What are the eminently quotable lines from films of the last 5 years then? Ones that we’ll all know?
That is a good question
I have barely watched any films from the last decade. Cinema seems to have gone to pot, being replaced by superb telly.
@theotherjonv - that sounds very much like our house, with "this aggression will not stand, man" being the default answer to anyone getting shirty.
Its a parental obligation to provide them with these things otherwise they may end up like this 🙂
Much as I enjoy Airplane it is a spoof of early disaster movies and makes far less sense if you have never seen such movies. If you don’t know what it’s sending up, then how can you really appreciate it?
Funny you pick Airplane in particular. I have no idea which films it references, but I rewatched it a couple of years ago and thought it stands very well on its own - loads of silly wordplay and visual gags: the 'drinking problem', the autopilot, don't call me Shirley, etc etc.
I still mutter 'looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines' whenever something stressful happens!
@molgrips cool beans, I'd give Battle Royale a wide berth as well then.
I'd still include Run Lola Run and Fifth Element, possibly Leon if/when the themes are considered okay. They seem to fit the modified brief.
Same for Alien. Starship Troopers too if only to drop the bombshell at the end that they're Nazis.
Cultural references that are meme relevent?
Aliens
Predator
Terminator 2
That should get you going for starters.
And the mic-drop pop culture reference: who's the first (only, maybe?) actor to have been killed by all three of those?
Bill Paxton
Les Edukators, les Bronzés and Jamon Jamon are all 12+ certificate. Now check the other suggestions on this thread. Mallrat, Squirrelking's first suggestion is 16+ and the uncut death race 2000 is X.
Jamon Jamon should be obligatory viewing for all the people posting on the "tweenage daughter" thread. 😉
I actually re watched Termanator 2 after reminding myself about it on this thread, lol!
It's held up really well as an action film, a lot better than all the dross yu get these days, but I suppose it is arguably one of the best action films ever.
The sound track was a stroke of genius too.
I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle.
Bill Paxton
5 House Points to you.
I actually re watched Termanator 2 after reminding myself about it on this thread, lol!
It’s held up really well as an action film, a lot better than all the dross yu get these days, but I suppose it is arguably one of the best action films ever.
I prefer The Terminator to T2.
I prefer Aliens to Alien.
I will of course now go and delete my account, sad that they never made a sequel to Highlander.
Dirty Dancing - "nobody puts baby in the corner"
Jaws (naturally and the shark looks less imposing to today's CGI-experienced 12 yo)
Back to the future “I guess you guys aren't ready for that yet". And a discussion on hoverboard delivery
Blade Runner "Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die."
Too young for Pulp Fiction...burgers or not. BTW we once showed Robocop to a group of younger teens. One did not like it and I would not do it again. It was the throat scene if you are interested.
The interesting cultural exchange is in films set in the future that are now in the past.
Bill Paxton
When I see that name I always think of the 1990 movie Brain Dead which I bought because I heard lots of people raving about the 1992 movie Brain Dead.
Probably not what you're looking for lol.
So what age certification is allowed on this thread? I've been criticised for posting 12+ certificates but there are many 15/16+ rated films and at least one 18+
What's your limit, Molgrips? It's your child. I gave up worrying about age limits when junior got access to the Net. The first thing he got into was Breaking Bad season one which was 18+ at the time.
Denial is probably the best way to handle the Higlander sequels!
Highlander: there should have been only one.
Highlander 2 was a very troubled film for many reasons within and without, not least of which being the country they were filming in going bankrupt. But it's surely one of the top three "shits on the previous movie" outings along with Escape From LA and Alien Cubed. (There's probably a thread to be had in that, too.) I'm still, if you'll pardon the pun, furious about Alien 3.
Blade Runner “Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion
I believe that speech was entirely ad-libbed by Hauer.
I’ve been criticised for posting 12+ certificates
You mentioned their certificates, no one else has. Les Bronzes font du ski particularly, it's a 1980? sequel about a group of middle-aged French folks who go skiing after meeting before on on a beach holiday. I mean it's hardly going to be riveting stuff for a 12 year old English girl is it?... You've been criticised becasue they have no cultural references beyond "Here's some naff 30 year old French toss"
I believe that speech was entirely ad-libbed by Hauer.
AFAIK, he wrote it the night before rather than on the spot.
However, I think Dustin Hoffman ad-libbed "I'm walking here".
Age certificate not important. Only life important.
only read the last page, i too try to introduce my 12 year old to important films.. some classified older than what he is, but with my prior knowledge of the content. Ie Aliens was pretty horrific 30 odd years ago, not so bad now.. the chest burster in alien, almost comedic. It's more enduring sex scenes even if they don't show anything i try to stay away form, so I'm currently waiting on terminator.. just a few more months.
Anyway.. important film with lots of cultural references, Forest Gump.
a few years from now, id suggest American history X as i feel that is a massively important film showing some horrible parts of humanity
So what age certification is allowed on this thread? I’ve been criticised for posting 12+ certificates
I think the criticism is more directed at the overt signalling of your pretentiousness. You were correctly called on it.
And like most people who do this, you are now trying to frame the conversation as being about your highly developed sense of cultural enlightenment vs some narrow minded fools who don't operate on your level. Which we all know is not what this is about.
Come on nickc, admit it, what’s your real problem with my selection ? Everyone else has twigged. It’s becuase they’re cultural icons but French, German and Spanish cultural icons which clearly upsets you and Squirrelking who regularly objects to me linking anything other than English language information.
With all due respect, that's something of a leap.
Foreign language films aren't going to be the first choice of your average 12-year old who hasn't yet watched The Goonies. What are you doing tomorrow, a quick tour of an art gallery of Old Masters followed by an evening at the opera? That's bog all to do with culture (or as you seem perhaps to be implying, race?) but rather all to do with then being a probably monolingual 12-year old.
" your pretentiousness"
Nah, it's just that the films are foreign, and some consider that pretentious, but if you consider knowing anything about things foreign pretentionous think about what that says about you.
Edit: @Cougar the DVDs in my collection of the films I've quoted all have both soundtracks. My original suggestion was to watch them twice, in VO and English.
a few years from now, id suggest American history X as i feel that is a massively important film showing some horrible parts of humanity
Its a fantastic film but contains the only scene that has actually made me feel physically sick. I'm still wincing just thinking about it now. I'd be steering well clear of that until they were a lot older
Bite the kerb....
Nah, it’s just that the films are foreign, and some consider that pretentious
Nobody considers the fact they're foreign to be pretentious at all. Whats pretentious is when some pompous windbag starts repeatedly banging on about them in the most condescending and patronising manner imaginable
I use your contributioons to politics threads as a model, Binners, go buy something a Greggs FFS. 😉
Nah, it’s just that the films are foreign, and some consider that pretentious, but if you consider knowing anything about things foreign pretentionous think about what that says about you.
Nope, i watch a lot of films of which a great many are foreign and more often than not subtitled. I really enjoy the differing perspectives they bring compared to the usual Hollywood fodder.
There are those who read poetry alone because it enriches their lives, and then there are those who read poetry sat in the corner of the pub praying others will notice them. I suspect you are the later.
Nah, it’s just that the films are foreign
I recommended a foreign film and didn't get slagged off. Maybe nobody noticed 🙂
Not reading through the whole of page 2 (or the bickering), but if no-one's mentioned The Incredibles, then...
The Incredibles. Brilliant film for kids and adults. Last time I watched it I had tears all the way through from the memories of watching it with my son.
Nah, it’s just that the films are foreign, and some consider that pretentious, but if you consider knowing anything about things foreign pretentionous think about what that says about you.
You miss the point. Foreign films aren't pretentious, rather reeling off a long list of them as recommended viewing for a 12-year old is.
Edit: @Cougar the DVDs in my collection of the films I’ve quoted all have both soundtracks. My original suggestion was to watch them twice, in VO and English.
... let alone twice over.
Isn't it an accepted truism amongst the pretentious that dubbed films are generally inferior to the original edits?
"and then there are those who read poetry sat in the corner of the pub praying others will notice them. I suspect you are the later."
I'm actually in a band on the stage in a pub and the lyrics I sing are either written by me or are poems by Jacques Prévert.
Jeez, the pathetic insults being dreamed up here, please try harder.
"Isn’t it an accepted truism amongst the pretentious that dubbed films are generally inferior to the original edits?"
The Stallone dub in French is genius, and John Nettles is more cop and less posh. We often try both and vote on whether to watch in VO or dubbed.
Come on nickc, admit it, what’s your real problem with my selection ?
They're not really required viewing for a 12yr old girl catching up on cultural references in the UK with her Dad. That's it really. I'm trying to imagine her nudging her friend in the play-ground and saying something along the lines of "What d'you think about Popeye chasing girls all the time, in that seminal French comedy from the 70's Les Bronzes, pretty naff right?" and wondering what her friends reaction might be.
If you think that folks on this site (of all sites) have a limited selection of historical filmography based on language alone, then you don't really understand folks on here at all.
the lyrics I sing are either written by me or are poems by Jacques Prévert.
The fact you feel the compulsion to tell us this is proving my point brilliantly.
I’m actually in a band on the stage in a pub and the lyrics I sing are either written by me or are poems by Jacques Prévert.
Of course you are. Kind of went without saying really
I don't know what any of those films are like, I haven't seen them. But a French person recommending French films can hardly be considered pretentious can it?
Au contraire mols
What about a bit of Clint? Saying that the list is already looking a bit blokey.
Dear me, can't cope with the reality of someone being a doer and not conforming to your erronous assumptions, Blackflag.
I've got nearly the whole playground circling and taunting, so much for STW being a benevolent, welcoming, helpful place that people go for sympathy and help. Look at yourselves.
I think you're missing what makes the film funny, nickc. Watch Le Père Noël est une Ordure for an insight to the humour of the threatre troupe that made the Bronzés films. They take the Micky out of stereotypes, and yes Popeye is a stereotypical ski instructor to take the Micky out of stereotypical ski instructor behaviour, it's comedy and it's funny in the same way as Margo in the Good Life is funny.
Two are German (I know you've worked in German, Molgrips) and one is Spannish starring penelope Cruz.
I think you’re missing what makes the film funny, nickc
I think you're missing the point that folks might have a different opinion to you about what might interest a 12yr person. I just don't think films that are after all kind of obscure in the UK, and regardless of whether they're funny or not (personally I think they're both cringe) have no cultural touchstones for most folks.
I'm all for folks broadening their horizons and films are a great way to do that, but that's a different thread
Utterly deluded
I’ve got nearly the whole playground circling and taunting, so much for STW being a benevolent, welcoming, helpful place that people go for sympathy and help. Look at yourselves.
STW is a benevolent, welcoming, helpful place.
It also has a limited tolerance for twaddle.
😁
"/movies-for-cultural-education"
Yes we could nominate this for a badly titled thread award if there was one. But most people read more than the title before replying.