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Remember remember the left wings abject failire to make electoral progress is ALWAYS someone else's fault most especially the "right wing press"
LK wanted a scoop and she got one. Corbyn's reschuffle was a shambkes from start to finish. News reporters gold all of it. Labour is now full steam ahead to divert attention away from its own failires, at least theyve been oaying some attention to the SNP's tactics.
LK --no rottweiler, piranha maybe--check out the teeth--but i agree with grum, she is unashamedly right wing, and her bias is not even remotely subtle....james harding will reward her....
[quote=grum ]Wow some people are really dim in terms of detecting sarcasm aren't they.
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straw man is strawy but clearly have the press on your side means they have a powerful tool with which to misrepresent things. Red ed, his dad was a traitor and lots of other things. Its nor hwlpful in a democrqcy to have biased reporting as we well knwo when say Russia does this internally,Remember remember the left wings abject failire to make electoral progress is ALWAYS someone else's fault most especially the "right wing press"
you know this, you followed hacked off and the Leveson enquiry, but you seem principled enough to turn a blind eye to it for political expediency
This has zero link with Levenson. Its clear he wanted to resign and to do so in the most public way to get the most coverage for his message. LK was very happy to oblige, win-win.
This is a total non story
part of the remit of the enquiry was the closeness of the relationship between the media and politicians. It can lead to things like this.
Anyway the broader point is that the press, when they distort things and in general, have real power and what they do and what they say does affect the real world. Clearly having a press that does this , generally about the left, is not helpful and has some impact.
[Some}People really did believe ed was red and some sort of radical left winger which is patently BS as a simple example of what the constant distortions/polemics achieve.
I am not sure how anyone can argue otherwise tbh but I am sure you will try.
Leaving aside the issue of whether or not it was good journalism, it isn't bias because the BBC would cheerfully allow any politician of any big party to resign live. They see it as newsworthy.
We're centre left liberals
You're delusional. There's been nothing centre or left about the government of the U.K. for a number of decades. The only liberal thing about it has been freeing 'the markets'
Really?
Government spending as % GDP is well above the levels of a decade ago and in line with medium term average
We have a progressive tax system and even under the nasty Tories income inequality has fallen
The state provides the majority of certain services - health, education - often free at the point of delivery
Even in austerity (sic) the government continues to spend more than it receives and continues to bring forth consumption while delaying payment
The state currently manipulates the cost of borrowing and the cost of buying/selling currencies through policies that current benefit it far more than the private sector and the financially prudent (QE). The state also intervened heavily/nationalised large banks and we have an opposition talking openly about re-nationalising other parts of the economy (transport, energy)
So which part of all this falsifies the idea that we are anything other than a mixed economy with centrist politics?
You may have a point on liberal trends or lack of them - Theresa May being a prime example and she is supposed to be one of the nasty lot on the faaaaaaarrrrrrrr right according to some. Our liberty continues to be eroded consistently even by the nasty party!
I'll defend Laura Kuenssberg. The guy was going to resign. He's supposedly an intelligent person and a politician to boot. He should be quite capable of making up his own mind how and where he does that. He could have said no.
All true, but LK works for an organisation with a legal obligation to be impartial, which she clearly broke.
She better not report on any Carsdale/Farrage spats then either.
She wanted a scoop FFS, she is a journo on the up. It's part of the Icarus paradox. It will burn out of its own accord without the sensationalist accusations.
All true, but LK works for an organisation with a legal obligation to be impartial, which she clearly broke.
Nonsense, the BBC would be equally willing to let any newsworthy political drama unfold live regardless of party. Embarrassing resignations are newsworthy regardless of party.
True - she will have plenty of fun with the Tories and Europe to come
The villian, if there is one, is the MP. And all those with the twitter addiction that leads to such undignified spats on social mejia. They should grow up.
why do you keep representing an artefact of the global recession as if it was Tory policy to redistribute incomes and reduce inequality- all whilst ignoring that they cut the higher rate.We have a progressive tax system and even under the nasty Tories income inequality has fallen
ANd you have the nerve to moan about how politicians distort the facts and present them spun to the point they are both true and yet utter BS at the same time
You are AS and I claim my right to the asset that is our pound 🙄
Be the change you want to see dude.
yes what happened was they decided they want to take on the ownership of these , for political reasons, they did not bail them out at great personal cost to us all because of their profligacy and because the consequences of letting them crash would have been worse than bailing them out. they did it because they really really really wanted to nationalise the banksThe state also intervened heavily/nationalised large banks
Still at least they are regulating them more heavily now after having carefully looked at the sector and all the banks are paying us bank with shit loads of tax.
They bailed the banks out they did not suddenly start nationalising the banks - FWIW that would be "far left" policies rather than liberal mixed economy. Unless you wish to list the long list of liberal mixed economies with state controlled banking systems Facepalm
Deary me
You are correct we have a largely mixed economy but it is hard to argue its liberal As zokes notes its liberal in [not] monitoring the banks its not so liberal in freeing up the unions to strike.
Nonsense, the BBC would be equally willing to let any newsworthy political drama unfold live regardless of party. Embarrassing resignations are newsworthy regardless of party.
That may or may not be true, but in this instance they had the obligation to be impartial by, for example, giving Corbyn the opportunity to respond to the charges made. Clearly they acted partially. Whether that is part of a larger pattern is another issue (one might look at other examples of LK's work as a starting point).
Still at least they are regulating them more heavily now after having carefully looked at the sector and all the banks are paying us bank with shit loads of tax.
If only.
That may or may not be true, but in this instance they had the obligation to be impartial by, for example, giving Corbyn the opportunity to respond to the charges made.
Was that not allowed?
he was in the commons and he was unable to respond immediately but he was able to be informed by Dave
That said most journos would have done what she did, though some of us still wish the BBC was above this sort of political media manipulation stunt, and the MP is the main culprit.
That said most journos would have done what she did, though some of us still wish the BBC was above this sort of political media manipulation stunt
That doesn't excuse it, and whereas if Sky does it it is pretty deplorable, if the BBC does it it is in breach of its charter.
All true, but LK works for an organisation with a legal obligation to be impartial, which she clearly broke.
She absolutely did not. The guy wanted to quit, he could have done so live on Twitter or live on TV.
Corbyn and Labour have done an Alex Salmond and tried to divert attention from their own fsilings by complaining about the "BBC bias"
I think if you add up all the biases the BBC is accused of they probably cancel each other out and amount to balanced reporting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation
if the BBC does it it is in breach of its charter.POSTED 8 MINUTES AGO # REPORT-POST
This needs a petition! Or a hash tag!
Quick, comrades! To the [s]barricades[/s] keyboards!
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CFH its dangerous to come and play here you know.
Nick Robinson was LK's predecessor - as above former chairman of the Yoing Conservatives. I thought he made an effort to be relatively neutral and balanced most of the time. LK makes no such effort. It's really not professional or acceptable.
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CFH its dangerous to come and play here you know.
at least you are finally admitting that what you write is done for the play.
I suspected non one could be that incoherent without considerable effort.
If only.
Only what?
Banks are clearly facing a much higher regulatory burden (correctly so).
I suspected non one could be that incoherent without considerable effort.
I guess it comes easier after so much practice.
I think its the first time he has admitted he only writes things for the reaction "laughs" though