Suspect there are more but the stories Fleming wrote were just about the adventures and escapades of 1 of them...
Maybe this will be part of the reboot franchise move-to-marvel type thing...the new bond films will be about others.
Now they have killed him anyone else has no James Bond back story unless they now tell stories about the smaller stuff happening in between the bigger bits of all the other films. With no back story they can now do nonsense stories about others and tag them as a Bond movie.
Thought it was ok but not much more than that. Didn't feel long though. I suspect Moneypenny would make a great new 007
I quite enjoyed it, yeah the nanobots thing was poor but they are just a McGuffin... Blofeld could easily be resurrected as this has happened so many times before (either with Cristoph Waltz who I think is really good, or someone else). The old cars were great to see and I thought it was a decent script, better than some of the Craig era ones.
It wouldn't be too hard to write the replacement bond in, could just start wherever they wanted and just ignore that another actor has played it, other Bonds have had no use of a lot of backstory. Could do one or two with a woman Bond just because they could, no reason not to chop and change the lead more regularly.
Bond films are stupid films. Stop trying to make them something they’re not.
That's the problem for me. If they want to make a serious film, it needs to be logical and not full of loopholey crap that a 5 year old could see through. Nobody ever watches something like Blues Brothers and complains about it being full of loopholes, because it is meant to be ridiculous. (OMG, the nun can levitate, why can't she sort her own funding out?) But. for example, as soon as you start having long emotional scenes about characters that nobody cares about - I'm thinking Felix here - you lose half your audience.
When did Daniel Craig lose the ability to act? He was supposed to be a proper actor, iirc, but his one emotion is 'impassive'. Even Roger Moore could do more than one expression. And without getting too personal, Craig has the body of a 50 year old dad, not a coiled spring super-spy. His gut was sticking out in one scene. Did he lose his corset?
As ever, the Screen Rant pitch is bang on the money 🙂
As Idlejon says, they've made this reboot of Bond all interlinked, so it's no longer the old Bond movies that stand alone, these are meant to flow and make sense, which this last one didn't really do that well.
So many gripes, but for me, Spectre getting wiped out at one party in one moment, we've just heard how they were so shady they just appeared out of nowhere and nobody knew how they did it, who they were and what they were up to, but that's how this Bond series tied up the Spectre thing, it was funny though, but i don't think it was meant to be ;o)
Spectre ............., we’ve just heard how they were so shady they just appeared out of nowhere and nobody knew how they did it, who they were and what they were up to
Hey guys, let's have a party somewhere really classy and glitzy, because that's the type of organisation we are! Wooooo..
Well, i thought it was great fun, as Bond films generally are
Way better than Spectre, but i suppose this one makes Spectre a bit better as its tee'd this film up nicely
If your complaining that its another 'typical Bond movie which doesn't add anything blah blah blah' then i think you're a bit daft going to see the 25th installment of the most formulative movie series ever....
Pretty sad at the end, but I welled up more when they killed M in Skyfall
They'll reboot it and i'll be one of the first to see them and i'll continue to watch the re-runs at Xmas or Sunday afternoon hangovers going forward
Also, i even managed to avoid the need for a pee, whilst drinking wine - not bad for a 45 year old!
Wish I had read this before I went to see it last night.
I am hard at hearing - not massively so - but the dialogue track was absolutely rubbish. Both Malek and Bond's love interest bubbled all the way though the film. so much so that I had no idea what was going on.
Malek also seems to have left the false teeth in from the Queen movie - and speaks without this top lip moving at all.
From what I good fathom out it was a lot of car chases and bangs and crashes linked to gather by a story which had no plot. And as many have mentioned here - what was the end game / why was he doing it.
Saw this, slightly against my will today, it's pretty rubbish all told.
2 things in particular just left me confused - 1 the machine guns: how come there are so many machine gun users who can't shoot a static target? Time and again brrrrrbangbrrrr and Bond turns and shoots them. It's ****ing stupid after the 10th time, but after the 50th time, it's like why can't they think of something else to fill the action/fights with? Just keep on doing the old machine gun miss, Bond turns and kills the gunner. Boring as shite.
and 2, the script. It was awful, the "jokes" fell flat nearly every single time "you sound like you're in a rugby scrum" What?! and the "conversations" were just bizarre. Bond: "What is this?" Madeleine: "You don't know what this is". Just 2 that particularly jarred.
So bored by the end of a very poor film.
Just got back from it. We both enjoyed it and it tied up the reboot well I think. Got a bit dusty at the end too, very predictable but very well done.
Agree with the points above about the nanobots being all a bit shite, but the other bits in the film that left me a bit meh were the various landrover crashes (cgi surely - not the crashes, more the jumps) and HMS Daring, being a destroyer, isn't packing a load of vertical launched cruise missiles cum icbm warhead things. That look like big fireworks.
I thought the many sequences where bond was attacking the baddies were very well shot (in the forest and climbing up to the control room). Many seemed to have been filmed in one big take too.
Ana de Armas. Hubba and indeed bubba.
(cgi surely – not the crashes, more the jumps)
Definitely real, I know this as I supplied the ramps they used to get airborne 😉
Enjoyed it, good family evening out. Favourite bit was when Q opened one of his high tech drawers to reveal his tea set- laughed out loud.
I am hard at hearing – not massively so – but the dialogue track was absolutely rubbish. Both Malek and Bond’s love interest bubbled all the way though the film. so much so that I had no idea what was going on.
I'm glad you said that, I found a lot of the speech very muffled.
Definitely real, I know this as I supplied the ramps they used to get airborne 😉
Wow, I too had assumed the jumps were CGI assisted seeing how far they got the hideously overweight w-anchor tractors to fly. I would presume they would have also had to strengthen them to take the landing which would have added to the weight further.
Wow, I too had assumed the jumps were CGI assisted seeing how far they got the hideously overweight w-anchor tractors to fly. I would presume they would have also had to strengthen them to take the landing which would have added to the weight further.
You'll see the ramps here
Thing is I think LR shot themselves in the foot a bit. If I wanted a vehicle to evade pursuers then Id save my money and go for an old Toyota Landcrusier from the last Century 😉
Definitely real, I know this as I supplied the ramps they used to get airborne
I stand corrected! I'm still gonna wonder whether there was some cgi work done behind the defenders when they dropped into the riverbank. All looked a bit too clean somehow. Maybe a dodgy download might be obtained to help me nerd this out.
yeah, there was a thread on here a while back, this scene is basically an advert for the new Defender, which is a bit lame!Definitely real, I know this as I supplied the ramps they used to get airborne
Also with the destroyer (HMS Dragon apparently, didn't notice whether the dragon graphics on it are visible during the film though!), again there was involvement from the RN so I assume that wasn't CGI, don't know about the missile launch specifically - there [I]are[/I] missiles there but yeah they are not Cruise missiles or anything.
EDIT: I googled it! -
An MOD spokesperson, however, told Forces News that "no weapons were fired during the filming", suggesting that Dragon's firing scenes were created using CGI special effects.In reality, missiles fired from Dragon's Sea Viper weapon system used on board these warships can blow a moving target out of the sky from more than 70 miles away.
Finally went to see it at the local UGC. Enjoyed the story and the stunts...but I have to say...the movie was so dark and gloomy (literally). Every scene seemed to be dimly lit and/or colourless; even the opening chase scenes in sunny Italy looked bleached and washed-out. Other scenes had characters in near darkness. Obviously JB does not have to look like a mid-90s MTB race but even so, it detracted from the experience.
That's the point about the ship; it's an air defence vessel with limited ground/anti ship attack capabilities. Last time one they attacked something onshore I think they used the main gun. (HMS Liverpool, Libya).
I am hard at hearing – not massively so – but the dialogue track was absolutely rubbish. Both Malek and Bond’s love interest bubbled all the way though the film. so much so that I had no idea what was going on. I’m glad you said that, I found a lot of the speech very muffled.
Thump - who wears hearing aids - said exactly the same thing.
Again: He particularly struggled with Freddy Mercury's dialogue.
Next time I'll book the captioned showing.
I thought the whole point was that he’d never have been able to see Madeleine and Mathilde again due to being infected with the nanobots that would kill them so he effectively chose his own death.
Not just that he cant see them again, he cant touch anyone, as they will pass it on and have the Madeleine killing we-cant-use-the-word-virus circulating the globe.
In a few years will we get a directors cut where they use the word virus?
Well I enjoyed it.
Not just that he cant see them again, he cant touch anyone, as they will pass it on and have the Madeleine killing we-cant-use-the-word-virus circulating the globe.
Just how many nanobots did Bond absorb? For it get all the way around the globe, aren't we talking about homeopathic levels of potency?
Just come out... I've left in floods of tears!
James Bond is dead
Unbelievable
For 40odd years he's always been there, being my/our hero.
The world is a different place now.
(my mum died 6 weeks ago 😢)
Sorry to hear that Ro5ey. I'd like to say that you're being a wuss about Bond dying but after my mother died I was in floods of tears about a character in Coronation St dying. I've never watched Corrie!
I thought it was amazing, finally a Bond worth watching!
Seem it last week. Absolutely fabulous movie, great story, nice use of the Bond Universe and a cracking way to close the saga.
Finally seen it tonight, having avoided all spoilers.
Amazing film. So many nods back to previous films, some subtle, some not. Fantastic writing to pull it all together. Just the right side of too much at the end. It was dusty for a few moments. James Bond is dead, long live 007?
Saw it with LittleMissMC, almost 15, who has never knowingly watched a Bond film, and did know the ending. She loved it too, and came out wanting to watch a few more.
I've told her to expect to be disappointed, and to avoid Moonraker.
. She loved it too, and came out wanting to watch a few more.
I’d start her off on Spectre to get the back story for NTTD
Just stick to the DC Bond, the older films will likely be seen as relics by someone her age.
Just stick to the DC Bond, the older films will likely be seen as relics by someone her age.
Fair point.
Not a bond fan but was the only film on our ferry back from France so seemed a reasonable way to kill a couple of hours, on a positive note I quite liked the opening credits 😀
Utter drivel. When the sound lost synch with the film, I didn’t care. If there had been an interval, I’d have left. I was expecting the four year old to have been trained properly by her mother and have Bond pass her the gun to shoot the villain. But I guess that 4yo shooting adults doesn’t cut it with an American audience. What was the pool of acid with neon lights for? How many focus groups did the line “kill your race” pass through?
At least an old Toyota shows up the latest Land Rovers 😂.
Why didn’t his EMP watch disable the nonobots?
And his earpiece?
Just in from watching it. I really have no recollection of seeing it.
Still, there were comfy chairs, beer and it only cost £6.
I thought it was a great film although, as it is a work of fiction, there are always going to be things that jar slightly. Whether that be plot holes, the usual nonsense with car chases, almost impossible travel etc. The final notice at the end of the credits though suggests this is not the end of Bond..... Just remains to be seen whether the next films start with a ludicrous escape from destruction or whether the future Bond films are historic ie missions that happened while he was still alive.
yes obviously they aren’t just going to give up their billion dollar franchise! I don’t even think they’ll do anything clever or interesting, just a straight reboot with a new actor, back to business as usual. (Definite possibility of spin-off films/tv series on Amazon though!)The final notice at the end of the credits though suggests this is not the end of Bond….. Just remains to be seen whether the next films start with a ludicrous escape from destruction or whether the future Bond films are historic ie missions that happened while he was still alive.
20 minutes in and I thought it was going to be rubbish. 40 minutes in I thought it was predictable and rubbish. 1hr in I was ready to leave.
Shame really as I have liked most of the previous DC films.
Are they really going to make his daughter the next James Bond? Maybe thats what it is.... maybe his daughter has a sex change to a boy and becomes the next Bond?
If they do have the next Bond as a female I will not be watching it
The Broccoli family (who IIRC have final say over everything) have gone on record to say this will never happen. Although, someone did once say Never Say Never 🤔If they do have the next Bond as a female I will not be watching it
If they do have the next Bond as a female I will not be watching it
why's that then? Worked for Star Wars and Battlestar Galactica. (to name two off the top of my head)
FWIW I think they'll just pick another middle aged white and and carry on as if nothing's happened, but I think Bond could work equally well as a woman.
why’s that then? Worked for Star Wars and Battlestar Galactica. (to name two off the top of my head)
Because James Bond is a character with a backstory (Dead parents / Avalanche / Scotland / Eton / Modern Languages at Cambridge, white, male etc.), it is not a code name that can be applied to anyone. A fresh re-boot of this same character can be done just as they have done before with Craig.
007 on the other hand is a code name and I'd be happy to see them use the 007 for any gender / ethnicity they fancy (like they have done), be that in the same films as Bond or their own films or TV series.
If they do have the next Bond as a female I will not be watching it
As an MI6 agent who's cover appears to be "rich and well educated Brit with no job on a seemingly random globetrotting tour of high end hotels" and whose primary method of infiltration and information gathering is "seducing a member of the criminal organisation or their adult children", a mid to late twenties female makes a lot more practical sense.
Because James Bond is a character with a backstory
Precisely; he is a fictional character. You can do what you like with it. Which is probably what the studio will do. Ignore the last 40 years and start again with some other actor, and really no one will care once they got over it. Why You could not do that with a woman in the role?
Are they really going to make his daughter the next James Bond? Maybe thats what it is…. maybe his daughter has a sex change to a boy and becomes the next Bond?
What a lot of piffle.
Am I the only one who came away thinking "James Bond is dead, long live 007", whoever he or she may be?
Unless they decide it was all a terrible dream in a shower, obviously.
