentence structure or apparent point in the post, you've just contributed to the pages of bullshit! What exactly was your point at the end of it all? I think I made out, and I paraphrase, "yokos are not your favourite but it sounds possible it's the diesel" and "was the alignment done, and was it done correctly". Is that right? Then there was something about oils massaging your tyre and muscles....?
Baffled.
well after reading 2 pages of bull shit
hmmmm. Nice start...
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outer mongolia has both hospitals and ambulances - i speak through experience
i'd rather have my ex mother in law drive me than goan. i may die on the way, but it wouldn't be from boredom.......
i'd rather have my ex mother in law drive me than goan.
I'd rather crawl the 320 winding miles on my face! Whilst someone flogged me and poured salt into my open wounds. 😉
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