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She’s always helped the NHS in the past
Without any understanding of why people are in that situation of course in a “If I am like this why isn’t everybody like me” level of ignorance adopted by anyone with zero empathy.
The clue is in the cartoon itself. It's shaped like a Maccie D's cup.
Do you not think there’s any sociological reasons why people make poor diet choices, which may not effect the pampered middle classes trolls?
Pampered middle class lol.
You don’t think anthea Turner is the epitome of pampered middle class? Or are you admitting being the troll in this one 😉
Do you not think there’s any sociological reasons why people make poor diet choices, which may not effect the pampered middle classes trolls?
Definitely but trying to turn it into a class war isn't solving anything. There's also a lot of unhealthy middle class people as well. Doesn't really matter what your income level is, will power, genetics and to a certain extent basic education are the defining factors on your health (although pretty much everyone knows being overweight, smoking and drinking are bad for you).
Doesn’t really matter what your income level is, will power, genetics and to a certain extent basic education are the defining factors on your health
Yep,definitely doesn’t matter what your income level is when looking at poor diet choices
Results
Compared to lower income households, after adjusting for education, marital status and race, higher income households had significantly higher HEI total scores (mean [sd] = 68.2 [13.3] versus 51.6 [13.9], respectively, adjusted p = 0.05), higher total vegetable scores (mean [sd] = 3.6 [1.4] versus 2.3 [1.6], respectively, adjusted p < .01), higher dairy scores (mean [sd] = 5.6 [3.0] versus 5.0 [3.3], p = .05) and lower proportion of grocery dollars spent on frozen desserts (1% [.02] versus 3% [.07], respectively, p = .02).
Conclusions
Lower income households purchase less healthful foods compared with higher income households. Food purchasing patterns may mediate income differences in dietary intake quality.
( https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12889-019-6546-2)
In the UK, 1 in 3 children are now overweight or obese when they leave school with children from poor areas twice as likely to be obese. The prevalence of so-called “food swamps”, particularly in deprived areas, is making it increasingly difficult for children to access healthy food.
( https://www.unicef.org.uk/press-releases/poor-diets-damaging-childrens-health-warns-unicef/)
Lower income households purchase less healthful foods compared with higher income households.
Because low-income people are both lazy and thick. The two things are not exclusive. Look at me, I am resourceful and active and bright. Click like and subscribe to make me popular, or be a hater and make me popular. It all works.
Or are you admitting being the troll in this one
It is worse than being a troll, he actually believes it.
You don’t think anthea Turner is the epitome of pampered middle class? Or are you admitting being the troll in this one
I'll admit to thinking that was aimed at me, possibly the furthest removed from middle class pampered as it's possible to get ! lol.
It is worse than being a troll, he actually believes it.
What, that I believe people who abuse their bodies, till they are unable to function and rely on services to enable them to carry on abusing themselves, are clogging up resources needed by others more deserving ?
I might, I might not, but that's my business. I am simply stating what the cartoon implies.
Can I just add, that jumping on a wee bandwagon and calling everyone who has a differing opinion to yours a troll smacks of lack of brains to me.
I don't agree, you must be a troll haha lets gang up hehe ! Child like really.
Kerning!!!
Made me laugh! I wouldn’t burn her though, even if she was oiled up.
Brads, I’ve heard your “differing opinion” aimed at mountain bikers many times before… “why should A&E/surgery be filled with these people who choose dangerous activities, increasing waiting times for those more deserving who have suffered injury thanks to less avoidable risks (driving/football/DIY/horseriding)?”
Being fit, active and trim doesn’t really protect you from Covid19… it may be a “risk factor”, but you don’t need to have that risk factor to contract or spread the virus, or to be hit hard by the disease it can cause. Mask wearing on the other hand can help protect you, and more importantly, others.
What, that I believe people who abuse their bodies, till they are unable to function and rely on services to enable them to carry on abusing themselves, are clogging up resources needed by others more deserving ?
Ah, yes - I must remember, the Covid dead have brought it all on themselves for being fat biffers. Poor healthy people - what a burden, having to share oxygen with such lowlives. Should we organise a cull, do you think?
Kilo and your point is?
Obviously there's a correlation, but thats along way from causation. Are the only cheap food stuffs bad for you, can low income people only afford unhealthy choices? Are unhealthy processed meal options and takeaways cheaper than raw ingredients, I dont think so.
Pretty simple point I thought, you stated in response to my comments about food poverty that “ Doesn’t really matter what your income level is, ” and i provided some evidence that indicated that it did matter what your income level is.
Ok, my point was income level may be an indicator of poor lifestyle choices but its not limited to people on a low income or that a low income immediately means you will have a poor diet and health.
What you posted shows a correlation with poor lifestyle/health but that's all.
Ah, the soft bigotry of low expectations...
brads loves trolling.
Being overweight is now a disease, like alcoholism. As I'm not addicted to either alcohol or food I can only empathise with both.
Anthea is indeed lovely looking and fit not to mention worth a few quid (by all accounts). But with that it comes an elitist viewpoint on everyone else (imo) and a lack of empathy.
Health has been directly associated with wealth.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/31/scotlands-poorest-and-richest-areas-revealed/
As has lots of other issues associated with poverty including, crime, lack of education, shorter life expectancy, health etc.
Being overweight is now a disease
It's really not.
brads loves trolling
Yawn, see my earlier post regards brains.
See if you can use yours to express an opinion on the subject matter.
Ah, yes – I must remember, the Covid dead have brought it all on themselves for being fat biffers. Poor healthy people – what a burden, having to share oxygen with such lowlives. Should we organise a cull, do you think?
Are you just making stuff up to suit ? What have the "covid dead" got to do with it ?
It’s really not.
Which shows that you have no understanding of others situations at all (am I am guessing don't care), as I said earlier.
Are you just making stuff up to suit ? What have the “covid dead” got to do with it ?
Right - I was labouring under the misapprehension that you were aware of what this thread was discussing, apologies for not realising you were just posting random contrary nonsense without context.
No, I am aware what the discussion is about, but it's not about all the "covid dead" being at fault.
Or do you just see what you want to see ?
@Kerley You forgot to add, "In my opinion" saying as you know nothing about me at all.
No, I am aware what the discussion is about, but it’s not about all the “covid dead” being at fault.
Someone posted this:
Reads to me like she’s simply saying that people who wilfully make themselves ill are costing the lives of people who are ill ,through no fault of their own, being forced down waiting lists while they get seen to.
Much discussion occurred about what that person might mean.
The original Anthea Turner content was very much about Covid, unless the face mask was just coincidental.
No, I am aware what the discussion is about, but it’s not about all the “covid dead” being at fault.
Is it not? I'm happy to see your reinterpretation of...
Sadly those of us who have genuinely tried to protect the NHS by looking after our bodies are paying the terrible price for those who have chosen lazy lifestyle choices
... as a non-victim blaming statement about the Covid dead.
Or do you just see what you want to see ?
Oh, do **** off. Discuss or don't discuss, life's too short.
I can't believe it! Someone using a Twitter account to spout their stupid views! Whatever next?
I don't understand, you don't need to wear a mask outside
I don't understand what she is saying really ...
Anyway I don't see any problem at all if that's how people want to live their lives.
Yawn, see my earlier post regards brains.
Yawn. Just another typical 'straight-talking bloke who the PC brigade want to silence'.
'A bit of slipper never did me any harm as a kid'.
'Half the supposed bullying that goes on today in schools is nothing, you should have seen it in my day'.
'University of life, school of hard knocks'.
Etc.
Etc.
Yawn, yawn, yawn.
You forgot to add, “In my opinion” saying as you know nothing about me at all.
I know more about you than your realise based on what you post. Unless of course you don't really mean what you post and you are maybe just writing it for a reaction?
@Dannyh
WTF are you on about ? You're up there with Kerley in the ASSumption brigade.
But then STW is full of that. It's quite an unpleasant place at times with the dogmatic put down of anyone who dares to have a differing opinion.
Champagne socialism tries fascism lol.
You’re up there with Kerley in the ASSumption brigade.
Maybe. But I reckon my assumptions are pretty close to the mark.
But then STW is full of that. It’s quite an unpleasant place at times with the dogmatic put down of anyone who dares to have a differing opinion.
Oh, you can have (and are welcome to) a differing opinion - where it breaks down is where you're asked to justify it and it turns out - surprise! - that you can't. I can understand that it might feel less pleasant then, but the reaction you get will be in direct relationship to how you make your argument. What you reap...
Yup It' just a pity that no one read enough to see I never expressed much off an opinion other that what I thought was being said by Turner.
Still piled in though lol.
I once said I had high hopes for Starmer and yet was still cancelled as some child eating tory.
Yup It’ just a pity that no one read enough to see I never expressed much off an opinion other that what I thought was being said by Turner.
You also said you would have made Alexander Boris De Pfeffel Johnson (man of the people) 'a cuppa' on his visit to Scotland (which was utterly unnecessary and sent totally the wrong message in a pandemic). You said this to get a reaction.
yet was still cancelled
Nice use of current alt-right faux victimhood terminology. You could have used 'jumped on' or 'denounced' or 'slagged off' or whatever, but you still like to drop in the little nudge-nudge, wink-wink inferences.
Still yawning here.
yet was still cancelled
The only way you can be cancelled on STW is for one of the Mod's to ban you.
cancelled as some child eating tory.
Is that some kind of 180 deg retelling of Qanon conspiracy/Blood Libel? 😳
Is that some kind of 180 deg retelling of Qanon conspiracy/Blood Libel?
No, it's meant to be a bit 'edgy'.
I swear some people hang out on forums with a centrist or liberal tendency in the hope of being 'talent-spotted' by the alt right.
visit to Scotland (which was utterly unnecessary and sent totally the wrong message in a pandemic). You said this to get a reaction.
He was doing his job. Maybe he should have sprayed a frame while he was here to gain STW approval.
Lower income households purchase less healthful foods compared with higher income households.
'twas always so. Read "road to Wigan Pier"
“Would it not be better if they spent more money on wholesome things like oranges and wholemeal bread or if they even, like the writer of the letter to the New Statesman, saved on fuel and ate their carrots raw? Yes, it would, but the point is that no ordinary human being is ever going to do such a thing. The ordinary human being would sooner starve than live on brown bread and raw carrots. And the peculiar evil is this, that the less money you have, the less inclined you feel to spend it on wholesome food. A millionaire may enjoy breakfasting off orange juice and Ryvita biscuits; an unemployed man doesn't. Here the tendency of which I spoke at the end of the last chapter comes into play. When you are unemployed, which is to say when you are underfed, harassed, bored, and miserable, you don't want to eat dull wholesome food. You want something a little bit 'tasty'. There is always some cheaply pleasant thing to tempt you.”
Johnson was not "doing his job" on his visit to Scotland. He was making propaganda and it was a totally unneeded journey not defensible at all.
Scottish ministers have not done what he did in Scotland