Bit of a rambling 'thinking-out-loud' type post, so apologies in advance.
My neighbour was convicted of possessing and distributing child porn around 5 years ago and served 1 year of a 2 year prison sentence. Since leaving prison, he was virtually housebound due to disability, but having recently had a leg amputated, he's now very active, walking around the local parks and roads.
Due to some sort of weird inverse snobbery, a lot of villagers seem to want to sweep it under the carpet, so 5 years after his conviction, his crimes are largely forgotten, and due to a lot of new housing development in the village, a lot of people are unaware that he's a convicted peadophile.
To make matters worse, he seems to be getting a bit of a reputation as the nice old one-legged man who's always keen to stop and have a chat.
Am I wrong to feel angry and concerned that he's enjoying wandering around pretty much unencumbered by his past crimes? There are 2 primary schools in the village, so a lot of young families, many of whom I'm sure would be horrified to know that the friendly old monoped that they chat to with the kids has been to prison for viewing (and selling!) the worst category of child sexual abuse images... But it seems many locals would rather keep quiet than openly discuss the fact that they share their village with a monster.
What is the legal position relating to making his recent past a little more widely known?
12 pages?
Trolling surely?
I reckon the kids can outrun him.
And 14 pages with extra hand-wringing and at least two simpson's "think of the children"
A mono-podophile...
many locals would rather keep quiet than openly discuss the fact that they share their village with a monster.
As a father, I sympathise with your concerns, but I am not sure I agree with your second last statement. The fact that he is a paedophile does not make him a monster. It almost certainly makes him someone to be concerned about around children, but I would reserve more extreme language for people filled with hate and death (Daesh, for example).
In any case, I had a situation like this in a small town in Canada that I needed to deal with, so called my local detachment of the RCMP. They advised me that asking responsible adults to be alert to trouble and creating as safe environment as possible was the only real course of action we could take. After all, if the man has done his time already, he has a right to live [I]somewhere[/I].
Well he could try to sue you for libel, but he wouldn't have a....
Legally (unlike him), you may not have a leg to stand on.
At least learn how to spell paedophile for the posters.
Otherwise you won't have a legume to stand on.
It almost certainly makes him someone to be concerned about around children, but I would reserve more extreme language for people filled with hate and death (Daesh, for example).
His 'defense' centred on his claims that the images he had weren't for his own gratification, but were a 'business opportunity' for him to sell the images to other peadophiles - which he did on an industrial scale.
The images included the rape of babies... I think 'monster' is a pretty good word for him!
They advised me that asking responsible adults to be alert to trouble and creating as safe environment as possible was the only real course of action we could take.
This is what I was thinking - I'm not talking about daubing graffiti on his house, but perhaps just putting the word out that the one-legged wanderer has a past that should be of concern to most right-minded people...
Since I have a similar issue.....
[url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-should-i-do-about-my-neighbour ]http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-should-i-do-about-my-neighbour[/url]
...I will, for once, refrain from making dumb ass jokes on this thread.
As you remember Perchy, I was part of that discussion and shared a lot of my past experiences. The worrying part is that the locals are so stuck up and worried about the reputation of their middle-class enclave that they're happy to forget his crimes...
Maybe he's no longer that way inclined...
He's not a paedo anymore cos he's done his time!
No you sausage, it's a play on words, even paedos get it
Perchy, what did he get in the end, 10,000 images wasn't it?
Maybe he's no longer that way inclined...
If they outlawed images of busty brunettes of child-bearing age, no amount of 'bird' would prevent me wanting to look at pictures of them!
This is what I was thinking - I'm not talking about daubing graffiti on his house, but perhaps just putting the word out that the one-legged wanderer has a past that should be of concern to most right-minded people..
So you'll go round bad mouthing him to other people in the village. Classy....
Maybe as he's your neighbour, you should go and talk to him. Have a frank conversation - see if he feels any remorse? Or maybe you should keep your kids away from him and mind your own?
If they outlawed images of busty brunettes of child-bearing age, no amount of 'bird' would prevent me wanting to look at pictures of them!
Ah, troll then...
Perchy, what did he get in the end, 10,000 images wasn't it?
12 months jail time, 10 years on the Sex Offenders register.
Turns out it was 20,000 images including 3000 Cat A.
He'll be out by Christmas most likely.
Inclined, it was a one legged joke (for the hard of thinking and professionally offended)
So you'll go round bad mouthing him to other people in the village. Classy....
I personally think the nature of his crimes makes him beneath contempt - I have no moral qualms about informing newcomers to the village to be on their guard, and I certainly don't want any form of interaction with him!
Ah, troll then...
Why on earth would that be a troll? You seem to be the only one trying to pick an argument, I've asked a question that I'd like advice on, maybe you should stop posting on the thread if you've nothing sensible or constructive to offer...
The worrying part is that the locals are so stuck up and worried about the reputation of their middle-class enclave that they're happy to forget his crimes...
How do you know this?
Are you sure they don't just find it a bit awkward to bring up?
They're probably starting similar threads on StuckUpVillageTrackWorld as we speak.
Inclined, it was a one legged joke (for the hard of thinking and professionally offended)
Only the left-leaning types will be offended. Don't know if this includes the OP's perp. 🙂
Legally speaking, this potentially falls under harassment, and I wouldn't want to be the spark that triggers violence against him. Libel, not so much, given his lack of reputation, even though, if what he says is true, he isn't strictly speaking a paedophile...
Have you thought about moving ?
22 pages and a picture of the Simpsons pitchfork cartoon.
[i]Only the left-leaning types will be offended.[/i]
I do wonder at this. Like people who have right wing views are literally right thinking and therefore have the only reasonable viewpoint on anything where there may be a moral view to be taken.
And why introduce politics into a debate about a moral dilemma if not to say that those who are not right wing have no opinions worth canvassing?
I personally think the nature of his crimes makes him beneath contempt
So do I and were it pictures of my children he had sold then I'd want a far worse punishment that prison for him - in fact I don't have children and still I struggle with how someone like that can get away with it.
However that's not how the world works is it. Simply going round whispering to others about the 'dirty paedo' doesn't do you any favours, to me it just looks a bit cowardly and something the local village gossips would do.
Speaking to him lets him know that you're aware of what he's done which is no bad thing. He's your neighbour, you have to live next to the man.
[i]Inclined, it was a one legged joke[/i]
No response doesn't mean no-one got it!
I do wonder at this
T'was also a one-legged joke. Sorry.
Speaking to him lets him know that you're aware of what he's done which is no bad thing. He's your neighbour, you have to live next to the man.
I did that when he got out of prison. But that's not what I came here to ask about. Have a read of the original post, it might refresh your memory.
Out of interest as there may be someone on here who might know, does UK last differentiate between paedophilia, Hebephilia or Ephebophilia?
All of which involve minors (depending on local).
What would be the change that you hope to cause? The concern seems to be that he is not active and able to move around. Imprisonment or house arrest was not seemed necessary by the courts (rightly or wrongly) who have the only authority to act.
I guess the guy is on a register and is monitored. While I wouldn't have him round for tea or have him babysit I can't see the positive outcome of "outing" him publicly for the community or him. There have always been plenty of weird people hanging around your parents told you not to go near just add this one to the list.
He's got to live somewhere, if he's done his time. Maybe you should move? (Tho how you'd know that where you moved to was "safe" is a puzzle)
But the thing is (despite his history) is he actually a risk to children in the community? He hasn't made images of nor abused children himself - he simply distributed images. So, whilst I don't condone what he did at all, doing what he has done doesn't necessarily make him any more danger than any other random weirdo.
You could also look at it like this OP – have you ever pulled one out over internet porn of a type you would never get to live out in real life and if you did, you could get into trouble for (ie, voyeuristic/exhibitionistic images)...
[i]T'was also a one-legged joke. Sorry. [/i]
ah, that sound I heard was it whooshing over my head!
What would be the change that you hope to cause?
I personally don't feel comfortable with him chatting to parents with young children. He's quite charismatic and affable (I met him before his conviction) and he seems to be basking in the new-found celebrity that his mechanical leg seems to have brought... I've seen him on several occasions chatting to parents with children who are obviously asking about his leg.
If he's attracted to children, it doesn't take a huge leap of imagination to figure that he might be getting some sort of gratification from this...
For what it's worth, our solution to this has been to sit our kids down, read through the newspaper articles with them and explain in unemotive terms what our neighbour has gone to jail for.
It would be easy to make him into a monster but we've tried not to demonise him whilst still getting across the message that he is a bad man and is to be avoided.
We have told them that they shouldn't have any contact at all with him when he gets out.
Hopefully, they will disseminate this message to the other local kids.
What else can you reasonably do?
Hopefully, they will disseminate this message to the other local kids.What else can you reasonably do?
My only child is still 2-3 weeks away, so I obviously have a vested interest in this man's future movements, Junior isn't able to help yet!
I did that when he got out of prison. But that's not what I came here to ask about. Have a read of the original post, it might refresh your memory.
I've read it twice - you still sound like you're being a busybody.
If they outlawed images of busty brunettes of child-bearing age, no amount of 'bird' would prevent me wanting to look at pictures of them
Being that the definition of child bearing being the period of a woman's life between puberty and menopause...
You asked a question on a forum. You will get some responses that you don't like. I can't sit here and say informing other villagers of his past crimes is the right thing to do because I don't feel it is. Apart from the fact that it might spur on some moron to take it upon themselves to give him a good kicking (regardless of whether he deserves it), it doesn't paint you in a brilliant light.
is he actually a risk to children in the community? He hasn't made images of nor abused children himself - he simply distributed images.
Genuine 😯
Genuine 😯
After reading the second half of his post, I chose to ignore it on the basis that he's a troll...
I am just trying to offer a different viewpoint to encourage further discussion. As a father of two young girls myself I have no idea how I would feel in the real world.
Johndo, you went on to suggest most of us have cracked one off to images we shouldn't have... Not cool.
Is a peadophile someone who gets off on petit pois?
Johndo, you went on to suggest most of us have cracked one off to images we shouldn't have... Not cool.
Well no, not if you read it properly – I am not suggesting anyone has looked at images of children. But there is tons of stuff out there of things that would get you into trouble if caught doing yourself (ie dogging).
The difference being that you're now talking about consenting adults, not defenseless babies who can't possibly consent, legally, verbally or otherwise!
But there is tons of stuff out there of things that would get you into trouble if caught doing yourself (ie dogging).
**** me this has reached peak STW. Pack it up folks, we're done here.
