The two aren’t mutually exclusive.
I didn't say they were, please try to refrain from putting your words into my mouth.
It will only make you look stupid.
The "kids identify as cats" thing is a meme that got adopted by culture warriors. It is, of course, total bullshit.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litter_boxes_in_schools_hoax
Does anyone know whether Muslims are planning to ban Christmas again this year?
No, it was the Muslims last year, this year it's us Loony Lefties' turn.
Apart from the fact that ‘they/them’ pronouns go back at least as far as Shakespeare, but it’s taken a few right-wingnuts until now to make a big deal about it, and much of this stuff is overtly considered and political posturing and in this country is mostly the Daily Heil just doing what it does best.
And what do I identify as? Like someone up there ^^, a sloth. I’m inherently lazy, and now I’m retired, I’m really starting to relax into the whole concept.
A mountain...
I seem to have strong anti-authority Anarchist tendencies.It doesn't result in an easy life.
Apart from the fact that ‘they/them’ pronouns go back at least as far as Shakespeare,
The ironic ****tery with this is, "you" is inherently plural, it's only relatively recently that it's become singular and no-one bats an eyelid about that. The singular form is is thee/thou. So if thou can cope with "you" referring to a singular then thou can do the same with "they."
It makes me wonder as a heterosexual, why people are so afraid.
Yep,it’s a weird one,all these unwritten societal rules.
I’d happily be anything other myself
same
Spent the day at the zoo. Most animals were just chilling… but this dude, Chief, was having the most fun by far. I wanna be Chief.
The ironic ****tery with this is, “you” is inherently plural, it’s only relatively recently that it’s become singular and no-one bats an eyelid about that. The singular form is is thee/thou. So if thou can cope with “you” referring to a singular then thou can do the same with “they.”
My understanding is that you can be singular or plural whereas there is a diminutive form, only used for friends or those of social equal or below. Thou is used either as a plural or to show respect to someone of higher social standing. More or less the same as the French use of tu/vous (the French words for you).
Thee/ thou does sound very old fashioned now but being gender neutral maybe it should make a comeback.
PS no intention to put thee in tha place there, just my understanding of olde language from Quakers in the family.
PPS can I be whatever animal is best at work avoidance. Occasional bicycle magazine reader?
but it’s taken a few right-wingnuts until now to make a big deal about it
If you want some-one to blame, blame the evangelical Christian right in the US, their current target de jour is obviously Trans folks, but once those folks have been threatened/terrified into silence, they will go for the gay folk. You may have thought that battle had been won, but you'd be wrong.
Thou is used either as a plural or to show respect to someone of higher social standing.
It fell out of use because of the ambiguity of politeness it causes within the upper classes, (who are you addressing? The whole or the individual?) and as in most things, Hoi Polloi just followed suit. It would be kinda cool to have Thou and Ye back in fashion though.
It would be kinda cool to have Thou and Ye back in fashion though.
Tha should get thi sen up here...
I would identify as the "Just Read the Instructions "
I’m an annoying bugger who hasn’t reached my potential, so I’d identify as the wind:
Are you me? Maybe we could swap self-identity every other day so you be the tree, I'll be the wind one day, I'll be the tree you'll be the wind the next. A different self-identity four times a week, how exiting!
I identify as a Yamaha RD350LC.
<p>I found myself in a little desk bound internal dialogue whilst writing to an intersex person about whether a singular “they” should be accompanied by an “is” or “are”. I ended up settling on “is”, which the person in question ended up telling me they liked, even though they hadn’t considered before. </p>
I think I’ll just carry on identifying as a
FAT OLD GIT
am getting used to the idea of collecting my OAP next year so it seems even more appropriate 🤣
Half the time, so 4 days a week I identify as a 'roided up bodybuilder.
The other 4 days I just laugh at them.
Procrastinator.
Tha should get thi sen up here…
I know it's a joke, but there's an interesting point to be had here. Thee/thou falling into disuse was not that long ago. That's how my grandparents spoke, "thee" and Lanky corruptions like "tha" or "ti." I still regress into it occasionally.
whether a singular “they” should be accompanied by an “is” or “are”. I ended up settling on “is”
I find that interesting too. Arguably perhaps, "they is" sounds wrong but "they are" is wrong. Maybe it sounds wrong mostly because we're just not used to it.
Mind, compare with singular "you." If you said "you is" when addressing one person you'd sound like a mockney gangsta, innit.
Seeing as Ali G self identifies as a black man, if we don't acknowledge him as such would that make us racist?
Bit whatever you do, don't call him 'cis'.
Well, no, it would make us idiots. "Self identification" doesn't mean what racists, homophobes, TERFs and general assorted other bigots would have us believe that it means.
Ali G is a fictional character, Sacha Baron Cohen routinely lampoons this sort of stuff.
A Honey Badger because look at them. Honey Badger don’t care, Honey Badger don’t give a shit.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg
I identify as a Yamaha RD350LC
I identify as your younger brother 'YPVS' 🙄
I was joking cougar, I just thought it was amusing that you had cited that character in a conversation about identity... perhaps unwittingly. But who needs wit when you've got a barrage of insults at your fingertips eh?
Of course I understand that Ali G is a fiction. Much like the concept of self identification.
Perhaps the cat in this conversation belongs to Schrodinger
I have changed my mind. Cat it is. Get up early. Faff around for a while. Eat . Have a nap. Show disdain for everything. Change my mind about what is nice to eat. Repeat .
But who needs wit when you’ve got a barrage of insults at your fingertips eh?
I was surprised. Apologies if I misunderstood.
Nuance in text is difficult, emotive subjects doubly so.
A lot of light hearted threads turn deadly serious within a few post lately. We need a good, classic ‘My neighbour’ thread to ball balance out the seriousness.
I have changed my mind. Cat it is. Get up early. Faff around for a while. Eat . Have a nap. Show disdain for everything. Change my mind about what is nice to eat. Repeat .
What you have just described is a child aged about 2.
The advantage of the child is of course that it does not deposit the occasional dead grey squirrel under the dining room table (probably).
Nuance in text is difficult, emotive subjects doubly so.
One of the the very few posters that has an actual dog in this fight managed it well enough, so what's your excuse?
Some of you should put down the internet for the day and go for a walk.
But how would anyone signal their virtue if they didn’t squawk and shout and call others bigots?
A pair of slippers.
Not the new and comfy type.
But how would anyone signal their virtue if they didn’t squawk and shout and call others bigots?
Good point, well made.
Has anyone done the "I once had a date with a lady who self-identifies a wheelie bin, but I couldn't remember if I was supposed to take her out on a Tuesday or a Wednesday" joke yet?
I identify as a Yamaha RD350LC
My brother did the same, whereas I was a Mk1 Mexico
One of the the very few posters that has an actual dog in this fight managed it well enough, so what’s your excuse?
DM me and I'll explain.
Has anyone done the “I once had a date with a lady who self-identifies a wheelie bin, but I couldn’t remember if I was supposed to take her out on a Tuesday or a Wednesday” joke yet?
No, because most of us aren't
Oh you know what, I give up, I can't be bothered. Stick with your Jim Davidson routine.
Actually, you know what, sod it if you want to play that *ing game.
My mother is dying. She's in hospital and everyone is skirting around the very ****ing obvious elephant in the room.
I was recently TUPEd against my will and the new job is... let's say generously "not what I'd hoped."
There's a whole whole bunch of other shit going on. That's just the top two. My mental health isn't just down the toilet, it's been flushed and is halfway across the North Sea. I'm hanging on by my fingernails.
So I am absolutely 100% *ing damned if I'm putting up with any racist / sexist / misogynistic / homophobic / transphobic BULLSHIT "jokes" on the one small prevailing corner of the Internet which is keeping me vaguely sane right now. If you're cracking those then **** you and the horse you rode in on, that's not acceptable. Punching down is a ****'s trick.
I'm upset. I'm angry. I'm not sleeping. I'm barely eating. I'm bursting into tears several times a day. And I know you weren't to know and I know I'm far from perfect either but perhaps consider some empathy before judging.
The joys of the Internet, you have no idea what people are going through beyond the facade they present.
