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My Hi-Fi is better than yours. FACT.

But mine goes to eleven...
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Posted : 20/06/2015 12:36 pm
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All of the above technical geekery is all well and good but the salient point is : Will Mr Real Hoops let my daughter bring Wheatus to his studio and and will he do is knob turning and button sliding black magic to make their attempted comeback single sound even half decent for not much (if any) money?


 
Posted : 20/06/2015 12:36 pm
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Those Barefoot monitors are not "little speakers" in the sense of their ability. They each have dual side-mounted force cancelling woofers with high volume displacement which allows comparable performance to the 15" ATCs
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So, kinda like these:

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Did we ever find out if they were any good then?

Point of order:

"Frequency Response:
30Hz – 45kHz (±3dB),
40Hz – 40kHz (±1dB"

http://barefootsound.com/micromain27/

"Amplitude Linearity (±2dB): 50Hz-12kH
Cut-off Frequencies (-6dB):
25Hz, 20kHz (free standing)
20Hz, 20kHz (soffit mounted"

http://www.atcloudspeakers.co.uk/professional/loudspeakers/scm300asl-pro/

Mad - how can my 2xlittle KEF B139B drivers in my coffin sub go lower than those ATCs? Must be all down to the mounting/positioning.


 
Posted : 20/06/2015 12:54 pm
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The most important piece of equipment is whatever translates the signal in the first place to pass it on down the chain - CD player, turntable cartridge/arm/turntable or DAC.

There is certainly a degree of "art" (or snake oil) to turntables. As far as digital goes, these days getting an accurate signal off the medium is trivial as is amplifying it. The real skill lies in converting the electrical signal into an audible waveform.


 
Posted : 20/06/2015 3:36 pm
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therealhoops, does yours have magical 'aligned' copper supply cables from the mains?

BTW, liking the desk. Though reminded of the excitement John Vanderslice expressed about the desk at Tiny Telephone Oakland
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Posted : 20/06/2015 8:54 pm
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Mad - how can my 2xlittle KEF B139B drivers in my coffin sub go lower than those ATCs? Must be all down to the mounting/positioning.

Would that be a low note or a low thump of some indeterminate frequency?


 
Posted : 20/06/2015 9:51 pm
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It's pretty tuneful, ta.

It is all down to room positioning, as the ATC's specs say - how you mount it make a difference and it's coupled to the room in two places 🙂

And it's huge.

Away from the middle of the room, the response is down to 33Hz very nearly linear. Drops off a cliff after that, though.

Anyway, I'm sure it's not a patch on the the distortion figures those big ATC speakers get, but I do find it interesting. Bass is just a big weird, TBH.

As Turner guy pointed out there's a lot of distortion from speakers, and at the bass end weird stuff happens.

Anyway I really like it, it was an ebay bargain [no-one knows what to bid when they see an auction for a 5'7" seat/subwoofer with cushions and tiles included].

Rock on 🙂


 
Posted : 20/06/2015 10:12 pm
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eerk - edit/time trap - you can figure-out how i was going to restructure that post.

Meanwhile - what about these puppies:

CGG - what about these massive old Japanese speakers with their crazy arrays? Is it all talk and no trousers, or are they really able to justify the size?


 
Posted : 20/06/2015 10:29 pm
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Mr Woppit. 🙂

Your adherence to, or, if I may, faith in Flat Earth is endearing.
It's a brilliant theory - it works worderfully on paper.
And, like Scientology, the more you spend, the closer you get to the 'truth'.

But, as with all belief systems which rely on faith, it doesn't work when applied to real people.
They have an awful habit of beliving their own ears.

You can stick the purest signal you like through a pair of Kans and it'lll still sound awful.
Some prefer the presentation over the content - no right or wrong, just different.


 
Posted : 20/06/2015 10:38 pm
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One was good at musicality but had no stereo presentation to speak of, another was clinically accurate with instrument placement but completely un-musica

PARKLIFE!


 
Posted : 20/06/2015 10:41 pm
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Don't come the raw prawn Flashy, I reckon you're no stranger to a perfectly set vta.

I had low level splashback once.
It was so embarrassing.


 
Posted : 20/06/2015 10:47 pm
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No.
Your recording studio is better than mine.
Because i haven't fuuuukingggg got one.
FAC****


 
Posted : 20/06/2015 10:51 pm
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You can stick the purest signal you like through a pair of Kans and it'lll still sound awful.

So

1: it's possible to achieve a "purer" ( by which I assume you mean "more complete and detailed of content") signal.

and

2: This will be relayed more fully by better quality speakers.

I agree. That's what I've been saying. So you're disagreeing with your own premise?

Odd.


 
Posted : 21/06/2015 10:54 am
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Did we ever find out if they were any good then?

Impressive for their size but ultimately that is it, not something that you would want to listen to for hours on end for their own sake.


 
Posted : 21/06/2015 12:07 pm
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I'm not a hifi expert like some on here, but can you just talk me through this point by point Mr. W?

A HiFi system is built with the intention of delivering to your ears, a fully accurate as possible representation of the entirety of the source content (contained in/on CD/download file/vinyl disc) as possible, preferably in a musical way and with the added bonus of three-d presentation in the listening space.

In other words, with "high fidelity" to the source content.

therealhoops's mixing desk and little speakers will not do that.

Simples.


 
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