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I went to a pub today & asked for 570ml of IPA.
Barman looked perplexed.


 
Posted : 25/08/2022 8:25 pm
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Yeah cos he’s used to serving in 568ml measures.


 
Posted : 25/08/2022 8:39 pm
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There is one good thing about that survey, and its that for the questions that only offer an affirmative or slightly affirmative nod towards supporting imperial measurements, you can ignore the radio buttons and just make a comment, and it doesn't prevent you from proceeding to the next page 🙂


 
Posted : 25/08/2022 8:40 pm
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The crazy thing is I am pushing 50 and have no idea what mile is.


 
Posted : 25/08/2022 8:45 pm
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It is as far as you are likely to walk in about 20 minutes.

Or 4 laps of the average athletic track.


 
Posted : 25/08/2022 8:58 pm
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I get the conversations around nationalising utilities/transport, but with these clowns in power I struggle to see how it wouldn't be an utter shitshow.

Happy to be told I'm wrong, but it kinda fills me with dread to consider the reality.


 
Posted : 25/08/2022 9:19 pm
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Or 4 laps of the average athletic track.

Errmm Four. And a Quarter. And a bit.


 
Posted : 25/08/2022 9:22 pm
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I went to a pub today & asked for 570ml of IPA.
Barman looked perplexed.

I bought some 2x2 and 2x4 timber yesterday and the bloke in the builders merchant knew exactly what I meant


 
Posted : 25/08/2022 9:30 pm
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And the bile spouted on this and the politics threads make me wonder if the death of STW would be a boost to nicer vibes on the world after all.

We have food banks.
In the UK, in 2022.

It's not 'bile'.
It's hatred.

Hatred against every single Tory voter.
Genuinely bitter, angry, informed hatred against every person who has enabled this.

Get used to it.
Accept responsibility for your actions and be prepared for the consequences.


 
Posted : 25/08/2022 9:48 pm
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"I bought some 2×2 and 2×4 timber yesterday and the bloke in the builders merchant knew exactly what I meant"

I think the trade refer tto them now as a Sunack or a Truss? One's probably too flimsy and lightweight for the job.

The other seems almost the same from most angles, but appears to be much thicker.


 
Posted : 25/08/2022 9:56 pm
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For some reason completing that survey made me feel the more depressed regarding the state of our political class than any of the recent (numerous) fails and embarrassments.


 
Posted : 25/08/2022 10:02 pm
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How many Johnsons are there in a Mogg?


 
Posted : 25/08/2022 10:04 pm
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That's a horrible image that will take a lot of effort to shift from my brain, thanks 🤢🤢🤮


 
Posted : 25/08/2022 10:07 pm
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I get the conversations around nationalising utilities/transport, but with these clowns in power I struggle to see how it wouldn’t be an utter shitshow.

It's already an utter shit-show, the difference is that now rich people are making fat profits off it at the same time.


 
Posted : 25/08/2022 10:08 pm
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It is not overly difficult to people who are numerically minded but if you were coming up with a system from scratch would you use one that uses 3, 12, 16, 20 and so on or one that uses 10, 100, 1000?

That is an interesting question. I think I’d opt for base 12 if I were to choose from scratch.

One (small) reason for choosing imperial might be that at least most people can spell pints 😉😂

I know spelling is so passé 😂


 
Posted : 25/08/2022 10:15 pm
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Hatred against every single Tory voter.

Really? Why do you hate more than 10 million people?

And why is your hatred so great that it has to spill onto a thread discussing imperial v metric measurements?


 
Posted : 25/08/2022 11:11 pm
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In your haste to have a confrontation, did you skip the rest of his post where he told you why?


 
Posted : 25/08/2022 11:26 pm
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your haste to have a confrontation

Oh the ironing.

It isn't so much the reason for hating "every single" Tory voter which intrigues but the whole concept of hating people that you don't even know.

It sounds like bigotry to me - I insist on at least knowing someone before I feel that I can hate them.

And presumably it throws up all sorts of problems - obviously the hater hasn't got any friends who vote Tory but what about work colleagues and family members? Approximately a third of the electorate are Tory voters so it must be exceptionally hard to avoid them.

It must make for very unhappy circumstances.


 
Posted : 25/08/2022 11:37 pm
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Or 4 laps of the average athletic track.

Errmm Four. And a Quarter. And a bit.

Errmm: a standard outdoor track is 400m around the inner lane. 4*400~1600m. A mile is ~1609m


 
Posted : 26/08/2022 12:01 am
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Errmm: a standard outdoor track is 400m around the inner lane. 4*400~1600m. A mile is ~1609m

Untrue, are you hugging the inner out outer line of the inner lane? how wide is the white line?

This is why it gets complicated... when your are designing machinery etc. these seemingly 'big tollerences' for runners or whatever, all of a sudden become critical points of failiure.


 
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Untrue, are you hugging the inner out outer line of the inner lane? how wide is the line?

This is why it gets complicated… when your are designing machinery etc. these seemingly ‘big tollerences’ for runners or whatever, all of a sudden become critical points of failiure.

Untrue? Which part is untrue?

Someone said they didn’t know what a mile was. Someone else said it is approximately 4 laps of an average track. To my mind, that is a reasonable assertion. If, you know how far a mile is more accurately than that, then you know well enough what a mile is.


 
Posted : 26/08/2022 12:16 am
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all of a sudden become critical points of failiure.

In that case my first suggestion - it is as far as you are likely to walk in about 20 minutes is even less likely to stand up to scrutiny.

It is probably best if A_A remains clueless as to what a mile represents.


 
Posted : 26/08/2022 12:21 am
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a reasonable assertion

Does not cut it when you are designing and building things.

If you are a jogger, or a velo cyclist, or arguing how much beer you should have in a large glass, it's not so important, insignificant, almost.


 
Posted : 26/08/2022 12:28 am
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Does not cut it when you are designing and building.

Fair comment, but in my defence anagallis_arvensis forgot to mention that he was designing a building.


 
Posted : 26/08/2022 12:33 am
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That is an interesting question. I think I’d opt for base 12 if I were to choose from scratch

Base 12 makes a lot more sense than base 10. OK, not if you are used to base 10 when anything else will be confusing, but if you were starting g from scratch with nothing else to unlearn.
And we do use it in daily life anyway, measuring time for example, the French did try to decimalise that once but it never caught on. Or any time you refer to a dozen or half a dozen things.
Same reason a circle is 360 degrees rather than being divided into 100 degrees, we all cope with that perfectly well


 
Posted : 26/08/2022 12:39 am
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And so it would logicaly follow, to avoid confusion, to use world-wide recognised systems of measurement.

If only such a thing already existed.


 
Posted : 26/08/2022 12:39 am
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Any fellow asking Jacob Rees Mogg will surely understand that a mile is eight furlongs, thus making it far easier to work out for the great British worker.


 
Posted : 26/08/2022 1:09 am
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Same reason a circle is 360 degrees rather than being divided into 100 degrees, we all cope with that perfectly well

Radians are preferable surely? 😀


 
Posted : 26/08/2022 1:11 am
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Radians are preferable surely? 😀

No, they are a bit complex


 
Posted : 26/08/2022 1:14 am
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No, they are a bit complex

Espesially the finishing moves, if you want a fatality.


 
Posted : 26/08/2022 1:24 am
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The Imperial system has been around in various forms for a thousand + years.

Metric on the other hand is no more than 200y old. Relatively unproven in comparison.

Trust Imperial - it's the future!


 
Posted : 26/08/2022 3:14 am
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Execute order 66!


 
Posted : 26/08/2022 3:34 am
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maybe Emperor Truss will start an aggressive expansionist policy to restore the empire. I can't wait to see her gallantly stood on the brow of the ferry to Ryde, first to storm the beaches of the Isle of Wight.


 
Posted : 26/08/2022 5:33 am
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Is my energy bill cheaper in imperial?


 
Posted : 26/08/2022 8:38 am
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The Imperial system has been around in various forms for a thousand + years.

Is that Roman? French? UK? US measures?


 
Posted : 26/08/2022 8:43 am
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Why can’t the boomers just stop pissing about

Most of those "pissing about" were born after 1964 and are most categorically NOT Boomers, they are Generation X.


 
Posted : 26/08/2022 8:51 am
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Metric on the other hand is no more than 200y old.

Correct-ish - 1795 actually, as the first real statement and 1799 as practical implementations.

Decimal of course has been around way longer, which is the real benefit. The actual values are relatively unimportant, the original metre was first defined in 1793 as a fraction (1/10000000) of the distance from the North pole to the equator (passing through Paris, seeing as the French started it),  but then they created a bar of that length and then said 'right, that's it' = the kilogram was then defined as the weight of a 0.1x0.1x0.1 cube of pure water and another artefact created for that.

But if the original definers had settled on a pound and a yard but then said a tonne is 1000 pounds, and an oz is 0.1lb and a mile is 1000 yards...... (and even better, called them kiloyards and decipounds) then we'd probably still have them. The argument is not really with pounds and yards, just the daft multiples between them.


 
Posted : 26/08/2022 9:13 am
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Radians are preferable surely?

Theoretically, maybe, but practically they're pi in the sky.


 
Posted : 26/08/2022 9:26 am
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Haha, jolly good.


 
Posted : 26/08/2022 9:28 am
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the kilogram was then defined as the weight…

the kilogram is a measure of mass


 
Posted : 26/08/2022 9:36 am
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the kilogram was then defined as the weight?…

the kilogram is a measure of mass

These statements are not contradictory.

Anyway, what's so great about base 10? We don't use it for time.(Unless someone is going to get smartarse about nano seconds etc.)


 
Posted : 26/08/2022 9:39 am
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Base 12 and 16 make a lot more sense that 10. 14 on the other hand.......


 
Posted : 26/08/2022 9:50 am
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These statements are not contradictory.

You cannot define “the kilogram … as the weight of a 0.1×0.1×0.1 cube of pure water”


 
Posted : 26/08/2022 9:51 am
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Base 12 and 16 make a lot more sense that 10. 14 on the other hand…….

Hexadecimal is as easy as abc


 
Posted : 26/08/2022 10:07 am
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yes, correctly stated should be mass.


 
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