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My observations are:
- Living near other people is generally the pits.
- Farmers have a very binary view of the world: you're a farmer or you're not. And if you're not, you're barely shit on their shoe
- It'll get quieter in the winter because (1) you won't have your windows open and (2) he won't be out as late (though it will get worse in August obviously)
- Once the baby arrives you'll find the sound of the tractor running is the only thing that will get the little sod off to sleep when you've been woken for the sixth time that night....
leaves at about 4.30 am every day, and returns at about 10.30-11pm
Leaving 6 hours to eat supper and breakfast, shower, sleep, and do everything else. And you're surprised that he's a bit grumpy.
He does sound like a bit of a bell-end IMHO...
IME noisy neighbours don't often a F about disturbing others, in fact I think complaining just encourages them.
In some part of their weak brain it's a win for them if they've wound someone up. An attitude I've never understood & never been able to reason with...
why run it for 5 minutesTo warm it up.
buy him an engine heater and then he won't have to warm it up for so long.
buy him an engine heater and then he won't have to warm it up for so long.
It's 30 degrees out there, so should take less than 2 mins to warm up...
Just talk to the council and let them decide if the fact he works long hours justifies driving around a village in a tractor in the middle of the night.
[i]An attitude I've never understood & never been able to reason with... [/i]
Avoid Twitter 😉
it's customs and excise for evading the duty on fuel, and hmrc if you think he's getting benefit from using a company vehicle to get to/from work without paying the tax.
i'd be more inclined to get an air con unit personally. it's an affront to manhood but it's never going to end well if he won't even have a conversation about it.
if you were going to make a problem for him though i'd give fair warning, and if he still behaves badly, do the above and also the noise route. if you're going in you'd better go balls deep.
To warm it up.
Well, considering it sounds like he might be using it 13 hours a day I don't think warming it up is really necessary. Not as if he's popping to get the Sunday papers in it!
Nick it while he leaves it idling, go and do doughnuts in his field, then burn it out.
Always works for me.
To warm it up.
Which is not needed
"While it does take longer for motor oil to pump in extreme cold temperatures, we are talking milliseconds, not minutes," she said. "Your engine will warm up the oil much faster when driving at full speed — not to mention idling wastes gas.
the worst point is the start point/cranking after that the oil is flowing anyway
IME noisy neighbours don't often a F about disturbing others, in fact I think complaining just encourages them. In some part of their weak brain it's a win for them if they've wound someone up. An attitude I've never understood & never been able to reason with...
+1
As a farmer, he will have access to a whole arsenal of creative ways to get his own back. Wouldn't be one of my top ten people to start a feud with.
As a farmer, he will have access to a whole arsenal of creative ways to get his own back. Wouldn't be one of my top ten people to start a feud with.
Or you could put up with a few minutes of diesel idling noise a day and display a shred of empathy for a chap who sounds like he works 100hr weeks
I used to love this place... I'd stroll into a debate, drop one of my trademark slightly fascist or intolerant "thread bombs" and watch the liberals running round like headless chucks trying out out-do one another in the mock indignation stakes.
Now the liberals have cottoned on to my little game, and I'm not sure I like it! 🙁
Does sound like you're a bit screwed after the being reasonable approach failed, I can't see the HMRC route going anywhere and if it did chances are you'd end up regretting it as they would be pretty sure it was you that shopped them 🙁
I'd be pissed off in your circumstances though and think you have every right to be, the muppets posting otherwise should try putting up with being woken at 4:30am every day and see how they like it. Fair enough if you lived next door to the farm, you should have had that expectation when purchasing the property but in a residential area screw that.
IME noisy neighbours don't often a F about disturbing others,
IME, most of them do not have a choice. They *have* to get work done, at a time not of their choosing etc.
the muppets posting otherwise should try putting up with being woken at 4:30am every day and see how they like it.
Feel free to borrow my daughter/cats/neighbouring farmers/my alarm clock for work and I'll have my first lie in for years!
Serious suggestion - tell the **** to ride a bicycle to his ****ing farm.
I'd put up with it for about 18 months. Then, one bright, shiny morning get out there and nice and early so you can hear him wail as he realises that he's toasted his livelihood by voting for brexit.
Be kind-give him fifty quid for the tractor, then burn it, in front of his house, screaming "HOW YOU LIKING IT NOW WURZEL!!".
Just a thought.
IME, most of them do not have a choice. They *have* to get work done, at a time not of their choosing etc.
Did you think this one through?
Our old noisy neighbours used to break out the kareoke machine at 2am. The whole family. Kids and all. Parents were on benefits. No work was getting done. It was definitely at a time of their choosing.
I thought the overwhelming desire of the british was to get back to the good old days?
this is pretty much how it was done in the middle ages. although then it was a noisy cow that was fed on red turnips.
Difficult isnt it.
Not really. There are laws covering noise, antisocial hours and the use of red diesel (assuming he is of course, but it's a fair assumption). It's easily resolved by leaving his tractor at work and commuting by car / bike, the only justification I can see for his behaviour is "because I can." He probably gets a kick out of the fact it winds up others.
Council, Environment Agency, Customs & Excise and HMRC might all have an interest in his antics. Get some emails sent.
Now the liberals have cottoned on to my little game, and I'm not sure I like it
Now the Moderators have cottoned on to your little game, it'll earn you (another) ban.
Now the Moderators have cottoned on to your little game, it'll earn you (another) ban.
[hypothetical]
If one were to report people for outrageously provocative liberally über-tolerent trolling, would it be taken seriously but the mods? 😉
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If one were to report people for outrageously provocative liberally über-tolerent trolling, would it be taken seriously but the mods?
It sounds like you could do with a break from your computer screen TBH pal.
Even mowing the school playing field as a favour would require white diesel to be used (recent case where farmer was fined for just this).
Please cite the case and the law, cheers.
We look into all complaints, no matter how deranged they are.
Please cite the case and the law, cheers.
Literally the first hit on a google search was this
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-13805083
Not a school playing field but still, close enough.
IME, most of them do not have a choice.
DIY at 11.30pm come under that category?
Some good suggestions from both sides of the lefty liberal do-gooder/loony brexiteer divide.
Look, I totally understand he has to get to work on his farm, and that he works bloody hard and really long hours. I grew up working on a neighbouring dairy farm - basically child-labour, earned a pittance, and up at the crack of dawn to be shouted at by the owner, one Mr Freeman.
On the other hand, he chose to move away from his farm to this house. So why can't he just leave the tractor at work, and drive there in the mahoosive pickup truck that sits unused outside the house day in and day out.
I'm actually not that bothered by the noise (years of tractor noise and other assorted farm machinery as a kid has rendered me pretty much immune) but every morning and night it wakes up our 3 year old. In fact she now wakes up and has a massive screaming fit that 'the noisy monster is going to eat her'. It is also making it impossible for my 8 month pregnant wife to get a good night's sleep. Yes, I know that in 4 weeks time the tractor noise will probably be the least of our worries, but his attitude still peeves me.
but his attitude still peeves me.
...then you must kill him.
With kindness?
Actually maybe that's it. I'll make him a really nice victoria sponge, take it round and flirt outrageously with him. He'll be moved out within the week.
Actually maybe that's it. I'll make him a really nice victoria sponge, take it round and flirt outrageously with him. He'll be moved out within the week.
Do this and covertly film it.
Tell him your having a party for the adults, then as he walks in, tell him to put the tractor keys in a bowl?
We look into all complaints, no matter how deranged they are.
Good stuff.
What about people that post
?Please cite the case and the law
It seems to be creeping in more and more. It stifles borderline-slanderous gossip and conjecture and will be the final nail in the urban myth's coffin.
It stifles borderline-slanderous gossip and conjecture and will be the final nail in the urban myth's coffin.
You got any evidence for that? Anecdotal? Thought so.
You live in the countryside and complain about the farmers. Was brought up on farm. This about sums peoples attitude to those that work in the countryside.
We like the look of the countryside but not the farmers making a living. Early start and late finish is required to put long days in to make money and keep the countryside looking how you like it.
Around here people complain about the smell of the sheep. Of course that's because they moved into the countryside from the town and have no idea what makes it tick.
This about sums peoples attitude to those that work in the countryside
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Grew up on a farm, went to agricultural college, worked on a farm, owned a farm.
Like all things, there are 2 sides to every story.
You got any evidence for that? Anecdotal? Thought so.
Listen pal, some of my best friends are urban myths... 😉
people complain about the smell of the sheep
Sounds to me like an anecdote. You got a (mint) sauce for that?
You live in the countryside and complain about the farmers. Was brought up on farm. This about sums peoples attitude to those that work in the countryside.
In your rush to play the victim, you seem to have overlooked that the OP lives in a small town, three miles away from the farm.
We like the look of the countryside but not the farmers making a living.
I think the look of the countryside would be greatly enhanced if farmers stopped wrecking it.
It stifles borderline-slanderous gossip and conjecture and will be the final nail in the urban myth's coffin.
No, it just helps reduce the number of morons making shit up
Pawsey_Bear You live in the countryside and complain about the farmers.
err no
ajantom (Op) It's a residential street on the edge of a small East Devon town, houses on both sides, pavements, streetlamps, a primary school 100m up the road. So not in the middle of nowhere! I think the farm is about 3 miles away.