[Closed] Neighbours smoking (is there anything we can do)

Not keen on grassing people up but if affecting my life then would consider it as last resort - probably along the lines of asking the council for advice about what help dealing with the drug users next door rather than explicitly grassing. Then the next setp is up to the council - who might tell me to tell the police I suppose.

Bunnyhop - Member

there are so many of them smoking it fills most of our gardens and comes up through the windows.

Are they throwing bricks of it into a chiminea?

Is this him?

He's 5-0, look at his shoes!

Paint your car just like police car and park it out the front

You may want to get a police uniform too for added effect

The paranoia they'll experience will be incredible - they'll stop or move out very quickly!!

He's 5-0, look at his shoes!

😆

allthepies - Member
So when you said "perfectly legal" you meant "below the amount where the police can be arsed"

P.S You're not the Badger tubeless bloke are you ?

No I mean its perfectly legal. The law states that there must be sufficient quantity.....which a spliff does not contain!! (well some might well do but rather you than me smoke them regular)

No idea on badger ref

No idea on badger ref

🙂

You don't wanna be coming out with that sort of crazy talk around these parts...

Did someone say badger?

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Yeah sorry the dutch bloke shares the same name as Mr Badger.

thestabiliser - Member

"Is this him?"

He's 5-0, look at his shoes!

Only one way to find out, Snoop has a full proof (NSFW) method:

The law states that there must be sufficient quantity.

Perhaps the law has changed in the past few years, i was prosecuted for having a roach in my ashtray back in 1994 (£450 fine) and again in 1998 for having a pre-rolled joint in my pocket (£400 fine) this was in Dumfries & Galloway though, the procurator fiscal and police in this area are a bit backwards and jump on any chance to exercise their powers.

This thread has really went off topic, to the original problem echo others I'd just have a friendly (if that's possible) word with them saying the smell is very obvious.

The law states that there must be sufficient quantity

There is no allowed amount of illegal drugs you can have.
At an extremely low level of a wee hint in an otherwise empty bag they may let you go but they still could if they wanted to.

What ths thread has demonstrated to me is one should never get legal advice from a stoner 😛

He's 5-0, look at his shoes!

😀

Not keen on grassing people up but if affecting my life then would consider it as last resort - probably along the lines of asking the council for advice about what help dealing with the drug users next door rather than explicitly grassing

I think that's unfair and misleading. They're bound to think Heroin/Crackhouse when you put it like that. Mind you, I guess the OP would prefer that as there'd be less of a smell.

What ths thread has demonstrated to me is one should never get legal advice from a stoner

If you want a list of the top 5 cover versions of all time, that's been contemplated for years though, you know where to go

No I mean its perfectly legal. The law states that there must be sufficient quantity.....which a spliff does not contain!! (well some might well do but rather you than me smoke them regular)

As others have said, total bullshit.

A mate got a arrested, night in cells + a caution for having a tiny blim of resin in a cigarette packet and another got a cavity search after being caught with a spliff as in his own words "he was treating everywhere like Amsterdam, as what can they do?", but he was being gobby and a Doctor was already on site when he was arrested.

SO what is the OP's problem?

Is it the illegal drug use?

Is it the extremely low level of exposure to potential carcinogenic substance?

Or is it just the smell?

Only could someone on STW think that this poses some kind of real health risk!

No I mean its perfectly legal. The law states that there must be sufficient quantity.....which a spliff does not contain!! (well some might well do but rather you than me smoke them regular)

I doubt this.

A friend got pulled recently at a train station. A little sniffer dog started making a big fuss of him, probably because he smokes every day and stinks of the stuff. He never takes it out of the house though so thought it'd be cool. Anyway after an extensive search of his clothes and bags a small old dog-end was found in a pocket in a bag, probably been there from some festival ages ago. Arrested and cautioned. Awesome use of police time and resources 🙄

No I mean its perfectly legal. The law states that there must be sufficient quantity.....which a spliff does not contain!! (well some might well do but rather you than me smoke them regular)

That'll just be some sort of guideline for the police, not the law

A friend got pulled recently at a train station. A little sniffer dog started making a big fuss of him, probably because he smokes every day and stinks of the stuff. He never takes it out of the house though so thought it'd be cool. Anyway after an extensive search of his clothes and bags a small old dog-end was found in a pocket in a bag, probably been there from some festival ages ago. Arrested and cautioned.

I bet that's done his paranoia wonders........ 🙂

Only could someone on STW think that this poses some kind of real health risk!

I am not sure of the impact of cannabis on young children's health or mental health....

TBH cannabis is far from risk free as *everyone* has a story about someone who has totally lost the plot due to weed.

I am not sure of the impact of cannabis on young children's health or [b]mental health[/b]

I reckon this is the most dangerous aspect to cannabis and kids smoking it. As for those effects in this instance, I wouldn't like to say - you'd have to do some sort of PPM test or something similar to assess the risk.

TBH cannabis is fair from risk free as *everyone* has a story about someone who has totally lost the plot due to weed.

I think that says more about the user than the drug.

TBH cannabis is fair from risk free

That isn't what I meant.

The tiny quantities that will be inhaled passively, from several metres away and in the open, would pose no real risk to anyone's health.

Junkyard, I think you might be surprised what the law thinks about Cannabis, even to the extent that its the only Class B drug with its own special proceedures:
Rather than bore you with the [url= http://www.drugscope.org.uk/resources/drugsearch/drugsearchpages/cannabis-laws ]Drugscope [/url] pages long winded version I'll give you the Dutch version:

Caught once: You've been a naughty boy, throw it away

Caught twice: You've been a naughty boy again, throw it away again

Caught a 3rd time: Might treat you to a drive down the cop shop. Once down there and having stewed for a while in the cells, they'll let you go with a stern word....or Police Caution as they like to call it

Caught a 4th time: Same as above, but this time Segeant Noddy reckons you need teaching a lesson and says you'll go to court. They'll let you go and warn of a court date. CPS get hold of it and tell Sergeant Noddy to stop wasting his time.

You get the picture, unless we are talking about serious quantities then they police really do nothing about it. Its not worth their time to go chasing a few smokers when there are much more serious criminal activity going on around them. Litter dropping for example!

The tiny quantities that will be inhaled passively, from several metres away and in the open, would pose no real risk to anyone's health.

and your qualifications and/or clinical experience to make that statement are?

Or is that just your layman's opinion on something you have little real knowledge about? Not that I know any better; or claim to. However I wouldn't be happy to say that its completely safe for the OP kids and don't worry about it.

Biggest risk is when the OP's kids get to uni and they smell weed and it reminds them of childhood summer days playing in the garden, so they end up loving it, and trying it...

Nah... don't be daft Molls. Unless you're a complete amateur, or have been raised in a monastery, or something, then by the time you're at uni, its [url= http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/happiness-linked-to-being-on-mdma-2013070174373 ]MDMA[/url] and chop.

I think that says more about the user than the drug.

That's a good point, thing is its hard to know who is going to go *odd* and who is going to hang onto their marbles; and **** knows what it would do too small kids minds as its not as if they have the life experience to work out what's normal and what isn't.

Personally I would speak to the neighbours and ask them to calm it down a bit and smoke away from the house, as everywhere stinks of weed and it smells like a cannabis factory next door. If that doesn't work **** 'em and report it to the Police and let them deal with it.

Biggest risk is when the OP's kids get to uni and they smell weed and it reminds them of childhood summer days playing in the garden, so they end up loving it, and trying it..

We may have - inadvertently - solved another puzzle here.
How much cake were you exposed to as a child? 😉

Binners, I think Emma Bradford from your article has it spot on! 😯

and your qualifications and/or clinical experience to make that statement are?

Or is that just your layman's opinion on something you have little real knowledge about?

Are you seriously suggesting that it would be possible to inhale any significant quantity of the smoke from a joint, several metres away in the open air?

If it was the quantities of active ingredients inhaled by the person actually smoking it would be absolutely massive!

What about the smoke from a chimney or garden fire? Far more poisonous and a much greater quantity. Petrol and diesel fumes in a town centre?
What about filling your car at a petrol station with children in the car? Just think of all the vapour they will be inhaling!

When they get to secondary school, Molgrips.

Live and let live, as several have already said.

Can't somebody invent an e-cigarette that allows you to electronically smoke dope

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Are you seriously suggesting that it would be possible to inhale any significant quantity of the smoke from a joint, several metres away in the open air?

Just to play devil advocate; but that sounds very similar to the arguments made by the tobacco industry about passive smoking in general.

Think about it, if you can smell it then you are inhaling it. The dose might be small for an adult as its related to mass; but kids are pretty small so they need much less for the same effect. Personally I don't know what a *significant* dose is for a child, but surely that's for the child's parents to decide? Not you.

Molly get a grip and they do not have kids.

How much cake were you exposed to as a child?

I am not sure of the impact of cannabis on young children's health or mental health

Junkyard, I think you might be surprised what the law thinks about Cannabis

Think about it, if you can smell it then you are inhaling it.

I understand how our sense of smell works.

Just because you can smell something doesn't mean you are inhaling a significant quantity.

My point is that there are far more significant air pollutants that we are exposed to every day and they don't cause the majority of people to worry.

Short of keeping your children in plastic bubbles how can you protect children from them?

Personally, I think the OP is totally over reacting to what the neighbours are doing. Apart from having to suffer the slight odour what real harm is being done? Get a life is what I would suggest.

There is no way on this green earth that a child would get even remotely high from someone smoking a joint in an open air environment.

There is no way on this green earth that a child would get even remotely high from someone smoking a joint in an open air environment.

devil advocate: What about a group of people smoking joints underneath their open bedroom window? As that's what the OP is potentially living with.

Also surely it depends on the strength of the weed? As they aren't all equal in strength

Even if they were honking barneys blue cheese mixed with underground original killer skunk you would not get high from passive smoking when smoked outside, even with it drifting through an open window. Yes it would stink but you would not get high.

devil advocate: What about a group of people smoking joints underneath their open bedroom window? As that's what the OP is potentially living with.

Also surely it depends on the strength of the weed? As they aren't all equal in strength

The OP never said about smoking underneath the windows.

Even then, I don't believe any significant quantity of smoke could actually reach anyone inside. If it could then what about the CO poisoning risk from a neighbours wood burning stove?

I think the key here is 'Dealer', 'Large group', 'Morning Noon and Night'.

If my next door neighbour had a quiet toke, no probs.

If he's running a house for continuous use, get the plods in, it's not reasonable to live next door to that.

Smokers just don't get how offensive the smell is (TBH weed is much less offensive, but that's a different question).

Also, get a decent size barkey dog. That'll ruin it for them and they'll go elsewhere.

So, because their smoking outside is bothering you, you get a noisy dog to bother them? Perfect STW logic...

The OP never said about smoking underneath the windows.

Well this sorta implies that they are at least smoking near open windows.

there are so many of them smoking it fills most of our gardens and comes up through the windows.

fills most of our gardens

Not very likely is it? Unless it's something like this?

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Not very likely is it? Unless it's something like this?

I don't know, I haven't been to the OP house.

I have been in a few houses with that level of weed smoke coming out the windows though 🙂

"Fills most of our gardens"
Do you live next door to cheech and chong? 😀

Think about it, if you can smell it then you are inhaling it.

I used to work with someone who used this as the reason you should never fart in his presence.

[i]"It's like minute particles of your shit wafting up my snot box...!"[/i]

Oh, how we laughed.