So the implication is parents were feeding them worse food in the evening as they felt they'd had a healthy lunch. So we can conclude the policy will lead to no positive outcome in food behaviour
No, the pilot report notes that:
[i]Children in the universal pilot areas were less likely to report eating crisps at least once a day than children in the comparison areas. This was seen to suggest that the reduction in crisp consumption at lunchtime did not lead children to eat crisps in the afternoon and/or evening instead. [/i]
Which sounds like a positive outcome to me. As does this :
[i]The universal pilot was seen to have had a significant positive impact on attainment for primary school pupils at Key Stages 1 and 2, with pupils in the universal pilot areas making between four and eight weeks’ more progress than similar pupils in comparison areas. [/i]
You don't have kids LHS, do you?
If that's snobbery, then I am a snob.My kids will not be eating Sausage, Chips and Chocolate cake for lunch.
What? Ever? I bet your kids will really, really thank you for that.
Anyway... you seem bizarrely reticent with furnish us with what your own children's culinary utopia consists of
Are you going to tell us then? I thought a self-confessed snob as yourself would be itching to show off their superior (organic? Free-range?) menu choices.
GO on..... dazzle us thick chip eaters....... you know you want too.....
EDIT: On second thoughts, I agree with Yunki. You've definitely not got kids. If you had there is no way on this earth you could make a statement like that 😆
I can't see how Nick Clegg can possibly claim this was his idea when the thinking behind it, and associated pilots in deprived parts of London actually came from a review that Gove sponsored and which was delivered by Henry Dimbleby (yes, it is the same family...) and his co-founder of Leon, John Vincent.
Gove signed off all of the recommendations put forward by the review months ago including "free school meals" for all so Nick Clegg is at best disingenuous at best to claim this is his work.
A typical lunch bag for my kids would have a banana, an apple, some trail mix or nuts, a yogurt and either a small sandwich or pot of salad.
Assuming they receive a proper breakfast and a proper evening meal, then this is an excellent lunch.
The issue originally under discussion here however is that there are a large number of very young schoolchildren in the UK who routinely receive neither a proper breakfast nor a proper evening meal, so your lunch would be nutritionally inadequate for them, and its those children that this proposal is seeking to help the most.
Education of parents is required,In camps presumably comrade?
Yes if you must... 🙄
Some people choose to eat unhealthily for a number of reasons, their choice. Others have been brought up that way and know no different. Educating parents about the importance of providing your children with a balanced diet can only be a good thing surely? Not quite sure how this equates with a left wing politics.
I didn't say ever did I, but in your hysteric reply you selectively like to miss things and make things up.
My kids rarely eat sausages, that is one food I try to ensure they don't have and yes, they will thank me for it. Chocolate cake is fair game, but not as a healthy lunch every day!
A typical lunch bag for my kids would have a banana, an apple, some trail mix or nuts, a yogurt and either a small sandwich or pot of salad.
Lots of sugar in there. Not really very healthy.
Some people choose to eat unhealthily for a number of reasons, their choice. Others have been brought up that way and know no different. Educating parents about the importance of providing your children with a balanced diet can only be a good thing surely? Not quite sure how this equates with a left wing politics.
You're talking about educating children who go on to become parents. I hope. Which is fine.
You can't educated adults can you. Without sending them to camps.
Not quite sure how this equates with a left wing politics.
Of course it does. You hardcore commies are all the same. I bet you agree with fluoride in drinking water, to make "your teeth strong". Yeah right.
You can't educated adults can you. Without sending them to camps.
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You can't educated adults can you. Without sending them to camps.
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EDIT : Snap !
So would you stop them going to parties where typical fare or a trip to a fast food eaterie was on the cards?
Their lunch looks very healthy, a little on the light side depending on their age, but no doubt they are thriving so well done. Still interested in the party food question and not as a pop at you or your parenting. Mine have / do get quite a few party invites over the course of the year and I'm pretty sure that trail mix has never been part of the offering. 🙂
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You can't educated adults can you. Without sending them to camps.
OK, sorry I didn't spot the trolling earlier. Hands up, you got me hook, line and sinker. 😳
Coyote - MemberSome people choose to eat unhealthily for a number of reasons, their choice. Others have been brought up that way and know no different. Educating parents about the importance of providing your children with a balanced diet can only be a good thing surely?
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Why no sausages then LHS? Why is the humble banger on the [b]verbotten[/b] list then?
and yes, they will thank me for it.
Yes.... good luck with that! 😆
My kids rarely eat sausages, that is one food I try to ensure they don't have
Why on earth are they not allowed to eat sausages?
This thread has descended into comedic farce, with one or two contributors making themselves look like complete dicks. I'd say it's done.
BUT
The serious bit. I simply can't ignore the issue of overprivileged kids gorged on mini naans. I can't.
See; your mini naans: that's your immigrants that is. Corrupting our good honest hardworking stodgy, bland and utterly unappetising British School Meals , with their exciting, nutritious and flavoursome foodstuffs.
Undermining traditional British values and Democracy. Thin end of the wedge. Rivers of blood.
BAN THE MINI NAAN! BAN IT NOW!
Why on earth are they not allowed to eat sausages?
Because they are unhealthy, they are a processed food coming from the left over bits from the animal, usually containing a high level of fat.
Why on earth are they not allowed to eat sausages?
It could be a religious thing.
EDIT : No, it's because they are leftover bits of animals.
. You missed sarcastic simpleton as wellBinners, you seem to be very angry and rude. Not sure why.
Because they are unhealthy, they are a processed food coming from the left over bits from the animal, usually containing a high level of fat.
All that sugar you're giving them is worse for you than a little bit of fat. It's not the 1970s any more - thought most people knew this by now?
Do you think bread isn't a processed food btw?
I like this thread
I'm hungry
left over bits from the animal
Ensuring that all the animal is used with little waste, surely a good thing? Even those Mediterranean types with their ridiculously healthy diets eat chorizo and salami.
Why on earth are they not allowed to eat sausages?
Must be the shape. Penis envy is a terrible affliction.
What about cocktail sausages ?
I've just had the same lunch as my son (packed lunch). Come to think of it though, why don't I get cherry tomatos in my lunch box 😕
I'm hungry
Be honest: it was the thought of mini naans, wasn't it?
[i]Deviant.[/i]
Kids getting a better standard of food.
Some control over what they eat so the afternoons aren't interrupted by sugar fuelled mayhem or lethargy brought about by eating too little.
Educating them about a balanced diet.
...and I'm going to ne £1600 better off!
Because they are unhealthy, they are a processed food coming from the left over bits from the animal, usually containing a high level of fat.
Ahh I see. So you are not averse to them eating sausages per se, you are just averse to the idea of them eating what you assume the contents of a sausage to be?
I like this thread
Can't say I do...Pg1 was a bit of a low watermark even for STW.
Your link recommends 20 grams of sausages per day LHS.
Are your children getting their recommended daily 20 grams of sausages ?
I suspect not.
From your link LHS:
A spokesperson said: "People who eat a lot of red and processed meat should consider cutting down."[b]However a little bit of meat, even processed meat, had health benefits in the study.[/b]
Ursula Arens from the British Dietetic Association told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that putting fresh meat through a mincer did not make it processed meat.
"Something has been done to it to extend its shelf life, or to change its taste, or to make it more palatable in some way... and this could be a traditional process like curing or salting."
She said even good quality ham or sausages were still classed as processed meat, while homemade burgers using fresh meat were not.
And as for the tag at the top of the page, I discovered this morning that I agree with a Tory minister, how do you think I feel about that ?
if everyone in the study consumed no more than 20g of processed meat a day then 3% of the premature deaths could have been prevented.
They didn't quote a minimum consumption.
I guess i shouldn't mention the fact that i don't let them drink cows milk either.
Not even from friendly cows?
Not even from friendly cows?
There was once a nice russian cow which smiled at them nicely, they had a glass of that.
Who's milk are they allowed to drink then ?
Wolf milk.
Nuts!
LHS is my little sister and I claim my non-monetary lets scheme vouchers to be redeemed for (organic) goods or services
Topic closed.
Topic Closed.
You lot are chubby ...
Stop eating children's share.
5, 4, 3 ...
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^ that looks like a really good menu. I wish school meals were of that standard when I was a kid.
Yeah it looks broadly similar to our kids' menu too - although theirs is on a three-week cycle.
