Ohhhh that smarts 😯
The worrying thing for everyone else is Stoners bike looked to have horrific chatter on entry and he still won (did'nt stop him WHINING as usual).If they can dial that out it's curtains for the championship.
Lucky boy vicious high side then gets collected.
I dont think Lorenzo is far behind, Stoner had to find something to bleat about, aaarrrggghhhh I cant stand him
I'm glad it's not just my piss that he boils.I suspect that running over the white lines on the apex of every helps the handling much.I'd rather Dani won than George though.
i dont get the Stoner bashing bit. He got the reputation for being a 'moaner' due to commenting on the handling of the Ducati and their attitude of 'we build it, you ride it' . Rossi, Burgess et al dismissed this and contributed to the stoner the moaner. Remember this was the pair that claimed 'give us 15 mins and we'll get it sorted'.
Rossi was the best in his day- Stoner is the next generation. Maybe it's because he's quite modest in his celebrations, rather than the WWF-esque stuff of Lorenzo/Rossi, that he's still considered a moaner?
Great riders can't go on forever and I think Valentino's time has passed and I know he's till extremely talented and will go down as one of the very best, if not the best. I think there's a new generation now and Jorge, Casey and Dani are that generation and it would have included Marco if it wasn't for the tragic loss of his life. Casey doesn't get the recognition he deserves from the media, especially the UK press but I think he's just brilliant. The way he can put a fast lap in when qualifying is just unreal, he goes out, does a lap and then leaves the rest to try match him. He showed how he could ride the Ducati and he mastered what was a very difficult bike to ride - that's his talent. Some of the slow-mo's from Casey's riding are just amazing and anyone who's seen the Red Bull footage is surely in awe about it. Come on Casey I say!
In the dark of night when the wind is howling little Casey is curled up in his bed, in his head all he can hear is the whispering voice of a higher being. It says " you know the Italian is better than you dont you Casey"
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I'll add "and you're not even the best Australian ever either"
You have to agree he is a very talented rider and very good at setting fast laps on his own but he seems very uncomfortable when anyone is near him be it slipstreaming him in qualifing or getting close up when racing,not that that has happened recently.
The fun off bike character of Rossi/Marco/Jorge/Colin/Nicky/JT/Loris is part of what made motogp better than the squeeky clean dullard drivers in F1. He just needs to lighten up a bit in his personality and maybe people would support him more.
Maybe he needs to do a humerous team video...
Rorschach that is a very interesting point, would you say Wayne or Mick or even go wider Gobert is/was one of the most talented riders ever just a total loon, how good could Bayliss of been in Motogp if he had been given a ride or wanted to do it. All four I have mentioned were great characters and fabulous racers, Stoner isn't either.
I don't get the Stoner knocking either. It usually seems to be from obsessive blinkered Rossi fans.
Stoner is not alone in being totally focussed. Many of the 'great' riders have been pretty humourless when it's come to their racing - Doohan, Roberts.
Rossi has been an exception in the modern era as being fun and still winning. Most of the riders who are considered characters have never been in contention for the championship.
Thanks for the you tube vid Muke! Very good - i love Jorge being the janitor LOL! 😆
Superb video there Muke.
It usually seems to be from obsessive blinkered Rossi fans.
That'll be me, but he is great.
Yamaha did a 50th anniversary one as well
Luckiest rider this weekend was Josh Wainright who came off and had his head run over by the rider behind him in the Superstock 600 race at BSB today
Yow! That was a lucky escape 😯
John Kirkham going into the airfence over Clay Hill in the superbike race was pretty harsh aswell.....
My contempt for Stoner is nothing to do with being a Rossi fan boi 🙂
He is a flat out cry baby who seems to get no real pleasure from racing. The likes of Melandri, Rossi, Hayden, Edwards seem to genuinley love bikes of all shapes and kinds and mess about on them in there spare time.
I cant imagine Stoner going to the IOM for instance (knowing my luck he has been) or entering a local trial.
Oh and he is a big boring arse 🙂
My contempt for Stoner is nothing to do with being a Rossi fan boiHe is a flat out cry baby who seems to get no real pleasure from racing. The likes of Melandri, Rossi, Hayden, Edwards seem to genuinley love bikes of all shapes and kinds and mess about on them in there spare time.
I cant imagine Stoner going to the IOM for instance (knowing my luck he has been) or entering a local trial.
Oh and he is a big boring arse
Did you know he started racing at a low level in BEMSEE in UK racing at Brands, Snett etc...
Back in those days he was apparently a far more jovial lad... However when you're on a £10,000,000 contract from Honda, you do have to be a little bit serious about his job.
Yes and Chas Davies used to own him.
They are all serious about their job he isnt serious he is dull dull dull.
John Kirkham going into the airfence over Clay Hill in the superbike race was pretty harsh aswell.....
That was one of the scariest crashes I've seen (though I've not watched the Wainwright one). I was sure he wasn't going to get up from it and thought he'd just go under the fence following the bike in. The fact he was being interviewed later the same day about it is mind blowing. One very lucky fella.
I thought Melandri was going to be in a bad way after his massive highside and getting his foot stuck under the bike at Imola as well.
Pigface - MemberYes and Chas Davies used to own him.
Where did you hear that? Misinformed I'm afraid.
Take the 2001, Casey came 2nd overall in the British 125cc Championships.
He was only 3 points behind Leon Camier despite completing only 7 of the 13 rounds as he was also competing in the Spanish 125cc Championship in which he also came 2nd overall plus he did a couple of GP wildcard races (including a 12th in Aus)!
Casey won every British 125cc race he turned up for that year and Chaz came 8th overall (Chaz was also competing in the Spanish Championship).
This was Casey's 2nd season of road racing and he was 2nd in 2 National Championships having not completed all the rounds of either.
In his first year of road racing in 2000, he won the Aprilia Superteen Challenge with Chaz the runner up.
slight hijack - has this been done?
Poetic license or the Edinburgh defence, up to you 😆
I am not sure Camier did every round that year, the package boring Casey was on was pretty good. If Chaz hadnt grown so much then I relly believe he would be there or there abouts.
Not doubting Stoner is very good on a bike he is just not that good 8)
Its all personal opinion anyway 😀
Correct Ninja... i recall seeing Stoner win by MILES on the little bikes the only time i saw him at BEMSEE, i was generally at New Era spannering for a mate that year.
Not doubting Stoner is very good on a bike he is just not that good
Nah, seriously, did you just write that ?
The bloke who's a double world champion on 2 bikes and is now the preferred rider for the biggest team in motorbikes on the planet ?
Honestly... you wrote that ?
[url= http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/08052012/58/rossi-m-retiring.html ]Rossi denies retirement rumours[/url]
Edit : Forgot to mention Paul Bird thinking of replacing James Ellison with Shakey Byrne for Le Mans GP
My mate raced against stoner at three sisters track near wigan.
Yeah I just wrote that and if you like I will write it again 😆
There are plenty of 2 time world champions about 😉
I raced against Casey Stoner and so did my wife!* He's not that great, I beat him every time.
*This may not be completely true. 😆
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The fact he was being interviewed later the same day about it is mind blowing. One very lucky fella.
Testament to how good those airfences are. Maybe they should be on every corner of every track in motorsport..... 💡
Forgot to mention Paul Bird thinking of replacing James Ellison with Shakey Byrne for Le Mans GP
Dear god NO!! 😯 Shakey is far better off in BSB, he will be merely a back runner on that bike in GP.
Casey Stoner
Yes a massive salary from a works Honda contract will turn people in to corporate robots, maybe thats why Rossi had to leave Honda? Too big a personality for a corporation.....
Although Stoner was still a boring little **** on a Duke aswell- just as well he more than makes up for his lack of personality when he's ON the bike 😆
Not doubting Stoner is very good on a bike he is just not that good
Brilliant, absolutely brilliant forumeering. I doff my cap to you. Pish- but brilliant. 😀
or even go wider Gobert is/was one of the most talented riders ever just a total loon
Blast from the past
Now there was a top talent, one of the most exciting and skilled riders I have ever seen, but as you say, a total loon.
Off to youtube to watch Gobert videos now.
Lobby d Its an honour to be doffed 😀
Antony Gobert - the Go Show - a classic example of why electronic aids should be removed from wsb. Also a sad waste of a great talent.
Muke - where did you hear that about Ellison? Surely he's as good as Shakey (and he's a Northerner)
Muke - where did you hear that about Ellison? Surely he's as good as Shakey (and he's a Northerner)
was announced tuesday, only for the next motogp round, to get some more feedback on the bike and in Paul Birds words to get Ellison to '"pull his finger out"
Shakey has MotoGP experience (the Aprilla that kept trying to kill him, I think it was the 'cube' or RS3?) so would be a pretty good choice for further feedback/to see if Ellison is getting the most out of the package.
As for Stoner, he's bloody quick, but I don't think he gets the idea of entertainment/showmanship like Rossi does, back in the 500s you always knew Rossi would overtake with a couple of laps to go, then pull 4-5 seconds in those two laps, which made the race exciting, even if you knew the eventual outcome, there was more of an element of doubt.
Stoner goes out of the blocks, hard, and it seems like the only rider that gets into his head/can phase him is Rossi (when he's close), which turns the race into a flat out chase rather than a more cat and mouse affair.
Ellison has been struggling with massive chatter and is one of only two riders yet to score a point.
Speaking on British Eurosport's coverage of Monday's Oulton Park BSB round, Bird revealed that Byrne could take Ellison's place at Le Mans and therefore make his first MotoGP appearance since 2005.
"It's something I have been milling over for a couple of meetings," said Bird. "James seems to be lacking a bit of confidence and is complaining about massive chatter with the bike."Obviously Shakey has ridden at Le Mans a couple of times and maybe we will let him have a run out on the bike and rest James for a meeting.
"That way we can have another view of what the bike is like, to see if we do have a severe chatter problem, but, you known, Casey Stoner has severe chatter problems and still wins the race, so we will have a look...
"I've asked James if he wants to run at Le Mans but I think we would get another view of what the bike is like. It's our first [MotoGP] season so maybe it's time for a management decision."
Also Chris Vermeulen will stand in for Colin Edwards for the Forward Racing Squad in the forthcoming French Grand Prix at Le Mans.
Oooooh lets hope for some rain as the John Boy Walton lookalikey goes well in the wet.
Do you think Shakey will outperform Ellison? If it rains, they want to stick Chris Walker on the bike, or Michael Rutter .........
Do you think Shakey will outperform Ellison?
I have no idea, but he's a good* benchmark.
*edit, Known.
As you were...
Paul Bird Motorsport has played down comments that Shane Byrne will replace James Ellison for the upcoming MotoGP races by confirming there will be no change in the team for the French Grand Prix.
Paul Bird had intimated that he would put Byrne on the bike at Le Mans in order to get a second opinion on the chatter issues that have blighted Ellison's return to the two-wheel top flight so far this season.
However, while PBM hasn't dismissed the idea of getting Byrne, or Stuart Easton, on the bike at some stage this season, Ellison will definitely be on the Aprilia CRT at Le Mans and probably Catalunya.
"It was unfortunate that James didn't finish the race in Estoril but he proved what the machine was capable of in Jerez,” confirmed technical director Phil Borley.
“This is a long-term project and we have to look at all options available to us in achieving our goals, which both the team and James understand. Our concentration is now on getting the technical help we need and to make more progress at Le Mans and Catalunya."
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Danny on Pole and the Tech 3 team better the factory 😀 Rossi getting better and Bradl having a mare.
Ellison did ok.
Good race tomorrow 🙂
Interesting top 10 in WET warm up this morning...
1. Cal Crutchlow GBR Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1) 1m 46.095s
2. Casey Stoner AUS Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 46.187s
3. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 46.423s
4. Valentino Rossi ITA Ducati Team (GP12) 1m 46.538s
5. Nicky Hayden USA Ducati Team (GP12) 1m 46.814s
6. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Yamaha Factory Racing (YZR-M1) 1m 46.822s
7. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1) 1m 47.156s
8. Hector Barbera ESP Pramac Racing (GP12) 1m 47.311s
9. Karel Abraham CZE Cardion AB Motoracing (GP12) 1m 47.869s
10. Ben Spies USA Yamaha Factory Racing (YZR-M1) 1m 47.890s
Sad to hear that rider Mark Buckley has died following an accident in the Superstock race at the Relentless International North West 200 in Northern Ireland. 🙁
Top result for Redding 😀
Lorenzo was on it today, great to see Rossi a worthy second and little Casey whinge whinge moan my bike wouldnt do this and my bike wouldnt do that whinge whinge moan moan come third 😉
Great for Ellison and never seen anything like what happened to RDP at that level, club races maybe 😯
Ben Spies to get the bullet by season halfway?
