Took my passat for MOT earlier this week. Failed on rear pads "down to metal" poo. So been out bought pads and a windback tool. Takes both sides out 6/7mm a side. We are umamused. Waste of cash and a waste of time I've got to drive to the retest.
Notify DofT! Nothing worse for the industry than rip off garages!
What are you talking about?
You took your car with no brake pads to an MOT, it failed, and you are upset that you have to replace your brake pads?
Are you sure you should be allowed to drive a car?
continuity - Member
What are you talking about?You took your car with no brake pads to an MOT, it failed, and you are upset that you have to replace your brake pads?
Are you sure you should be allowed to drive a car?
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You want to turn the stick over.
What are you talking about?You took your car with no brake pads to an MOT, it failed, and you are upset that you have to replace your brake pads?
Are you sure you should be allowed to drive a car?
Mores the point - What are you talking about?
To the OP - take the old pads in with you and complain like ****.
What are you talking about?
I agree. What are you talking about?
To the OP, stop confusing continuity with your words. You know it gives him the vapours.
Did continuity read the whole post?
I'm sure he read [i]a[/i] post. Just not the OP's in this thread, perhaps.
As I understand.
The OP had his car MOT'd.
It failed due to pads being shot (apparently)
OP buys new pads with the aim of replacing himself.
OP removed said "shot" pads to find they have 6-7mm of material remaining.
OP is less than impressed with the MOT bods.
I'm with continuity on this one. There's no place for custard on a plate of cold chicken.
I don't think they should have failed the car here - I assume it passed the roller road brake test?
Was the garage part of a chain?
Normal VOSA advice is to 'pass and advise'.
I'd appeal the fail.
Hth
Marko
Das is correct. So I've shelled out for a decent tool and pads for zip. I've put them in anyway so I can show him and say where the nearest specsavers is. Just annoying I've got to go back take time off work etc for FA
It's an mot only place. No work undertaken purely testing. So no reasons for him to fail apart from cocking up.
Save them for next time. You'll need new pads at some stage.
Report. Its not kwikfit?
Why would a tester risk his test/job?
Disgusting if true as others must be blatantly ripped off. Which hes knowingly (stealing) from people who have to trust him.
If it wasnt bear metal but a few mms subjective thrn I'd let it slide.
They're already in so I can show him the virtually unworn ones. Otherwise they could question if done any work and that they weren't worn
On the fail it says under 1.5mm. He said to me down to the metal on inner side of both rears.
It's a local chain. Nothing to gain from failing it. Pos a genuine mistake but annoying I've spent £60 and need another hr off work.
I reckon he's either made a mistake, or thought you were a whopper and thought he could rip you off.
continuity - Member
What are you talking about?You took your car with no brake pads to an MOT, it failed, and you are upset that you have to replace your brake pads?
Are you sure you should be allowed to drive a car?
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If you report they'd need evidence themselves not on the word of one person - true?
So they'd probably inspect/cold call in to check work.
So you shouldnt worry about someone losing their testers licence on a one off.
If hes upto something then he should be investigated. Hes cost you £60 extra for a start.
Was continuity the MOT tester???
I only ever have my cars MOT tested by my local Council. They cannot do any work on a failed car, so there is no incentive to fail them on something trivial to earn some cash. They are always scrupulous in their testing. See if you have a council fleet depot that does testing near you.
I was not familiar with this member continuity before this thread, but I await his future contributions with great anticipation.
The "issue" is that if they cant see the pads they will fail it.
A lot of cars now you cant see the pads without removing the wheel - they aren't allowed to anymore.
Same as they any remove any covers underneath, etc.
Had a car of mine fail a few years ago and had a full on row over it - I'd had the rear wheels off an hour before to check it all over so I knew there was 5+mm on them.
Continuity got Anything for sale?
The "issue" is that if they cant see the pads they will fail it.
Not true !
So if they can't see the pads how can they either know that they are down to the metal or that you've replaced them?
How can they ever pass a car they can't see the pads on?
The "issue" is that if they cant see the pads they will fail it.
What about shoes inside drums?
trail_rat - Member
The "issue" is that if they cant see the pads they will fail it.Not true !
100% True - They are "supposed" to pass and advise - all of the testers I know will fail rather than risk it in case.
wanmankylung - Member
The "issue" is that if they cant see the pads they will fail it.
What about shoes inside drums?
Drums have indicators on the rear along with the brake test results.
I was not familiar with this member continuity before this thread
I miss a lot of names, but the gentlemen in question has already alerted my spidy senses to being a troublesome sort.
If only we had someone to sniff such people out within seconds.
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Hammyuk - so if inability to see pads is an automatic fail how do cars like this ever pass?
As I said its "supposed" to be a "pass with advisory"
In reality the tester won't pass it just in case.
Remember very few are not in a garage - so repairs are done.
However the ones I know will fail it in case it's a DoT car.
That's their license gone.
Have you checked the front pads?! Might have got the wrong end 🙂
I don't believe you, sorry, otherwise every car would be having new pads every year.
spooky_b329 - MemberHave you checked the front pads?! Might have got the wrong end
That seems like the most sensible comment in the thread.
mcmoonter - MemberI only ever have my cars MOT tested by my local Council. They cannot do any work on a failed car, so there is no incentive to fail them on something trivial to earn some cash. They are always scrupulous in their testing. See if you have a council fleet depot that does testing near you.
Same reason I used to take my motorbike to a place that doesn't do bikes. It could be annoying if there was a minor quick fix issue though
Now I have a trustworthy garage. It is awesome.
Where is this in the guidance notes ? I dont see anything saying if you cant see it fail it....brakes or otherwise.
Ive never had a car rejected for this , including ones where you cant see the inner pad , or where the drums do not have indicators....
I miss a lot of names, but the gentlemen in question has already alerted my spidy senses to being a troublesome sort.
🙂 I hope he starts posting in the chat forum more, there is sport to be had I think.
Laugh all you want, but I wouldn't have mistaken you if you hadn't written it in johnny age five prose.
Took my passat for MOT earlier this week. Failed on rear pads "down to metal" poo. So been out bought pads and a windback tool. Takes both sides out 6/7mm a side. We are umamused. Waste of cash and a waste of time I've got to drive to the retest.
I took my passat to have an MOT earlier this week. It failed as the rear pads were "down to the metal", which is annoying. I bought a pair of pads and a windback tool. [i]I then removed the old pads and discovered that they have 6-7mm of remaining wear on both sides[/i].
That's much clearer. Almost as if we're speaking english.
The ambiguity in your original post makes it sound like the "windback tool" "takes the pads out 6-7mm a side". I don't know why. Probably because the exact wording is "bought pads and a windback tool. Takes both sides out 6/7mm a side".
I blame all poor grammar on my iphone. Obviously should be 'Taken'.
All most imposible to fail pads unless you can see they are metal to metal and even then you could be asked how you measured them as we testers have no approved tool to check them with. Advise pads all day long and inner ones you can hardly ever tell how low they are so advise them. We are always told pass and advise if you are not sure but there is a lot going on about what can and cannot be advised in the future. Comp 2 very soon if it works "??????? and stuff may change in that. Read the tester manual then read the VOSA mot blog and see how the manual may say some thing and the blog tells you some thing else manual not been changed as it cost £1000s to change one word.Screens and batterys are good ones.
Continuity will you take an offer?
Laugh all you want, but I wouldn't have mistaken you if you hadn't written it in johnny age five prose.
Nobody would be taking the piss out of you if you hadn't responded in the style of a surly teenager who was in such a rush to mock that they failed to understand what everyone else evidently did 😀
What are you talking about?You took your car with no brake pads to an MOT, it failed, and you are upset that you have to replace your brake pads?
Are you sure you should be allowed to drive a car?
Are you sure you should be allowed unsupervised access to the Internet?
Well I read the OP's post just fine and understood it as it was intended, have seen much worse posts on here.
Regards checking brakes the MOT testers manual states 'A visual and physical check must be carried out on all mechanical components that are visible and accessible.' bearing in mind that they are not allowed to remove parts to make them visible, I nearly always get a advisory mentioning the engine undertray restricts inspection.
[url= http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_350.htm ]MOT brake inspection[/url]
Yep i know that bit, im looking for the bit that says " if its not visible fail it"
If you can't understand and need a translation written by Prince Charles to understand the O.P?
You're either a toff, an idiot or a troll.
Don't ever travel! as some of the people in other countries don't speak a word of English...
trail_rat - Member
Yep i know that bit, im looking for the bit that says " if its not visible fail it"
You won't find it.
As I said the guidelines say to "pass with an advisory" - in reality every tester I know (5 car, 2 bike) will fail it "just in case".
For them the risk of passing it and there being a fault is not worth the chance of losing their license.
The 1.5mm for pads/linings is classic - on both cars I own there is no way of checking WITHOUT removing the wheel - which the tester is no longer allowed to do.
The tester then has a choice to give an advisory OR fail depending on his judgement.
Some will ask permission to remove the wheel to check if you argue it at the time (as I did on a previous car having had the wheels off an hour before the test to check the brakes).
