[Closed] New Top Gear just started,

Which is why we like it.
Who wouldn't want to trade places for a bit?

Yes I know.
That's why I don't like it.

How about if we had a decent, adult motoring show as well?

I guess if there was a need for one then someone would have done one but nope there's Top Gear and wanna be Top Gear show Fifth Gear.

Because it's not been tried?
There are lots of things that should be provided by our state broadcaster that aren't.

You don't think the demand is there?
Car magazine is a highly respected and hugely successful.
It manages to be funny, informative, insightful and intelligent.

Surely TG would be better suited to a commercial channel?
Popularity is no signifier of worth.

Yes I know.
That's why I don't like it.

Yet you still insist on watching it.

Surely TG would be better suited to a commercial channel?

Nope, because then it wouldn't bring in any money for the beeb, enabling our state broadcaster (your words) to do other things as well.

I've covered both those points above.

Live executions would bring in lots of cash for the BBC.
As would a BBC porn channel.
Happy with those?

Yep.

I don't have to watch them, but others can if they wish. Especially if the bbc makes cash hand over fist showing it.

Fair enough. 😀

I don't believe money should be the only driver behind programming.

Our views obviously differ quite considerably.

I guess it comes down to whether you'd want to spend time in the company of these sort of blokes.
Personally, if I heard someone talking the way they do in the pub, at work, wherever, I'd avoid them like the plague.

Three Colin Hunts.

Or something that rhymes with that at least.

No sunglasses or goggles on that quadbike/jet-ski... ouch

Top Gear tried to be a serious motoring show once.

Got axed.

Clarkson fought to bring it back as the new format that has morphed into this, purely due to it being popular with viewers.

What would you prefer? Antiques Roadshow?

No-ones said what a 'serious' motoring show will be about.
1 hour review of a Ford Focus? Car vs bike debate?

The BBC are between a rock and a hard place. Too popular and it should be on a commercial channel, no viewers, and it's too elite.

Exactly Milky.

Then along come fith gear which tried to be a serious show and struggled so became faux Top Gear but fails there too now it just doesn't know what it is.

LOL at all the haters.

Simple figures, it has an audience of 5 million - pretty much the most watched programme at that slot on a sunday AND makes the beeb a boat load of money. It is a successful show, whether you like it or not!

RS, the BBC needs to make money as well as do good stuff. It doesn't necessarily need to do both with the same programme though.

Its an entertainment show first and foremost.
Different sorts of things entertain different sorts of people.
If Top Gear as a source of entertainment doesn't entertain you, then watch something else.
Its pretty simple really.
Or you could just go on and on and on and on about how you dont like it. Or are you hoping if you complain long and hard enough on a [u]bike forum[/u] thread about it that the BBC will notice it and go "fair enough, we'll axe it immediately"?

Lets be honest here. Those slagging off Top Gear are just mourning the loss of the days when Sunday evening was the very pinnacle of weekly televisual entertainment. I too, long for those halcyon days. Where you could pour yourself a sweet sherry, maybe get yourself a nice piece of cake, and settle back on the sofa for…..

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It's light hearted Sunday entertainment with cars and blokes with jobs that, let's face it, we'd all kill to have.

I'd rather watch this to take my mind off the drudgery of work for a bit than some twonk going on about the size of a Renault Clio's wing mirror for 20 minutes.

Don't like it? Couldn't give a shit

no other programme polarizes opinion about whether it is ok to criticise a tele programme on a bicycle forum or not.
maybe there should be two threads each week - one for the Clarkson fanbois and one for adults.

LOL at all the haters.

Thing is though, I don't think that people are saying they hate it in a (to quote Clarkson) beardy-sandal way, I reckon the "haters" just want it to be better.

I'd like to watch a program about cars presented by people who are funny, and obviously having a laugh. I don't want to watch reviews about fuel efficiency and that crap, I want bonkers cars going sideways.

The problem with TG now though is that it's just not that funny any more, and seems to have run out of ideas.

I want bonkers cars going sideways.

To me that gets old very quickly.

The best TG stuff (and there have been some good ones) are the proper adventures they go on, and some of the challenges. Possibly because they aren't in the same room and hence are less ****ty.

and seems to have run out of ideas.

It generates a lot of hate on here because the aforementioned popularity of the show means that clarksons public attacks on cyclists makes the roads less safe for all us lycra louts

I like it. I think it could be better but as said above faced with top gear or any if the other shite that's on a Sunday evening top gear wins everyday of the week. Yes it's a bit tired now but every now and again they throw up something good. I just filter out the crap. I do not and never have taken anything they have ever said seriously. But then I don't take dad's army as a serious representation of the home guard during the Second World War.

This weeks episode was a lot better than last weeks, which was complete dirge.

If you want something a bit more in-depth without going full pub bore, Chris Harris on the Drive channel on YouTube is worth a watch.

It was way better last night, seeing the P1 on the edge of traction was great. Nae idea who that "star" was though.

However I reserve my right to watch it, hate it, and moan on here about it.

If you don't like that, don't read my posts, OK?

Who the hell do you think you are? Coming on here with your sensible comments. Your type are not welcome. Bugger off. 🙂

I thought it was alright.

I know, that opinion wouldn't fit with it's trolling script aimed to polarize.

Thought Lotus would have got a mention when they were testing that toy car and banging on about light weight, small-engined models like they'd just discovered the wheel.

Who would still watch it if it wasn't on on a Sunday night?

Did someone say Heartbeat's coming back on? miiiiiiiiiiiiiint!

Nae idea who that "star" was though.

It's Tom Hiddleston, he plays Loki in the Thor/Avenger films.

Really nice guy apparently.

The best TG stuff (and there have been some good ones) are the proper adventures they go on

It's Tom Hiddleston, he plays Loki in the Thor/Avenger films.

Really nice guy apparently.

I did have a little chuckle at the reference to Slough Comp. 😀

Why?

I read a Sunday Paper yesterday and there was an article in it by Clarkson who openly stated he rode his bike around Town rather than take a Dacia that was on test...
Then there was a pic of Clarkson with HiVis & 4 cameras on his body.. He was also wearing a pair of Oakleys..
Yo! Jezza.

milky1980 - Member

Top Gear tried to be a serious motoring show once.

Got axed.

Clarkson fought to bring it back as the new format that has morphed into this, purely due to it being popular with viewers.

There's a balance to be struck.
I don't want to bring back William Woollard telling us how many Werther's you can fit into a Marina glovebox.

Neither do I want a programme which revels in it's ignorance, promotes hatred of other road users and celebrates only the crassest aspects of it's chosen subject.

What would you prefer? Antiques Roadshow?

binners - Member

Lets be honest here. Those slagging off Top Gear are just mourning the loss of the days when Sunday evening was the very pinnacle of weekly televisual entertainment. I too, long for those halcyon days.

Boba Fatt - Member
Don't like it? Couldn't give a shit

Gilbertodepiento-
Merely a shibboleth amongst some ex-public-school people when referring to Eton College. Sometimes "Slough Grammar".

bikebouy - Member

I read a Sunday Paper yesterday and there was an article in it by Clarkson who openly stated he rode his bike around Town rather than take a Dacia that was on test...

colonel wax - Member
I'd like to watch a program about cars presented by people who are funny

Funnily enough, so would I.

I want a better motoring show.

So you keep saying, without giving details of how you fill 6x1 hours with stuff millions will watch.

6x59 minutes of JC being publically flogged, then 6x1 minutes of his not-so-smug-anymore face.

There are so many topics that could be included, it would be a pointless list.

Do you ever read intelligent and thought provoking motoring journalism?
You know, the kind of stuff that used to be written by Laughing Len Setright, Russell Bulgin, Phil Llewellyn, even May at the Telegraph.
Like that, but on television.

So you keep saying, without giving details of how you fill 6x1 hours with stuff millions will watch.

And keep them watching more importantly. You could easily fill the time.

With Quentin talking about the latest Ford Mundano eco diesel.

If only it'd been tried before.

There are so many topics that could be included, it would be a pointless list.

Nice shimmy.

Actually, on the topic of real world car reviews.

Why would you bother with a motoring show?

Youve got either a limited 60 or 30 minute show.

Or you can source info from the internet with every single car available reviewed in extreme detail by multiple reviewers. In both text and video formats, with stacks of images thrown in.

piemonster - Member

With Quentin talking about the latest Ford Mundano eco diesel.
If only it'd been tried before.

Do you read any other posts other than the ones you agree with?

Do you read any other posts other than the ones you agree with?

Yeh, but most of yours come across as whiny so they havent sunk in.

Do you ever read intelligent and thought provoking motoring journalism?
You know, the kind of stuff that used to be written by Laughing Len Setright, Russell Bulgin, Phil Llewellyn, even May at the Telegraph.

Yes, but I READ them.
I don't watch TV for things I can READ.