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How stupid do you think we are you stupid arrogant fool?
Jesus wept, is anyone in the entire country stupid enough to fall for this pathetic publicity stunt?
its a good one isnt it.
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...over use of stupid there, and wrong forum, but come on...
I would not give him good odds of persuading dave or the rest of his party that corporate greed for those top is disatesful but at least he may be trying - Oh hold on its cleggs it FFS what was i thinking off considering what his pledge is worth this is not going to happen is it 😥
I posted that at the same time as Kimbers did his pick so I hereby claim JINKS
Notice that it's him that comes out with all this nonsense and not DC Thatcher Jr III.
Yup, he's really getting a great deal out of that relationship, not DC going home with a sore bum...
Conservative treatment dude. Soon it'll be all the NHS can provide.... 😉
I heard this policy and wondered how long till we end up like ye olde russias ideals
Give the guy a break ffs. The polls for over a year have been putting the LibDems on half of the support which they had at the general election - he [i]has[/i] to do something.
I say go for it Nick ...... I'm sure everyone will forget your broken promises/policies/pledges and the fact that you're a Tory in disguise.
I reckon well delivered outrage, without actually doing anything tangible, is an excellent game plan. Specially as LibDem supporters have been proved to be potentially very gullible.
I [i]live[/i] in his constituancy.
Labour are really weak here so it's either voting for him, or the conservatives. What a bloody choice. 🙁
Nick is a dick.
Are you really surprised?
ernie_lynch - MemberGive the guy a break ffs. The polls for over a year have been putting the LibDems on half of the support which they had at the general election - he has to do something.
TBH it'll take ritual disembowelment to make people forgive. I think he'll be remembered as the worst lib dem leader, and I wouldn't rule out the possibility he's one of the last 🙁
I think he'll be remembered as the worst lib dem leader
It's fairly safe to say that out of Lib Dem leaders who've held government office, Nick is by far the worst...
He has killed the party - no chance of any significant representation for a generation again
Lied incessantly to gain power. Hopefully in the next election he, and that hideous ginger Gollum creature, will be consigned to obscurity. Doubt it though.
What a disappointment Clegg has turned out to be eh? I remember watching him on the first if the televised debates and thinking that he might just be the man to split the Tory/Labour stranglehold. Fast forward to now and look what's happened, as TJ says, the lib dems are finished as a political force for the forseeable future and the Tory/Labour stranglehold is bigger and stronger than ever.
He's an idiot. End of.
What do you expect from a Godless philanderer?
Swears an oath to God to be an MP then denies the existence of God, a little clue there don't you think?
Worse thing that happened to the lib deems, forced me to vote tory and I haven't stopped washing since.
Disgusting man.
Godless? my opinion of him just improved...
Hopefully in the next election he, and that hideous ginger Gollum creature, will be consigned to obscurity. Doubt it though.
I assume "that hideous ginger Gollum creature" is Danny Alexander ?
Personally I think it's highly probable that he will be consigned to obscurity. The muppet is so clearly a Tory - the rush with which he embraced David Cameron's agenda, and the enthusiasm he's shown in implementing it, is quite frankly embarrassing.
Of course he's not silly enough to think that anyone standing as a Tory in Scotland stands much of a chance, so very wisely he didn't do that, and stood as a LibDem instead.
But I'm not entirely convinced that the people of Inverness will be fooled a second time. The evidence that he's clearly nothing more than a Tory by another name is now overwhelming.
He has got a large majority, but Tories aren't very popular in Inverness - the candidate of the official Tory Party only managed 13% of the vote at the last general election. A Labour or the SNP win is doable.
I reckon Danny Alexander's days are number - by however many days there are left until the next general election. Which particularly amuses me as in recent days he's been very vocal about the LibDem manifesto for the next general election, I think to myself, "you won't be implementing it mate".
Not that anyone will ever again think that a LibDem manifesto is worth the paper it's written on of course.
Still, he'll have the recompense of knowing that his 10 years in parliament will give him a pension. Boosted by the fact that for half that time, whilst he was shafting teachers, nurses, etc, for their pensions, he was a senior minister. Nice work if you can get it.
On the minus side, there's a risk that he might need to get a proper job - he's never had one of those.
Tory's not stupid are they. Get the idiots to be the whipping boys and deliver all the bad news, make flaccid promises etc. Then step away from the mess and trundle through the pernicious obnoxious changes while everyone is astounded by the lib-dems stupidity.
Ernie - do you reakon europe could split the coalition? I do so hope so. I will be very hard for Cameron to take a position on any euro bailout deal that will appease both the tory Eurosceptics and the Lib Dem pro EU side. Or will the lidb dems swallow anything to stay in power?
What do you expect from a Godless philanderer?Swears an oath to God to be an MP then denies the existence of God
I would say you have quite enough problems of your own to be getting on with if this is your biggest concern. How about the fact that it's quite nice to have someone in government who doesn't believe the Tooth Fairy catapulted the world into existence and won't give pointless time and attention to the unelected spongers in the church.
My hope, my over-riding hope, is that this generation of professional politicians, the Camerons, the Cleggs, the Millibands will mess up so badly that they will never be trusted again, and we can move to a system where politics is something you do because you want to make things better, rather than because it's a way to make cash.
My hope, my over-riding hope, is that this generation of professional politicians, the Camerons, the Cleggs, the Millibands will mess up so badly that they will never be trusted again, and we can move to a system where politics is something you do because you want to make things better, rather than because it's a way to make cash.
not a hope in hell, it is an easy route into a directorship, lots of money and it is always their fault
and if your cameron, how about an earldom?
......and won't give pointless time and attention to the unelected spongers in the church.
Nick Clegg's wife is a Catholic. His children are being brought up as Catholics. I doubt whether he is particularly hostile to "unelected spongers in the church".
Ernie - do you reakon europe could split the coalition?
No idea. I'm surprised the Great Tory-LibDem Love-in has gone this far. I did expect greater resistance from within the party. Some liberal members have spent the last 20 or 30 years fighting the conservatives ffs. How they have allowed some geezer, who was only an MP for a couple of years before becoming their leader, to drive them into bed with the Tories, and screw up their chances for the future, is beyond me.
That's exactly him ernie and I hope you are right. Not a pleasant site seeing him, in the early days of the coalition govt, heartily congratulating Geogre after his speech where he laid out how he was going to **** over any who wasn't a Tory.
we can move to a system where politics is something you do because you want to make things better, rather than because it's a way to make cash.
Will the electorate ever ignore what the newspapers owners are telling them, and support politicians who have entered politics to make a difference ?
The electorate loved Tony Blair - because they were told to. Never has there ever been a more self-serving British Prime Minister.
One can dream ernie, one can only dream.
An interesting side effect of the stupidity currently taking the place of actual politics is the re-politicisation of a generation of people. Given the poor turn outs, the lack of interest in politics, the way that young people no longer saw that politics was important, the current shower of inadequates have at least forced politics back onto everyones agenda.
You'll like this one Ernie:
Coincidence, kismet or subtle ironic political statement?
Parked directly outside the front Mr & Mrs Blair's pricey Pied à Terre in a select west London square as I cycled past this morning, was a Ferrari 458 with the number plate "1RA0"
A gift of thanks perhaps?
Senior Conservatives are said to be sceptical about the plans and say no government work is under way on implementing them.
From the Telegraph.
Senior Conservatives are said to be sceptical about the plans and say no government work is under way on implementing them.
[i]Shhhhh ![/i]........don't steal the thunder from Clegg's well rehearsed outrage.
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Sorry Stoner, I always need to have 'personal' number plates and red-top pun headlines explained to me. I don't know what "1RA0" means 😐
"1RA0", from 30yrds looks like IRAQ
Ah, right. Things like that always go right over my head 😀
.......I tend to take things literally, and lack poetic license.
"1RA0", from 30yrds looks like IRAQ
anyone know if 1 RA exists? just thought it might be nice to park up near thatchers funeral?
Flaperon - Member
What do you expect from a Godless philanderer?
Swears an oath to God to be an MP then denies the existence of GodI would say you have quite enough problems of your own to be getting on with if this is your biggest concern. How about the fact that it's quite nice to have someone in government who doesn't believe the Tooth Fairy catapulted the world into existence and won't give pointless time and attention to the unelected spongers in the church.
Clearly you missed the thread in which I proved the existence of a supreme being/force that for the sake of convenience we should continue to call God, if only to call lying scumbag politicians to account in the final reckoning.
Crikey, another Unread Ernie Essay, religion/atheism and Thatcher all in one page? STW in a nutshell these days.
Ernie - I think you are very harsh on Clegg, he was dealt a truly impossible hand by the electorate. There was no credible alternative to a Conservative led government, the numbers just did not work, if he had allowed them to govern on a finance and supply basis, and flinched from the responsibility of government - where would that have left the Lib Dems? He has been left in the least worst position but the electorate would have hit them one way or another. Having said that, offering a full colalition was a strategy master-stroke by the tories.
...and the usual mildly critical and essentially useless comment about the thread rather than about the subject matter of the thread from his lordship.
All would appear to be as usual in STW land.
Mefty - he had another option. Negotiate a queens speech he could / would support and allow Cameron top form a minority government with Cameron having to gain support for bills not in the queens speech on the merit of each bill.
He would have had a far more effective veto power and could critise policiues not in th queens speech directly, he would not have had the lib dems loose support because of the support for the tories in the same way - but no ministerial cars.
It would have beena far better and more honest option. He was either incredibly neive or he sold his party for a ministerial car or two
That is what is meant by finance and supply, he would have flinched from power, and the LibDems would have been sitting ducks, what is the point of the party which isn't prepared to govern? He was stuffed whichever way.
He certainly is now; he has no power or influence other than that faintly reflected from Cameron, and is despised by his own party as well as everyone else. He has convincingly destroyed any small credibility the Lib-Dems ever had and has consigned them to history.
But to be honest that is what happens to them when they get close to power, they got clobbered by the Lib Lab Pact in the 70s as well, their vote went down from 18% to 13%.
He would have been much better off allowing Cameron to run a minority government. The lib dems would not have been damaged nearly so badly IMO. It could easily have been pitched as a principled stance not flinching from power

