[Closed] More Tory Nastiness...

Actually didn,t vote for either so goes to show how on the balls you are.. rolls you know what.

Right.
Let me get this right. Because I disagree with some juvenile tory, who says I need to work more than the 60+ hours a week I already do, while they've never had a job...
That makes me a socialist, left wing, guardian reading, window licker.
Sorry, your not a troll,
Your an idiot

Fire up the Banhammer

I wonder which banned big hitter Gorehound is? - can he be outed?

Well, bizarrely he has been with us since May 2010, although I've not noticed before. I tend not to read the more balanced posts though which may be why.

Yeah, ban everyone! 'Cos bans work.

I reckon its TJ after one too many bans he's flipped!!

davidjones post reported 😉

Gorehound is Michael Gove and I claim my £5.

Seriously fella, are you for real? Really real?

Oh and please don't ban him. He is doing a *[b][i]fantastic[/b][/i]* bit of PR for the Tories. Has Dave got your number?

Lol @ hamish. Executed nicely

You lot are a real scream. You call anyone who doesn't agree with you'r left wing tripe a troll or an idiot and then try to get them banned when they retaliate to your troll name calling. As for being juvenile look at yourselves.

Gorehound - Member
As for ranting drivel take a look at the tripe you type in defense of the labour government who took a booming economy and left us bankrupt.

yep, when we had natioanised steel industry, car truck and bus, railways, and lots more, none haveing to pay massive dividends to shareholders and bankers.all spold of for pennies to thatchers mates.

Now we have bailed out bust banks, no train ,bus, car or truck industries,owned by us the state and the highest fare for trains in europe.
We are also seeing the police and NHS dismantled by somebody who hasnt read the manual of how it was all created, but si smashing it apart with the aid of accountants, who couldnt use an abacus if one fell into their pram.

when they retaliate

Is that what you did ?

I get the impression most people think that you steamed into this thread throwing insults with obvious relish.

Still at least it's in keeping with the thread's title of "More Tory Nastiness". So no one can really accuse you of going off topic.

Are you refering to the nationalised industries that brought the country to it's knees. British leyland for instance?

BL, created a lot of jobs for workers and produced a lot of exports, now all sadly lost to imports.

now all sadly lost to imports.

Because they spent more time on strike than they did working and what they did produce on the rare occasions they did do any work was at best second rate and at worst total sh173 that fell apart or rotted away due to poor workmanship.

and what they did produce on the rare occasions they did do any work was at best second rate and at worst total sh173 that fell apart or rotted away due to poor workmanship.

bit like the present gobernments policies.

Because [s]they spent more time on strike than they did working[/s] industrial relations were at an all time low on both sides and what they did produce [s]on the rare occasions they did do any work was at best second rate and at worst total sh173 that fell apart or rotted away due to poor workmanship[/s] suffered through complacency and lack of investment in new technology.

FIFY.

Gorehound, do you fully believe that the current cabinet are the best people to take us forward? A bunch of clowns, none of whom have had a real job and many who (without daddy's friends) would have had a job at all. I'm not saying that the opposition are any better but you are very passionate in your defence of the Tory party. Do you really believe in them so unconditionally?

 

So labours policies were better were they?

No, but they didn't tell us to be more like south korea.

British Leyland is a really bad example of a nationalised company. As far as I'm aware BL was never 100% nationalised. It was part-nationalised and only for about 10 years, most of that time under Tory governments. And the reason for the part-nationalisation were simular to the reasons for the nationalisation of Northern Rock, ie, the private sector had totally screwed up and the government had to step in and deal with a crises.

all this stuff is academic anyway, 'cos it's a well known fact that no-one likes a tory..

They didn't tell us anything while they wrecked the country. Remember the FC sell off? Labour started selling FC land through the back door in a cynical attempt to balance the books after their attempt to nationalise the banks by trying to bust them out failed.

No, but they didn't tell us to be more like [s]south[/s] North Korea

I think total suppression of the working class would give gorehound a certain amount of satisfaction.

#edit - not to mention a little boner...

.....after their attempt to nationalise the banks by trying to bust them out failed.

I'm seriously impressed by that. Your ability to come out with complete drivel is quite frankly staggering.
I couldn't come close to that no matter how hard I tried.

you vote for fools that deregulate the banks

Labour ... attempt to nationalise the banks by trying to bust them out failed.

So Labour deregulated the banks in order to make them go bust?

Right... Hardly an argument for the free market is it?

EDIT: So recent Labour governments [i]were[/i] socialist. It was all a cunning plan!

I find that amusing coming from someone who spouts dogmatic socialist drivel as a habit.

Out of interest Gorehound what do you do for a job?

Out of interest Gorehound what do you do for a job?

Public relations consultant for the conservative party,pays minimum wage, and no holidays,or sick pay.

I make chipboard panels in a crappy factory. Before that I was a labourer on building sites. My trade was forestry before the last labour government totally destroyed the forestry industry along with the rest of rural britain, but you townies won't give a toss about that.

Out of interest Gorehound what do you do for a job?

I suspect that he works for the Labour Party and is on a mission to make the Tories look like complete idiots.

No project, I don't think he works for the Tory Party - give them some credit ffs.

Wrong again Ernie, but that's nowt new is it.

Assuming that the BBC is accurately reporting what these people have written, then the comments suggest that this is probably not a book (Britannia Unchained) that is worth pre-ordering off Amazon. 😉 The chosen quotes seem more sensationalist and silly, than informed analysis of what the authors claim to be the lessons to be learned from more dynamic economies in the real world.

At the same time, this sort of nonsense illustrated again how difficult it is to have rational economic debate in this country (by this I mean not on STW! But generally).

We have a confused economic situation right now that no one seems close to solving. At its heart are conflicting themes coming from the labour market (slightly positive) and the output data (silly gloomy, in fact increasingly so). The real question IMO is how can this be the case? The positive argument proposed by some is that the labour market is giving a more accurate reflection than the output data and that we are thought the worst. Lets hope that this is the case but I am not so sure. The alternative argument is that if the labour market is improving but output is still falling then questions have to be raised about UK productivity. But the answers are unlikely to include the more rabid quotes attributed to the book's authors.

Still it would be nice to have sensible debate in the press about how to tackle problems on both the demand and supply side of the economy, but it would be silly to hold one's breadth. The oddity it that the only front bench politician who is articulating any form of supply side policies is Ed Balls who made some sensible comments after the last GDP data revisions. Interesting that these comments came from a left-of-centre broadly Keynesian economist/politician rather than a Tory or Lib Dem MP.

My trade was forestry before the last labour government totally destroyed the forestry industry along with the rest of rural britain, but you townies won't give a toss about that.

are rural Britain and forestry destroyed..?

Trees grow and get cut down and are remanufactured into new products, just how can the labour governmnet be responsible for trees not growing.I think if you look round your factory there will be a lot more workers employed to help you make chip board.

Thats unless labour has killed them all off as well.

I make chipboard panels in a crappy factory. Before that I was a labourer on building sites. My trade was forestry before the last labour government totally destroyed the forestry industry along with the rest of rural britain, but you townies won't give a toss about that.

Great. A Sun "reader".