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poke through accident?
so instead we [s]waste[/s] plant forests in a poor attempt to solve a problem
Ftfy
Lots of bathroom related bad designs on this thread, so what about the sink plug mechanism with the pull up/push down mechanism? Pretty much every hotel I have stayed in has a faulty one of these where you run the water for a shave and by the time you are foamed up the water has all gone.
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Staropramen glasses. I thought it was just me that somehow always splashed beer into my own eye. Turns out it's the shape of the glass.
Our current flat has these Polypipe UFH room stats.
They're cabled - so there could be power running to them- yet they take 4 Aaa batteries.
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Taps in general.
Dirty hand - use dirty hand to open tap.
Water runs for some time while warm water approaches - 5-10l wasted.
200ml of warm water required.
Rinse hands.
?Repeat - water continues to run entire time. Probably too hot at this point.
?Faff with other tap to add cold water.
Use clean hand to turn water off, by touching same part of tap as you stated with.
I WAS going to do my 3rd year Design Project on it, but was advised too boring.
One day I will make ALL the sinks.
And while we're at it, I'll flush the loo with grey water.
You will thank me 🙂
You're welcome.
I'm with you on GU10.
And also the original USB, with what feels like rotational symmetry, must must be plugged in the right way up. Shite.
Wash your hands in cold you fool.
some sort of child friendly linux distro
Kano?
As for button flys, they rule, if done properly.
Oh, and foot operated Taps, Italian style, rule.
What else? Oh yes, I have a slow closing closing toilet seat already. Silent.
Another one for toilet paper being a crap (s****) pointless design- and why do we need a 50ft section in the supermarket full of paper varieties. Why do we wipe our arse and spread fecal bacteria using dry paper - is it an ideal solution?, if so then why do we wash our hands with soap and water when dirty rather than attempt to rub them clean with a dry towel?.
Bidet, wet wipes or suchlike or perhaps a jug of water and soap thank you very much.
Kelvin, and molgrips [perhaps] falling for my trap, hhahaha....!
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The 5 Fundamental Fallacies of Design:
(i) This design is satisfactory for me - it will therefore be satisfactory for everybody else
(ii) This design is satisfactory for the average person - it will therefore be satisfactory for everybody else.
(iii) The variability of human beings is so great that it cannot possibly be catered for in any design - but since people are so wonderfully adaptable it doesn't matter anyway.
(iv) Ergonomics is expensive and since products are actually purchased on appearance and styling, ergonomics considerations may be conveniently ignored.
(v) Ergonomics is an excellent idea. I always design with ergonomics in mind - but I do it intuitively and rely on on my common sense so I don't need tables of data.
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--Foot operated taps seem like a logical solution, yes?
But you're making a fairly serious assumption, the ability to press down on the button. Having entered a non-adapted toilet it's logical to assume most people have the use of their hands, for which a tap is well suited. However, the use of a leg to press down on the tap/button is not something that can be assumed to follow. the user may be in a wheelchair, the user may have a leg in a cast and the're unable to balance if they have to use the other leg to press down on the button....
RE - cold water - if you have only cold water, how is this going to affect older people, with poor circulation [aging population], those with arthritis, or just how do you think you'll feel yourself on a cold day? Are you even going to get a commission for the design if you exclude a hot tap?
Further - having taken this into consideration, let's say you've found a way to replace the taps, what about the space on the top of a standard sink? You're taking the taps away, but the sinks will come with holes for them. So now you need either a non-standard sink, or another item to fit into the holes in the standard sink you have been specified to use.
And then people go and say "These designers are daft"! 😀
[quote=gofasterstripes ]Taps in general.
Dirty hand - use dirty hand to open tap.
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Use clean hand to turn water off, by touching same part of tap as you stated with.
Which is why the taps on our kitchen sink look similar to these:
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which you can turn on and off with your elbows, thus avoiding the need to touch them with dirty hands. They're the only taps I've had to replace in our house, though if and when I have to replace any others it will be with something similar. So it is possible, but how far down I had to go in the image search suggests they're not very common.
^ those taps above
Bend down to rinse your face after washing
Both eyes poked out 😉
separate taps...useless design
They're the only taps I've had to replace in our house, though if and when I have to replace any others it will be with something similar. So it is possible, but how far down I had to go in the image search suggests they're not very common.
If you google for hospital taps, you get this first hit:
http://www.bathroom2u.com/bathroom-taps-valves-medical-taps-c-154_1087.html?gclid=CPLcuLjh18ICFY3JtAodtA4ATA
Bus stops.
Of focal points for ****wits to congregate round and block the pavement for everybody else.
Bus stops are a great idea. Roads that are built for cars not mass transit are a terrible idea.
Nonono you misunderstand.
Just the design of bus stops not the concept of people using public transport.
Or more specifically the bus shelter designed to half the useable width of a pavement and promote congregation on the other half thus blocking the whole pavement.
You're an edinburger i think Northwind south side of princes street opposite jenners. A classic example, a bus shelter takes more than half the pavement which is bounded by the metal railings, that section is extremely bisy, the shelter doesn't provide nearly enough shelter anyway and to physically get to it people have already been exposed to the elements. Made worse still when an actual bus arrives and every body crams in from 180degrees.
Literally bad design that does not take in to account the stupidity of a flock of humans.
A regular sight to see pedestrians resorting to walking infront of the bus shelter on the road or perhaps designing for mass transport is more important than pedestrian transport as I'm sure you're aware that section is car free and has to provide a route for a bus lane for stopping, a bus lane for moving and also accomodate a tram all on a street designed before the existance of motorcars.
joshvegas - MemberOr more specifically the bus shelter designed to half the useable width of a pavement and promote congregation on the other half thus blocking the whole pavement.
Nah, that's a perfectly decent design, squeezed into too small a space by the road
Which makes it a bad design for a bus stop. The road can't be any narrower the current "design" forces non bus stop users into using the road to bypass it.
A well designed bus stop would encourage pasengers to cue, the edge closest to uncoming bus should prevent people accessing the entrance to bus which with make it pointless to gather in a huddle a long narrow bus shelter would be a better design. Additionally the space in the lane infront of the bus is wasted space, a half lane thickening of the pavement would provide more waiting space out of the flow of fot traffic while still allowing busses to exit the stop and rejoin the moving lane in a merging maneuver.
And not building a stupid tram that would help too.
Topeak defender front. Honestly, do these people ride bikes or just look at them stationary? Did no-one consider that a full 6" of loose flapiness in both planes would not be desirable? Or do you just not give a shit, having already pocketed my £20?
Did no-one consider that a full 6" of loose flapiness in both planes would not be desirable?
if it was that obvious, why did you buy it?
Cos it was only obvious after I fitted it to a bike....
The act of reclining the seat is not selfish, but at least 50% of the people I have sat behind just recline their seat without even looking, let alone asking if it is ok. That's the selfish bit.
I've never understood this gripe. If the person if front reclines their seat (by the whole inch or so it moves), you can recline yours as well and you have exactly the same amount of space you started with. And if the reclining knocks over your cup, you're a buffoon for putting it there.
what about the sink plug mechanism with the pull up/push down mechanism? Pretty much every hotel I have stayed in has a faulty one of these where you run the water for a shave and by the time you are foamed up the water has all gone.
I'll see your uppy-downy plug and raise you the ones that are permanently attached on a diametric axle. So you get washed, dry your hands, then realise you have to fish about in the grubby water to push the side of the plug down and then dry your hands again.
Taps in general.
The ones the annoy me are the water-saving push-button ones you often get in public toilets. You know, the ones where the delay mechanism wore out long ago and shut off as soon as you let go of the bastard thing, so you can only wash one hand at once.
Sam, you do know that the Italians have taps you can operate with either your feet or your hands, don't you? Crazy old things with bar levers going from floor to tap. I like your long over complicated critique of a few one line throw away comments though. Your assumption that only you can think about things in terms other than black and white is an interesting view into how your mind works, carry on…
Ssangyong Rodius
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the ones where the delay mechanism wore out long ago and shut off as soon as you let go of the bastard thing, so you can only wash one hand at once.
It's not that hard. Wet hands, soap up and rub without running the water, then rinse one at a time.
I didn't say it was hard, I said it annoyed me. Which it does, unless you know better than I do what I find annoying?
Is it more or less annoying than arguing with me on STW?
About the same.
[quote=ElShalimo ]Ssangyong Rodius
I not sure that was 'designed'.
Ssangyong Rodius
Anyone else noticed the bizzies used one of these in the last episode of [i]The Fall [/i]the other night??
Is it more or less annoying than arguing with me on STW?
That's not an argument, it's just contradiction.
And, yes, I did wonder...! (-:
[quote=Cougar ]The ones the annoy me are the water-saving push-button ones you often get in public toilets. You know, the ones where the delay mechanism wore out long ago and shut off as soon as you let go of the bastard thing, so you can only wash one hand at once.
The showers at the swimming pool which work* on a similar principle
*don't
I presume they're fine when new, but seem to wear out far too quickly and then never get repaired, so that rather than pushing the button and having a shower, then pushing the button again when it stops in a minute or two you have to continuously hold the button in. Though the disabled shower with a handy low level touch pad is even worse - it clearly does work as it sometimes comes on, but I've never worked out the magic sequence to get it to do so (my kids like to use it as they can reach the button and don't have trouble pushing it - youngest has decided that it works if you walk a few metres away before walking back and pressing the button).
[quote=molgrips ]Is it more or less annoying than arguing with me on STW?
My personal aim is to always make it more annoying for the person I'm arguing with - I figure I'm ahead if I manage that. How am I doing?
you can recline yours as well and you have exactly the same amount of space you started with
I can assure you that if you're pretty much on the limit of an airline seat with the seat in front not reclined, reclining it reduces space whether you recline your own seat or not.
Or more often, you prevent the seat in front from reclining. Mind you, I got an upgrade to business once when the guy in front stopped to a hostess about this and because he was so unpleasant, they moved me instead 🙂
GU10 is a great shout.
I'd add any Audi S-Line spec, why do I want a car with the ride comfort of a horse and cart with solid wheels?
The new look Guardian website (and in same vein the current BBC Sport website).
Yeah New look Guardian website is hideous
DO you think it is like that because so many right wing folk go there to troll and they say they like it when asked?
Haven't read all the posts but for me it is the useless plastic bags that rice comes in. However careful you are the bags split and rice goes everywhere.
@Malvern Rider
She is wearing those shoes back to front though isn't she?
Is it more or less [s]annoying[/s] satisfying than arguing with me on STW?
FTFY 😉
The mild steel metal coolant pipe attached to my T4 engine.
The coolant is no longer in the pipes as its rusted through.
£70 replacement for a steel pipe too. Why would you use a metal that corrodes so easily.
Been there, on a T4. Also on an A3. Also on an A4.
Cracking pit of pipe that. Tried gluing, brazing, soldering. You have to get a new one to fix.