ernie, your unlikely to have a logical conversation with anyone who believes that the worlds natural gas reservrs are located 10-20 meteres below the ground!
Of all the comparasions made about this conflict and others from history the one that gets the least mention, and is my mind the relevant, is the treatment of the Jews in the ghettos of eastern europe during world war 2, perhaps the idea of the oppressed becoming the oppressor is a little to un-comfortable for some of those that bang the drum for Israel.
You're just not taking this arguing on the internet seriously enough Hels 😆 You're stopping us fixing the world's ills!
but seeing as, by your own admission on here, you are now beginning to see where we are coming from with regards to our criticism/condemnation of the Israeli onslaught...i'm glad that the "fog of war" is now lifting from over your eyes Tom
Gonzy, I understand and sympathize with your opinions. Respectfully, I disagree with the extent of the blame you place on Israel. My position is entirely based on my opinion that there needs to be moderate dialogue between the two sides to resolve this.
If you could find it within you to try and build dialogue with Jewish Israeli supporters local to you, then you may actually play a small part in ending this.
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Sometimes it is futile to talk surely STW, if not life, has taught you this
Some people you just cannot reach
I've already explained why I think the Israelis have a seige mentality Junkyard and there are plenty of Palestinian academics who feel that boycotts have only given more ammo to the right wingers within Israel.
If you can come up with a counter to that, other than a picture of Chamberlain - be my guest. I really don't think a ratcheting up the rhetoric, outside of the condemnation of the actions by both sides, is good for the conflict.
Any luck on those maps from 5 years ago?
Still looking Lifer, just been doing some Ikea DIY. Trying to wade through a bugger tonne of articles till I find the original source, I suspect it's Israeli. But many of the positions such as the training facilities look legitimate to my eyes.
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But many of the positions such as the training facilities look legitimate to my eyes.
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Lifer what is the claim re the map [ not been in all the the thread ]
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And nothing else, which I thought strange, given the threshold of evidence he requires from others...
But then they [i]do[/i] look legitimate to his eyes.
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Most of the launches do not seem to be coming from civilian areas though a number do. they seem to [ whilst varying the launch site] seem to stay to openish areas. its not like they can have a wee bit of the park just for rocket launching now is it.
