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PS, on the photo it looks like someone has cleared the leaves to see where the edge of the surfacing is.
it could be argued successfully i feel that the hedge is indeed the boundary. and that has not been breached as the gardener has not touched any of the 'trunk' of the hedge only the branches that overhang the lane over which he presumably has a right of acess
They've waited until you've gone to work and butchered the hedge.
Has he? Or has he just done it during the day like you would?
Does he actually know it's your hedge, or does he just think of it as "the hedge down the lane", that might be owned by the council, or anybody, so nobody really minds? I wonder if he's blissfully ignorant as to what he's actually done...
If he's damaged anything that's on your land use you house insurance legal cover to sue him, first legal letter usually shits em up.
If it's not on your land then why should others have the inconvenience of your overgrown hedge scratching their cars.
It will probably grow back better if you trim it back all the way to the top so the overhang doesnt shade the lower stuff
If he's damaged anything that's on your land use you house insurance legal cover to sue him, first legal letter usually shits em up.
Really ?
Does he actually know it's your hedge, or does he just think of it as "the hedge down the lane", that might be owned by the council, or anybody, so nobody really minds? I wonder if he's blissfully ignorant as to what he's actually done...
Oh he knows.. he's been there 40+ years and I've been there 26. Just never really had any contact other than the odd nod.
What you cant see from that photo is that the first 15m of the border from the road is a brick wall.. then there's about 30m of hedge then the rest is made up of about 25 fence panels. I've always kept the hedge neatly cut to within about 6inch of the wall/fence. What was a nice 2-3ft thick hedge bordering my patio is now just a few inches thick.. he's hacked a good foot and a half of depth from a very old and established hedge.
Although very annoyed I'm just more concerned that he's not killed it as I actually liked it and would prefer it to grow back. There is also an added concern that my garden is a good foot lower than the lane and the only thing holding the lane up at that point was the old hedge. If anyone drives onto the soft ground on that photo the whole thing is likely to collapse into my garden.
Crap in his eyes and shave his cat.
I have to say though, he's done a bloody horrific job... I'd be knocking and having a chat about it.
There is also an added concern that my garden is a good foot lower than the lane and the only thing holding the lane up at that point was the old hedge.
so if the lane now collapses into your garden, meaning the lane isn't useable for vehicle access, who is responsible for fixing it ?....
In these days of overcrowded and over-parked suburban streets it's refreshing to hear of people wanting to park on their own land via a back alley rather than abandon it 2ft from their front door. The neighbourly thing for you to do would make it easy to do and encourage it happening more. Your hedge, whilst previously well maintained is unnecessarily thick and very close to the tyre track. The whole lot needs a good hack back.
Somewhere on another thread is another ranter saying 'for years he's let his hedge getting thicker and thicker with no consideration to our car getting scratched up so yesterday I went mental with a pair of shears - can't wait to see his face when he sees it. I'll bet he's out there with a camera taking photos to show to his online buddies'.
Dress as a hedgehog, go to his house and beat him whilst claiming he destroyed your house
Your hedge, whilst previously well maintained is unnecessarily thick and very close the tyre track. The whole lot needs a good hack back.
It is thick.. but it's thick on my property and wasnt encroaching onto the lane more than a few inches.
I get what you're saying though, that track is about 6ft wide and a hell of a squeeze for cars. Unfortunately I dont feel it's my place to donate some of my garden so they can drive comfortably to the rear of their property.. I'll sell them some of course ๐ They are all 4 story 7 bed Victorian villas so they can certainly afford it.
Unfortunately I dont feel it's my place to donate some of my garden so they can drive comfortably to the rear of their property.
Your garden? Come on! Can you bbq in the middle of your hedge? Have you ever sat in a deckchair reading a book in the middle of your hedge? In fact have you ever even stood in the middle of your hedge? The useable bit of your garden is the edge of the other side of your hedge - if it's fresh air or leaves on that bit of land is just semantics.
I'd also be amazed if the deeds on a property of that age are accurate enough to show where within the hedge line the actual boundary is- it won't be the edge of the tyre track.
end his life now......
or.... i completely see how you would be upset, im not one of the 'hey get a life' super cool dudes here. But... I would take a breath, think, pause for thought. Leave it a couple of days try not to think about it, and think about what you want to do after that. Maybe drop a note in his house and mention that you are happy to trim the hedge a bit further back, could he/she discuss it with you in future? If it has gone past the boundary of your house then I would consider trimming the hedge back and erecting a fence to be clear of the boundary. I don't think that is being unreasonable.
Trimming away the overhang of what he's left sounds like a good idea.
He's done an awful job, but I agree about the possibly of putting posts in
being seen as a 'passive aggressive wind up' kind of move by him. Whatever you decide, peacefulness has got to be the best way ahead so he's more likely to agree about something you want his cooperation with in the future...
It was 6" into the lane and now you're saying its 3" into the lane... Basically if you knew it was taking up more space than was strictly yours for all those years I think you have been asking for this day as the neighbours probably think you are a bit of an ass hat for making their lives harder.
Problem with neighbourly tiff's is that grown men are scared to talk to each other and it all becomes ridiculous...
If you don't see that side of the hedge or use that lane... but others do want to drive down it then why not sell it to them like you mentioned and put a fence or wall up or whatever you want on the new boundary.
They get the access they need to a property they've had all their lives.. you make a few quid and get a proper boundary and no one thinks you're a dick (whether you are or aren't).
It'll save some hassle all around... if the conversation with the neighbours goes sour then go to plan b.. land mines, dog shit bombs, razor wire, shitting on his cat ect..
Did he return/offer to return any of your hedge that he removed? IANAL but I'm sure that before you go chopping anything that doesn't belong to you that overhangs/grows on to your property that you must return it
I'd be asking for it back to be petty and annoying (but right)
Oh and key his car too, that'll learn him
*Also to be fair it looks like he's done a shit job on purpose so that you can finish it so he doesn't have the hassle to do it all himself.
I do also agree it looks like he's scraped back to see where the line was and has taken the growth off and left the trunks
I'd be asking for it back to be petty and annoying (but right)
That will end well.
Property boundaries cause some many problems.
I would go and speak to him and agree a way forward. Trim it back neatly together?
I#m not sure why you think it's reasonable to have your hedge over hanging a shared access road that doesn't belong to you?
*Also to be fair it looks like he's done a shit job on purpose so that you can finish it so he doesn't have the hassle to do it all himself"
....or, hes fed up waiting for the hedge to be trimmed back to the boundary and has just done the job as quickly and easily as he can.
ps. I'd still install boundary markers, if only to make sure things dont encroach over time ๐
Has he got the landowners permission to use the lane ?
hahaha
.. Any green fingered experts here know what the chances of the privet regrowing at the bottom are?
Very high, 2 years ago I butchered mine back from 10 foot to 12" stumps, they're approaching 4 foot again and will need trimming this year. Only way you'll kill them is by pulling the roots up.
Move on, your stressing over bushes, you must have something more important to do/worry about.
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Move on, your stressing over bushes, you must have something more important to do/worry about.
The fact that the hedge is the only thing holding up the garden structurally, for instance?
Having good Neighbourly relations sometimes strike me as being a bit like global politics, with homes being akin to countries with a mixture of mutual and conflicting interests. It's important to maintain harmony so agreement can be more easily found when it's needed.
I think this is the key statement, I do try to avoid any conflict as its the last thing you want to deal with in your own place. Having said that, I agree its worth knocking on his door and asking him if he was aware that he had destroyed a hedge on your property? Nothing aggressive there, just puts him in a position to explain himself whilst feeling uncomfortable about it.
The fact that the hedge is the only thing holding up the garden structurally, for instance?
It'll be the roots doing that, though.
It's privet. You should see how much we massacre it in the local park, it always comes back, and bushier than before.
I'd go for Jamie's solution, but with the razor wire. It's your boundary, and you want it to be reasonably secure.
Writing as an old git, if you leave it too long he'll assume he has the right to drive over your patch.
Jamie's disappearing bollard (with the eyes) would be an ideal punishment in this situation.
I fear you may be making an appearance on "Angry People In Local News" following some of these suggestions...
I think that's taking the Michael . Will they be back tomorrow to do the rest?
On a positive note, he's cleaned up after himself well.
& I would cut the overhang to ensure even re growth too.
As said it will grow back. You won't see it from yopur side so uneven doesn't matter. When I moved into my house onr side of the rear garden had a 5ft wide privet hedge. I cut back the 3ft on my side to the metal fence buried in the middle. Re-gained 3ft width of garden. Now have a tidy trimmed hedge rather than the overgrown mess it was.
I gained 5ft of garden at the other side by removing a leylandi hedge (trunks my side of boundary) and putting up a fence within my boundary.
If it is the OP's hedge it is pretty overgrown. No wonder the neighbour trimmed it. Though a bit of comms first would have helped.
Privet recovers quite quick. The best way to maintain a hedge is a nice triangular shape thicker at the bottom and narrowed at the top so the light keeps it all bushy otherwise it ends up looking like it is now when you need to do major works on it.
Can I just say it's good to have Jamie back doing what he does best! ๐
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Professional gardener here privet does grow back well but the way that's been cut it may not green up where the bare stems are as the side branches have been removed but the top will keep growing. It would green out better lower down if you loped the outer most stems to about 3ft. I'd be annoyed too but this happens a lot. One morning a man with a chain saw appeared in the middle of my conifer hedge cutting a huge chunk out halfway along. My neighbour and I share a double row (one row on my property and one on theirs)of conifer around 7 to 8 ft high which give us privacy in our gardens and from looking into each others houses when in the garden. But they decided they couldn't be bothered to maintain their side anymore so instructed a butcher to deal with it including my hedge. I stopped him but it's full of holes that will never regrow as it's conifer.
I wouldn't put posts in that will cause hassle with your neighbour and may damage the roots of the hedge. I would maybe plant a few bare root privet whips in the bald spot and tell him you'd like to maintain your privacy from the lane and please do not cut anything past your boundary line.
Can't you go round and "own him with some bombers" or is that no longer an STW thing?







