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[Closed] Naomi Osaka withdrawing from French Open

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The behind the scenes people in tennis give me the creeps.


 
Posted : 02/06/2021 10:14 pm
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Which is why they stay behind the scenes - in all sports.
The sort of people you wouldn't trust with your children.


 
Posted : 02/06/2021 10:23 pm
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Reasonable accommodations can be made only.

Like skipping the bullshit, pointless post-match press conferences?


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 12:24 am
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Whether there will be a long term change by tournament organisers – in all sports – is a complete unknown.

You make it sounds like giving a press conference is inherently harmful.

When the world’s ranked no2 player tells you that she’s not up to doing the press in the format that it’s in currently, what was their response?

Perhaps she could have discussed it with them first before unilaterally declaring that she wasn't going to do part of her job?


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 12:25 am
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You make it sounds like giving a press conference is inherently harmful.

Are you Piers Morgan in disguise?

Perhaps she could have discussed it with them first before unilaterally declaring that she wasn’t going to do part of her job?

Perhaps she did.


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 12:34 am
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I’m sure most people who work would love to be able to avoid meetings with clients on the grounds that it could damage their mental health?!

A job cannot become a personal therapy session. Reasonable accommodations can be made only.

The actual ****???

You sound like a ****ing delight, I bet any person with mental health problems would be over the moon to have you as a work colleague or manager.


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 7:40 am
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You sound like a **** delight, I bet any person with mental health problems would be over the moon to have you as a work colleague or manager.

Just highlights how some people really don't really accept mental health issues doesn't it. Luckily a lot of people are waking up to it and this is a good outcome in this case as shows progress is being made but there will always be the "just pull yourself together" brigade.


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 8:20 am
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Are you Piers Morgan in disguise?

You mean the guy who flounced off his own show rather than face criticism?


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 9:08 am
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Did anyone hear venus williams take on this?

Intense.. you can just feel how much she despises some of these cretins.


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 9:26 am
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You make it sounds like giving a press conference is inherently harmful.

Well, the 11th seed fell over on the way out of hers yesterday and had to withdraw injured. So it's clearly a risky business.


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 10:02 am
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Just highlights how some people really don’t really accept mental health issues doesn’t it. Luckily a lot of people are waking up to it and this is a good outcome in this case as shows progress is being made but there will always be the “just pull yourself together” brigade.

+1

Personally I've gone from "get on the ****ing plane or else" in 2001 to options for virtual attendance via teams today (even pre covid).


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 10:05 am
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Haven't heard it, but do you mean she hates the press/media or her competitors?


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 10:11 am
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Just highlights how some people really don’t really accept mental health issues doesn’t it.

I not sure we should just default to an affirmative stance when someone unilaterally declares that they have X mental health condition.

These things are diagnosed by professionals.


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 12:56 pm
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You don't have to ask for someone's medical records before you help them. I suppose a tiny dash of empathy is required though, and not everyone can manage that.


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 12:58 pm
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I not sure we should just default to an affirmative stance when someone unilaterally declares that they have X mental health condition.

I don't think we should either, but Osaka is just the most recent of a long list of athletes who've expressed the thought that post match interviews aren't great. All the way from Nadal pretty much saying exactly the same thing last year (which went totally unremarked upon) to Marshawn Lynch's "I'm just here so I don't get fined..."

It doesn't take a genius to work out that the combined vested interests of sports organisations and media interests are putting their needs ahead of those of the players/athletes. perhaps it's time that was changed?


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 1:05 pm
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It doesn’t take a genius to work out that the combined vested interests of sports organisations and media interests are putting their needs ahead of those of the players/athletes. perhaps it’s time that was changed?

And what are the interests of the players?


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 1:25 pm
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It doesn’t take a genius to work out that the combined vested interests of sports organisations and media interests are putting their needs ahead of those of the players/athletes. perhaps it’s time that was changed?

They have a symbiotic relationship. Athletes sign contracts for money. Sponsors and broadcasters provide that money in exchange for the athletes being available for media duties. Whenever there are large sums of money sloshing around, there will be people trying to get some of it. The people involved will range from genuinely decent people who love the sport through to outright criminals. This is not new.


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 1:30 pm
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Athletes sign contracts for money

hmmm, part of the issue for me, is that athletes are being signed up for sponsorship at an early age, Osaka turned pro at 16. I don't know many 16 years if offered alot of  money for something they enjoy doing and are good at would necessarily stop and say, "y'know, I don't think I'll sign because of the impact this might have on me later on"


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 1:40 pm
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And what are the interests of the players?

Good health? Who knows, it probably ranges from "I enjoy doing press conferences", all the way through to "I hate them with a passion" I don't think it's beyond the wit of humans to accommodate that spectrum.


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 1:42 pm
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Osaka turned pro at 16. I don’t know many 16 years if offered alot of money for something they enjoy doing and are good at would necessarily stop and say, “y’know, I don’t think I’ll sign because of the impact this might have on me later on”

Their parents are supposed to prioritize the welfare of the child over money. Sadly, many don't and a lot of child stars end up with serious problems.


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 1:44 pm
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Did you just actually "blame the parents"


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 1:50 pm
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And what are the interests of the players?

Seriously? Obvious troll is obvious.


 
Posted : 03/06/2021 2:54 pm
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