[Closed] More clever advertising that I don't understand...

TJ how do you choose your washing up liquid then?

the relevance is that you have shown your complete inability to even attempt to understand what I am saying. You continually make false assumptions abut me.

Is the root of ignore, ignorant?

Now, if we're on to etymology, that's up my alley.

The two words are intrinsically linked, it is true.

TJ's still a troll. Arguing for the sake of it, trying to provoke a reaction, even when he knows that the position he has taken is untenable. Either that, or he's an idiot. I trust it is the former.

TandemJeremy - Member
yes I shave. I have some blue disposables I bought. No idea of the brand. I also have a nice razer I was given decades ago. It takes an obsolete cartridge blade that is hard to find nowadays
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Clever aren't they?

Clever aren't they?

So you buy the blue ones?

Nope - they are the ones I bought that time. Not knowing what they are I doubt I will buy them again although they worked well. I think they may have been bought in italy but i canot remeber. I have never bought them before

NO CFH - I simply live my life in a way incomprehensible to many folk on here.

Don - just go back a mo. I said - "the shop that was convenient to me at the point I made the decision to buy" - you said expensive convenience store.

that is you making assumptions about me and what I do that are false and showing you failed to understand the basic point I was making

with that- I will bow out

I know you guys will never accept that there are people like me to who brands, marketing and advertising are almost completely irrelevant.

I have some blue disposables I bought. No idea of the brand.

So...
Assuming you like them and want to buy more, how will you know which ones to buy when they run out.
Or
Assuming you don't want to buy them again cos they rip your face to shreds, how do you know which ones NOT to buy?

you're [b]P[/b]roud of that one are you dom

So you buy the blue ones? Their marketing works then - they created a simple 'brand' with very easy to recognise packaging.
Clever aren't they?

Exactly, no cheaper to make, but made to look cheaper to give a feeling of value to those who are. Buying them.

Right so we can have two pages of you pin dancing on the question and never answering ..its obvious why you dont want to answer TJ - no one is picking diarrhoeal shit in that example not even you. That is as near as a win as anyone can get with you [refusal to answer]No matter how big the hole and how clear the example the spade will be active for the next few hours
Enjoy and night all
I'm oot

So, a basic question unanswered.

I know you guys will never accept that there are people like me to who brands, marketing and advertising are almost completely irrelevant.

You buy things. The fact that those things are available for you to buy are DIRECTLY linked to the marketing process.

That you choose to ignore that and try and claim that it is irrelevant, is rather telling. My trust, as stated in my earlier post is fast disappearing.

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Don - just go back a mo. I said - teh shop that was convenient to me - you said 0expoensive convenience store.

Junkyard - Member

Right so we can have two pages of you pin dancing on the question and never answering ..its obvious why you dont want to answer TJ - no one is picking diarrhoeal shit in that example not even you. That is as near as a win as anyone can get with you [refusal to answer]No matter how big the hole and how clear the example the spade will be active for the next few hours
Enjoy and night all
I'm oot

Junkyard - I asked two relevant questions that are information I need to give yo an answer.

answer me those two questions and I will give you my answer

Junkyard - I asked two relevant questions that are information I need to give yo an answer.

i'm gonna go buy some rapha stuff.

only cuz i'm on that webpage. by accident.

not cuz i'v been influenced or anything.

I know you guys will never accept that there are people like me to who brands, marketing and advertising are almost completely irrelevant.

This thread is not about marketing, it's about TJ's identity about being an outsider.

What other questions do yo want me to answer Don that I have not? Give me them and I will do one final post answering them ( unless junkyard gives me the info to answer his question)

Go back and read TJ.
Ignore =ignorant.

how about this one:

TJ how do you choose your washing up liquid then?

don simon - Member

Go back and read TJ.
Ignore =ignorant.

Seriously don - I do not know what other questions you want me to answer that I have not - make it simple for me.

Nope - they are the ones I bought that time. Not knowing what they are I doubt I willbuy them again.

Seriously don - I do not know what other questions you want me to answer that I have not - make it simple for me.

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There's two of your Ps right there. What will you do if the washing up liquid doesn't do a good job of removing the grease? Buy the same brand again because it's convenient? Or do something else? (That was another P just FYI).

If brands are so unimportant why did you look for a branded product here?

Is the root of ignore, ignorant?

Why do you think corner shops are on corners?

Because otherwise they'd be "shops".

I'm clevar, me.

No MF - that simply is not true. Yo are making a series of assumptions about my behavious that are false

No TJ, you used the example of a simple blue razor to show you are not effected by brand,

Wrong - I was simp.y answering the question as to wht razers I sused. I thought about it and remembered they were some blue disposables. Nothing else was implied - straight exchange of information

wrongly assuming that only describing them as 'blue' proved that you aren't influenced by marketing as you just picked up the plain ones, but there was a decision made,

wrong - making assumptions about what I did and what information I was conveying. I described them as blue as that is the only description I have of them without going and looking tey nmight be a heliy marketed one,l they might not. isimply do not now or care

either consciously or sub-consciously to chose them and you noticed the packaging enough to give them brand recognition

Wrong o I simply picked them off the shelf _ I have a suspcision they wer ethe ony ones available

- whether or not it means you will buy them won't matter to them, their packaging clearly works because even you recollected it.

Wrong. I remeber in picutres hence I remeber the colour of them

Do they perform the same function?

you enter the store whihc happens to be there when you need [b]wahsing up liquid[/b] and you enter free of any marketting
[b]You look at the products and there are only two[/b][ WASHING UP LIQUIDS ]both the same price.

Why do you say the second one is intrinsically better?

One is in a nice bright colour and tells you it is clean and and branded as [b]fresh o clean...for those unaffected by marketing and other guff...it's intrinsically better[/b]

that is the label[ i used the word brand to show even the name was marketing] - who know what it means and certainly not you as you are free of marketing...I mean you dont even recognise the font 😉

That the lot don?

There's two of your Ps right there. What will you do if the washing up liquid doesn't do a good job of removing the grease?Buy the same brand again because it's convenient? Or do something else?

(That was another P just FYI).

If brands are so unimportant why did you look for a branded product here?

Is the root of ignore, ignorant?

I have no idea - i guess so.

TJ - Ortlieb Panniers 😉

Sorry Junkyard - I don't understand your point I dont think

I assume that you are saying I have no information other then the packaging to go on to make my decision - contents identical bar colour and name - price identical?

then my choice would be purely random if I really had no information to differentiate them but its a somewhat far fetched hypothetical situation

edit - or maybe you mean this
"fresh o clean...for those unaffected by marketing and other guff...it's intrinsically better" is the name of the product / label on it?

In which case my answer remains the same - I look at the contents, I look at the price, with nothing to distinguish them my choice would be fairly random. what its called / labelled / branded as is irrelevant to me - I am interested in what it[i] is[/i]

Tiger6791 - Member

TJ - Ortlieb Panniers

right - obsessive arguing - I must stop. I can feel the banhammer

Loving the attention though isn't he, TJ of the order of Argumentative Monks? Trying to get trolls to see sense on the internet is like p***ing on badgers - fun, but ultimately pointless.

Incidentally, TJ,

You said you bought the blue razors and liked them, but if you went back you might not buy them again because you don't know what they are.

Now, I'm all for trying different products to make an informed purchasing decision. But by finding a product you like and [accidentally / deliberately] ignoring this knowledge, you're ostensibly shaving off your nose to spite your face.

It's one thing trying to ignore marketing / advertising, fair play for that, but it's another to deliberately go out of your way to avoid things you know you like. I don't really understand why you'd do that.

Apologies if I've misunderstood you here.

That the lot don?

I would not buy it again as its intrinsic qualities would have proven to be faulty

I was wanting that particular hub as it could be dismantled to provide me with a spare for another hub I have again bought for what it was.

I have no idea - i guess so.

Sorry Junkyard - I don't understand [s]your point[/s]this thread I dont think

I see TeeJ as an Argulympian that I never try and contend with. It's not so much that I think he has a specific talent to be right but that his reputation preceeds him and I know that [i]'he's not worth it[/i]... I'll never better him.

Interesting piont cougar - I would try to find some cartridges that would fit the 30 year old nice handle I was given by someone. I don't usually use disposables. I would have noted if they wer not good tho to make sure I never bought them again first disposables I have used in many years. Bought for lightness for last years trekking holiday

Just out of interest I went to look at the razers - they are a well known brand and are actually mainly green with some blue bits

Shows how much effect the marketing / branding had on me 🙂 as I didn't recollect eh name nor the colour of them

TJ - have you ever, other than by accident, bought the same product twice? - can be any purchase, ever.

you still chose them though.

i use feather and shark razors, i don't know why, they have no uk marketing that i have seen. yet i still chose them. i didn;t pick them blind, as you suggest you do. a process occurred that led to me buying them as did your choice of blade.

this process is influenced by marketing.

what does the word feather mean to you.

what does the word shark imply?

Phil =- yes

right - obsessive arguing - I must stop. I can feel the banhammer

Its getting closer *cringes*

But TeeJ... and it's a little BUT... you [i]know[/i] they're a well known brand... got to be Gillette or Wilkinson... and I don't buy razor blades at all.

Back to ignoring questions TJ?
Which energy supplier do you use? And why?
Why do you use Killfile? (That's a new question BTW).
EDIT: surely it becomes an argument when it degenerates into petty name calling and insults, no? Otherwise it's just a debate.

Phil =- yes

I assume it's fair to say that if the product was crap you wouldn't of bought it again. The fact that you didn't think the product was crap and that you made a repeat purchase means, like it or not, you were affected by marketing. It may not have been the obvious marketing activities - advertising, branding, or packaging - but it was still marketing.

It may not have been the obvious marketing activities - advertising, branding, or packaging - but it was still marketing.

Don Simon +1 this isn't an argument... you can present and have an opinion without having an argument*.

*Diet threads excluded