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I used to love TG but going off it more and more.

YouTube now covers off any car review you could want, 6 months before TG can broadcast it. So therefore, reviews on TG are pointless (even super cars)

Which leaves doing something different and outside the budget of what can be seen on YouTube. That means road trips and prank stuff.

Unfortunately, I think the script writers have run out of ideas on both of the above so its just all a bit predictable.

Ps shouldn't this thread be closed as there have been previous TG threads?


 
Posted : 31/10/2022 2:12 pm
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Lol. There’s about 400+ politics/royal threads that are all basically the same thread.


 
Posted : 31/10/2022 8:46 pm
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Prequel to Last Of The Summer Wine, substitute three old farts/wheelbarrow/random pointless stuff for..............
ad nauseam


 
Posted : 31/10/2022 9:20 pm
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Watched it this evening and was a little bit disappointed. Really does feel like they waste a lot of the opportunities the places the go to offer them in their chase for cheap laughs. Still enjoy Harris' solo bits though so it'll do as Sunday filler TV for a few weeks.

Unfortunately, I think the script writers have run out of ideas on both of the above so its just all a bit predictable.

It's a different team now from when CHM were there, they took them all with them to do the Grand Tour. The new team aren't anywhere near as good as the old lot.


 
Posted : 31/10/2022 10:07 pm
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Three of the biggest ****s to ever be given air time.

Edit - I’m thinking of the ones who are now on Amazon! Clarkson, the one with the hair and the hyperactive dwarf.


 
Posted : 31/10/2022 10:08 pm
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so its just all a bit predictable.

A bit like Top Gear threads on STW? 😉


 
Posted : 31/10/2022 10:13 pm
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I emplore you not to watch Question of Sport. McGuiness. Thats all you need to know, do yourselves a favour and remember it as it was.


 
Posted : 31/10/2022 10:51 pm
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Paddy and Freddie are unwatchable. It's just witless waffling. They're like any couple of lairy muppets from any pub in the country.

Fine for Saturday night on itv or daytime adverts for payday loans and online bingo but it's not for me.


 
Posted : 31/10/2022 11:01 pm
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Given the amount of use the fast forward button got, it would seem I quite liked that episode, so it's a thumbs up from me.


 
Posted : 02/11/2022 10:25 am
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That Pagani monstrosity has to be one of the most pointless and vulgar vehicles I've ever had the misfortune to behold. Suits McGuiness perfectly.


 
Posted : 07/11/2022 1:09 am
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Looks like it could damn good fun to drive though.


 
Posted : 07/11/2022 1:43 am
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First time I've liked the idea of a Porsche over a Ferrari.

And although it was wrapped up in another silly stunt, those microcars looked interesting for urban use.

So, cars reviewed ranged from £3 million down to £11k, some were electric/hybrid, but haters gonna hate.


 
Posted : 07/11/2022 7:47 am
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Decent enough episode, the city cars thing was a bit silly but raised some decent points-the Citroens width for example.

The 296 is the first propery nice looking Ferrari is a long while IMO, better without the weird stripe though and the GT4 would still be my choice.

Loved the Citroen Ami for a while, Carver looked a laugh though!


 
Posted : 07/11/2022 8:22 am
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The Pagani was horrible. An absolute dinosaur.

Would love a Caver though as a commuter.


 
Posted : 07/11/2022 8:22 am
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Quite enjoyed the German/Austrian piece but the rest was a bit Meh.

Autobahn: there is a bit on my commute to work but its often got heavy traffic. It's straight after the Swiss border so often a bit of a drag strip. Old Autobahn, and there is still a lot, is properly intense. Two lanes, trucks, caravans and stuff then in the other it's a free for all. Then there is the Elephant Races when a truck takes 10k to overtake another truck....


 
Posted : 07/11/2022 9:27 am
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The issue with buying a Cayman is, no matter how good it is in absolute terms there is always the comment “Ah, the 911’s little brother”.


 
Posted : 07/11/2022 9:53 am
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I've loved Carvers for years - I'd love to have a go in/on one.


 
Posted : 07/11/2022 10:05 am
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The issue with buying a Cayman is, no matter how good it is in absolute terms there is always the comment “Ah, the 911’s little brother”.

I'll bear that in mind next time I'm contemplating buying one 🙂


 
Posted : 07/11/2022 10:20 am
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I'm a bit Meh🤷‍♂️ when it comes to super/HyperCars but that Ferrari was beautiful! Kinda reminds me of a Muira in its flowyness/curves. I wonder how much trade in they'd give me for my 18year old Berlingo?


 
Posted : 07/11/2022 10:30 am
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The issue with buying a Cayman is, no matter how good it is in absolute terms there is always the comment “Ah, the 911’s little brother”.

TBH you’ll always get that, there’s people who drive cars for the driving experience and them who just buy the labels.

The boxster/cayman configuration was always nicer than heavy ass.


 
Posted : 07/11/2022 10:30 am
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The 296 is the first propery nice looking Ferrari is a long while IMO, better without the weird stripe though

100% - I thought exactly the same myself.


 
Posted : 07/11/2022 10:41 am
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I thought the Ferrari had a whiff of kit car about it... 2 episodes in ans so much so dull. I don't mind Flintoff, like Harris and can't abide Peter Kay's chum.

It's background noise in our house not must watch TV.


 
Posted : 07/11/2022 11:24 am
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I fast forwarded the entire thing apart from the bit about the small electric cars.

Not sure if I'm just getting old, or just bored of watching pointless super cars.


 
Posted : 07/11/2022 11:28 am
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I think that the World has moved on. Watching someone drive about in a £3,200,000 waste of resources whilst I’m there in fleece lined trousers because I don’t want to put the heating on was so remote that I couldn’t care less. Especially when the Porsche was, in my opinion, better.


 
Posted : 07/11/2022 11:46 am
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The 296 is very pretty. Nice simple styling. In a single colour it looks stunning.


 
Posted : 07/11/2022 11:47 am
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looks a bit like a Muira (which is not a bad thing)


 
Posted : 07/11/2022 11:50 am
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Personally, I think the Ferrari looks like a squashed Corvette. Something about the front lights is just wrong but I wouldn't mind a go in one.

Paganni - a vulgar trinket. Harris' comment that he was too scared to drift it said it all.

Cayman just shows that there's a diminishing return on "investment" in cars.

The electric feature was actually really interesting, and the Carver was an absolute revelation. I wanted one back in the day when they were BMW powered with a funky parralever front-end but this cut price version looks like a fabulous city car. They didn't make much of the great design features of the Ami but it did show up its Achilles heel on the width and the ease with which it just became traffic like anything else.

Actually a great episode I thought.


 
Posted : 07/11/2022 1:57 pm
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Not sure if I’m just getting old, or just bored of watching pointless super cars.

For me, it's just that Top Gear doesn't do its job that well any longer. 3 great cars, great scenery, great production values and what do we get - a bit of scripted banter, too much time messing around on a small track that looked like a dual carriageway, and some standard wheel spinning and smoking. I think it's interesting that Whitehouse and Mortimer's programme, for example, can make a fishing lake anywhere in the UK look beautiful, but Top Gear struggle to make the Alps look interesting. And they have no real enthusiasm for the cars they are driving. Compare what they do to this:

(Henry Catchpole would seem to be a MTBer judging by his bookshelf. He used to write for Cyclist mag iirc.)


 
Posted : 07/11/2022 1:59 pm
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Watching someone drive about in a £3,200,000 waste of resources whilst I’m there in fleece-lined trousers because I don’t want to put the heating on was so remote that I couldn’t care less.

Absolutely this.


 
Posted : 07/11/2022 2:00 pm
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Thanks @IdleJon that looks great - will watch later


 
Posted : 07/11/2022 2:06 pm
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Last weeks feature on the rimac made the pagani piece obsolete. Suits Paddy McG though. Vulgar.

This episode wasnt interesting. too formulaic - my car is the best etc etc, take it round a small track etc etc, some mountain pass with hairpins etc


 
Posted : 07/11/2022 3:56 pm
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Another good episode, the city cars in Paris was interesting and that Porsche was stunning and made the Pagani and Ferrari look pointless


 
Posted : 07/11/2022 6:15 pm
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Thought last night was a great episode.

The capabilities of that Range Rover are extraordinary.


 
Posted : 14/11/2022 3:54 pm
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Yes, another good one. Very few people need a luxury barge with the capabilities of that Range Rover, but bloody hell it was impressive.

Interesting to see all the problems with the F1 road car as well


 
Posted : 14/11/2022 3:57 pm
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Thought it strange they didn't mention the atrocious LR unreliability though.


 
Posted : 14/11/2022 4:25 pm
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And they have no real enthusiasm for the cars they are driving.

Must be a parallel stub version of TG, ‘cos when they like a car, they say so, and if they’re disappointed, they say so.

Yes, another good one. Very few people need a luxury barge with the capabilities of that Range Rover, but bloody hell it was impressive.

Interesting to see all the problems with the F1 road car as well.

Couldn’t agree more. The Merc was extraordinary, but honestly a bit embarrassing to watch. All the issues seemed to be with electronics and control systems, which also show up on their road cars - being bricked in park mode after a flat battery, requiring the car to be literally dragged onto a low-loader, or all the whizzy flat-screen displays going black while the car’s actually being driven? Not a good look.
The RR, however, had me going “what, they’re never going to take it down… **** me they are!”

At least they put serious off-road rubber on it; plenty of times in the past where they’ve been chucking some honking great SUV across muddy fields or whatever, it’s been wearing fat low-profile road tyres, which is just daft.

I’d definitely NOT want a light coloured interior, though. I have, in the past, driven a top-end RR Sport, and I have to admit, it showed a possible lifestyle to which I could get very much accustomed to!


 
Posted : 14/11/2022 4:39 pm
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I’d definitely NOT want a light coloured interior, though. I have, in the past, driven a top-end RR Sport, and I have to admit, it showed a possible lifestyle to which I could get very much accustomed to!

I have to admit, as much as I* hate cars in general, Range Rovers are just very nice places to be. Although if I had £100k+ to spend on getting around surely you would have to be driving one hell of a lot to run up that sort of money on taxis and 1st class trains.

*Hypocritically owning an old MG


 
Posted : 14/11/2022 7:41 pm
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Tried watching again this weekend. Can’t remember much, my mind wondered off, apart from the AMG struggling. Formula one cars and road cars shouldn’t be mashed together…? Who’d have thunk it.


 
Posted : 14/11/2022 7:44 pm
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Great episode. RR always get the luxury and proper off road spot on.


 
Posted : 14/11/2022 9:57 pm
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I really enjoyed the episode but I don't agree with any of the previous posts about the capabilities of the Range Rover - they have been able to do that (and plenty more besides) for years and years, just like Toyota Land Cruisers, Lada Rivas, Suzuki Jimnys, Subaru Foresters or any other half-decent off-roader. And it is a terrible shame that 99.9% of the cars built will never be required to be put into descent, rock crawl or wading mode – all that money and it seems like a pointless gimmick. But I would love to have a drive in one though.


 
Posted : 15/11/2022 10:52 am
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enjoyed it ! Wonder how much the bill was to put the RR back to selling condition - between the front bumper damage and no doubt some dings underneath etc I imagine it would be a fair amount !


 
Posted : 15/11/2022 10:57 am
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^^^ I assume it is one they use for press (ie, a quick tidy up of any damage, give it a valet and it's good to go for the next testers).


 
Posted : 15/11/2022 11:09 am
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At least they put serious off-road rubber on it; plenty of times in the past where they’ve been chucking some honking great SUV across muddy fields or whatever, it’s been wearing fat low-profile road tyres, which is just daft.

I've been fortunate enough to go to Land Rover Experience a quite few times and the vehicles they use there for the off-road driving experience always have standard roads tyres, the same as those on the vehicles when they come out of the factory. They explained that they want customers to know what their own, standard build vehicles are capable of.

All of their new vehicles are remarkable off road, the technology and capability is truly fantastic. I always feel quite sad though knowing that all of the that engineering will be wasted on 99% of sold vehicles.


 
Posted : 15/11/2022 11:43 am
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Loving TG, Sunday night trash TV. It is just fun, 3 blokes having a laugh razzing cars around. The RR test was just brilliant, like others here I'm sat there thinking "No Way is that going across that".
Thought the water crossing might have fried some electrics in the RR tho.


 
Posted : 15/11/2022 11:57 am
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From a less shouty era, just heard one of the original presenters, Sue Baker, has died.


 
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